---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/26/10: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (A. Dennis Savarese) 2. 04:46 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Eric Wobschall) 3. 05:10 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Roger Kemp M.D.) 4. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Richard Goode) 5. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Hans Oortman) 6. 06:11 AM - Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 (White3) 7. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 (Eric Wobschall) 8. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Eric Wobschall) 9. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening (Eric Wobschall) 10. 07:31 AM - New Pistons (George Coy) 11. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 (cjpilot710@aol.com) 12. 02:49 PM - Re: New Pistons (RiCHARD VOLKER) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:02 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening What are V450 blades? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Sara, Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for the YAK? Doc -----Original Message----- >From: Nanchang CJ6 >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > >Hello all, >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested in it,pls feel free to contact us! >Regards/Sarah > > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > >-------- >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:22 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Was curious, too... Is there a longer version? On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:37 AM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > What are V450 blades? > Dennis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Kemp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > Sara, > Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for > the YAK? > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Nanchang CJ6 > >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > > > >Hello all, > >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested > in it,pls feel free to contact us! > >Regards/Sarah > > > > > > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: > >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > > > > >-------- > >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.matronics========================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com > ">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:38 AM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Sara, Thank you. No I do not need a prop right now. I hope I'm good for a while but it is good to know there is another source for that part. Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nanchang CJ6 Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Yes,we have.Do you need it? viperdoc(at)mindspring.co wrote: > Sara, > Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for the YAK? > Doc > > -- -------- Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317052#317052 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:38 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening I assume the V-450 blade is from a Yak 50 after a partial wheels-up landing?? Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Dennis Savarese To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening What are V450 blades? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Sara, Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for the YAK? Doc -----Original Message----- >From: Nanchang CJ6 >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > >Hello all, >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested in it,pls feel free to contact us! >Regards/Sarah > > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > >-------- >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > > > > > > >http://www.matronics================== ======<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:26 AM PST US From: "Hans Oortman" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening That's what I call British humor, hi. Hans RA3326K _____ Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Richard Goode Verzonden: dinsdag 26 oktober 2010 14:31 Aan: yak-list@matronics.com Onderwerp: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening I assume the V-450 blade is from a Yak 50 after a partial wheels-up landing?? Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening What are V450 blades? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Kemp Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening Sara, Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for the YAK? Doc -----Original Message----- >From: Nanchang CJ6 >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > >Hello all, >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested in it,pls feel free to contact us! >Regards/Sarah > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > >-------- >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > >http://www.matronics========================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/ Navigator?Yak-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:31 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 From: "White3" Another picture of the terrain in the Lake District . -------- It's not a hairy cow. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317074#317074 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lake_district_174.bmp ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:29 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 Looks like one of those links-style courses they pick for the British open. On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:09 AM, White3 wrote: > > > Another picture of the terrain in the Lake District . > > -------- > It's not a hairy cow. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317074#317074 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/lake_district_174.bmp > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:29 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening V-376 give or take On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Richard Goode wrote: > I assume the V-450 blade is from a Yak 50 after a partial wheels-up > landing?? > Richard > > Richard Goode Aerobatics > Rhodds Farm > Lyonshall > Hereford > HR5 3LW > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > www.russianaeros.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A. Dennis Savarese > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > What are V450 blades? > Dennis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Kemp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > Sara, > Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for > the YAK? > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Nanchang CJ6 > >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > > > >Hello all, > >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested > in it,pls feel free to contact us! > >Regards/Sarah > > > > > > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: > >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > > > > >-------- > >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.matronics========================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com > ">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:14 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening V-376 give or take On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Richard Goode wrote: > I assume the V-450 blade is from a Yak 50 after a partial wheels-up > landing?? > Richard > > Richard Goode Aerobatics > Rhodds Farm > Lyonshall > Hereford > HR5 3LW > United Kingdom > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > www.russianaeros.