---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/13/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:27 AM - Carb Tuning Aide (Cpayne) 2. 05:20 AM - Re: Carb Tuning Aide (Eric Wobschall) 3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Roger Kemp M.D.) 4. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (ssssskippy) 5. 09:02 AM - Engine failure in a Yak-50 (Richard Goode) 6. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (pilko2) 7. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Scott Poehlmann) 8. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Larry Pine) 9. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (pilko2) 10. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 (Eric Wobschall) 11. 08:40 PM - Re: Engine failure in a Yak-50 (William Halverson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:12 AM PST US From: Cpayne Subject: Yak-List: Carb Tuning Aide There is some help for the aspiring carb tuner, I wrote a helpful article on the topic a few years ago and you can find it on the RPA/Store/Manuals page. It's NOT a step-by-step How-To but an explanation of how the tuning inputs work together. Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:34 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Carb Tuning Aide Craig also wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Infield Fly Rule. On Oct 13, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Cpayne wrote: > > There is some help for the aspiring carb tuner, I wrote a helpful > article on the topic a few years ago and you can find it on the RPA/ > Store/Manuals page. It's NOT a step-by-step How-To but an > explanation of how the tuning inputs work together. > > Craig Payne > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:29 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:53 AM PST US From: "ssssskippy" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 : yak-list@matronics.com Objet: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:31 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Yak-List: Engine failure in a Yak-50 He actually landed wheels-up, and I am sure that was the best way to do it since a normal landing would, I suspect, have done a lot of damage to the undercarriage mountings etc. In passing we have bought the aircraft, and are now restoring it, and I can say that the damage is remarkably little, although there is a certain amount - even wheels-up - to one of the under carriage mountings in the wing, and, of course, bottom engine cowls; oil cooler; one aileron etc etc. However it is one of the last three 50s that were made (actually for a film) after normal production had stopped. So it is low total time, all mods done, and we will restore it to "as new" condition with long-range wing tanks; 400hp; MTV-9-260 prop etc. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:16 AM PST US From: "pilko2" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De-: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9-: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0-: yak-list@matronics.com Objet-: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:11 AM PST US From: Scott Poehlmann Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 Ouch! On 10-13-2010 10:34, pilko2 wrote: > And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! > > kp > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy > Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "ssssskippy" > > It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane > seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf > > Olivier > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. > Envoy : mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 > : yak-list@matronics.com > Objet : RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Roger Kemp M.D." > --> > > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have > a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared > terrain. > Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. > The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to > do...fly the airplane first. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "keithmckinley" > --> > > thanks for sharing this! > > Nice job!!! > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 > > > List > 7-Day > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:13 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 That can be buffed out! Larry Pine --- On Wed, 10/13/10, pilko2 wrote: From: pilko2 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De-: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9-: mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0-: yak-list@matronics.com Objet-: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:40:41 AM PST US From: "pilko2" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 That's what we did...... and buffed it out to 400hp and a nice new Termikas paint job while we were at it. (I think I'll point out that I was not in the a/c when it mounted the Ford) I'm particularly attached to this aircraft as it was the first tail wheel I ever flew......... come to mention it; its the only tail dragger I've ever flown. I sure do miss it. kp _____ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Pine Sent: 13 October 2010 18:20 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 That can be buffed out! Larry Pine --- On Wed, 10/13/10, pilko2 wrote: From: pilko2 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 And there is previous "bad luck" as per this pic ! kp -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of ssssskippy Sent: 13 October 2010 15:00 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > It seems she was gear up for the belly landing, unfortunately this plane seems to have a bad luck.... http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/factor200414.pdf Olivier -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] De la part de Roger Kemp M.D. Envoy=E9 : mercredi 13 octobre 2010 15:37 =C0 : yak-list@matronics.com Objet : RE: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We can have a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft unprepared terrain. Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk letdown. The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to do...fly the airplane first. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 --> > thanks for sharing this! Nice job!!! -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 List 7-Day ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:37:49 PM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 I had heard that the main issue was the dig in, flip over, and get yourself crushed thing. But that's the 52. Is that also a worry with the 50? On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote: > > > > Question? Did he land gear up or gear down in that muddy field. We > can have > a long debate on the issue of off field gear up landing on soft > unprepared > terrain. > Me personally over in hospitable terrain, I'm opting for the silk > letdown. > The kid did a good job getting her down. He did what we're supposed to > do...fly the airplane first. > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > keithmckinley > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 7:36 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine Failure in a Yak-50 > > > > > thanks for sharing this! > > Nice job!!! > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=315497#315497 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:28 PM PST US From: "William Halverson" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine failure in a Yak-50 Hmmm .... a bit of a sales pitch, I presume? ;-) But so ... refined .... :-) I just wish I had the money to buy her! Richard now that England has Sharia law courts, can I trade my wife for your YAK-50? She is an executive chef, and a YAK can't cook! William YAK55 +-----Original Message----- +From: Richard Goode [mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com] +Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 08:58 AM +To: yak-list@matronics.com +Subject: Yak-List: Engine failure in a Yak-50 + +He actually landed wheels-up, and I am sure that was the best way to do it +since a normal landing would, I suspect, have done a lot of damage to the +undercarriage mountings etc. + + + +In passing we have bought the aircraft, and are now restoring it, and I can +say that the damage is remarkably little, although there is a certain amount +- even wheels-up - to one of the under carriage mountings in the wing, and, +of course, bottom engine cowls; oil cooler; one aileron etc etc. + + + +However it is one of the last three 50s that were made (actually for a film) +after normal production had stopped. + + + +So it is low total time, all mods done, and we will restore it to "as new" +condition with long-range wing tanks; 400hp; MTV-9-260 prop etc. + + + +Richard Goode Aerobatics +Rhodds Farm +Lyonshall +Herefordshire +HR5 3LW +United Kingdom +Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 +Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 + www.russianaeros.com + + + + ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.