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A. Dennis Savarese > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > What are V450 blades? > Dennis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Kemp > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > Sara, > Did I understand you correct? You have V450 replacement blades for > the YAK? > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Nanchang CJ6 > >Sent: Oct 25, 2010 9:35 PM > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Prop shortening > > > > > >Hello all, > >We have kinds of aircraft propellers in China.If who are interested > in it,pls feel free to contact us! > >Regards/Sarah > > > > > > > >pilko2(at)btinternet.com wrote: > >> And this is what it can look like...................... > > > > > >-------- > >Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317045#317045 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.matronics========================<; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com > ">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:36 AM PST US From: "George Coy" Subject: Yak-List: New Pistons MOTORSTAR N.A. 714 AIRPORT RD. SWANTON VT. O5488 TEL. 802-868-2822 E-MAIL george.coy@gmail.com FAX 802-868-2822 25 October 2010 Product Improvement Announcement MotorstarNA is proud to announce that we now offer the SPC pistons and rings. The SPC piston kit uses a new piston design and modern technology rings. The new pistons use a 3 ring configuration instead of the original 5 ring design. The top compression ring is a plasma molybdenum ring that produces a superior seal while reducing friction. The second ring is a tapered hook or Napier design that provides superior oil control. The oil ring is also modern design that reduces oil consumption by about 1/3. The overall result is an engine that consumes less oil, more stable operating temperatures through all operating conditions. It runs smoother at idle and it starts more easily. The factory engineer and test cell technicians were surprised at the test cell results. The engineer said of the testing, "After the breaking-in period we measured the parameters at all engine duties and the results were according to the documentation in force. After this we have set the engine at Cruise I and it worked at this duty for one hour. We did this test in order to determine the oil consumption. The result is amazing. The oil consumption at Cruise I is 510 grams per hour or 2.83 grams per HP (specific oil consumption) or 0.575 liters per hour (the density of our oil is 887 grams per liter" Typically the M14-P consumes about 0.8 liter per hour. He also said "Beside the oil consumption we observed also other improvements. The engine start is easy; the temperatures (CHT and oil temperature) are constant in time and the idle is more stable." The SPC piston kits are available in standard bore size (105 mm) and R1 first oversize (.15 mm oversize). Each kit includes a new piston, 3 fitted rings, a new piston pin, two new piston pin plugs, a new cylinder base gasket, two rocker cover gaskets, two new rubber tube for the push rod tubes new cylinder nut lock tabs and installation instructions. The new piston is 34 grams lighter than the standard piston. The SPC kit includes a new piston pin plugs that are heavier to keep the engine in balance. The standard size kit P/N 14-605-22SPC is $304.00 per kit. The oversize kit is P/N 14-605-22SPC-R1 is $328.00 per kit. There wil be an additional 5% discount on orders of 9 kits. MotorstarNA will soon have these kits in stock at our Vermont headquarters. George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy@gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 From: cjpilot710@aol.com Hell! I think I would jumped! Pappy -----Original Message----- From: White3 Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 9:09 am Subject: Yak-List: Re: Engine failure in Yak-50 Another picture of the terrain in the Lake District . -------- t's not a hairy cow. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317074#317074 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lake_district_174.bmp -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:06 PM PST US From: RiCHARD VOLKER Subject: Re: Yak-List: New Pistons How close is the piston design to those done by Monty Barrett? They sound similar. Pilots flying with the Monty Barrett overhauled M14P's have reported that engine oil remains original clean color after twenty hours at a time due to less blow-by with their three ring , closer tolerance pistons. Rick Volker Sent from my iPad On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "George Coy" wrote: > MOTORSTAR N.A. > > 714 AIRPORT RD. > > SWANTON VT. O5488 > > TEL. 802-868-2822 E-MAIL george.coy@gmail.com FAX 802-868-2822 > > > > 25 October 2010 > > Product Improvement Announcement > > > > MotorstarNA is proud to announce that we now offer the SPC pistons and rings. The SPC piston kit uses a new piston design and modern technology rings. > > The new pistons use a 3 ring configuration instead of the original 5 ring design. > > The top compression ring is a plasma molybdenum ring that produces a superior seal while reducing friction. > > The second ring is a tapered hook or Napier design that provides superior oil control. The oil ring is also modern design that reduces oil consumption by about 1/3. > > The overall result is an engine that consumes less oil, more stable operating temperatures through all operating conditions. It runs smoother at idle and it starts more easily. > > The factory engineer and test cell technicians were surprised at the test cell results. The engineer said of the testing, =9CAfter the breaking-in period we measured the parameters at all engine duties and the results were according to the documentation in force. After this we have set the engine at Cruise I and it worked at this duty for one hour. We did this test in order to determine the oil consumption. The result is amazing. The oil consumption at Cruise I is 510 grams per hour or 2.83 grams per HP (specific oil consumption) or 0.575 liters per hour (the density of our oil is 887 grams per liter=9D > > Typically the M14-P consumes about 0.8 liter per hour. > > He also said =9CBeside the oil consumption we observed also other improvements. The engine start is easy; the temperatures (CHT and oil temperature) are constant in time and the idle is more stable.=9D > > The SPC piston kits are available in standard bore size (105 mm) and R1 first oversize (.15 mm oversize). Each kit includes a new piston, 3 fitted rings, a new piston pin, two new piston pin plugs, a new cylinder base gasket, two rocker cover gaskets, two new rubber tube for the push rod tubes new cylinder nut lock tabs and installation instructions. > > The new piston is 34 grams lighter than the standard piston. The SPC kit includes a new piston pin plugs that are heavier to keep the engine in balance. > > The standard size kit P/N 14-605-22SPC is $304.00 per kit. > > The oversize kit is P/N 14-605-22SPC-R1 is $328.00 per kit. > > There wil be an additional 5% discount on orders of 9 kits. > > MotorstarNA will soon have these kits in stock at our Vermont headquarters. > > > > > > George Coy > > CAS Ltd. > > 714 Airport Rd. > > Swanton VT 05488 > > 802-868-5633 off > > 802-363-5782 cell > > george.coy@gmail.com > > http://coyafct.com/ > > SKYPE george.coy > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.