---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/26/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:36 AM - Romania (Richard Goode) 2. 08:01 AM - Re: Romania (Byron Fox) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: Romania (Byron Fox) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:20 AM PST US From: "Richard Goode" Subject: Yak-List: Romania I have just returned from Romania, visiting Aerostar, who have manufactured all Yak-52, and Motorstar, who manufacture /overhaul the M14P engine. Some issues that could be of interest: Obviously production of Yak-52 has slowed right down, but they have just delivered ten new Yak-52 to Vietnam ' price justover US $400,000 each. In terms of total numbers of Yak-52 in the world their estimates are as follows: =D8 USA 322. =D8 UK 105. =D8 Germany 55. =D8 Spain 20. =D8 Italy 15. =D8 France 15. =D8 Sweden 5. =D8 Holland / Begium 6. =D8 Australia / New Zealand 25. =D8 South Africa 15. =D8 Others circa 25. Total 608 In addition military operators are as follows: =D8 Romania 18. =D8 Hungary 11. =D8 Vietnam 31. =D8 In addition there are other military operators in Ukraine; Georgia; Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan etc. Russia: =D8 They estimate that there are about 350 flyable in Russia, and a similar number existing but not flyable. =D8 Total production is 1,815 to date. =D8 Of these the first 60 were flush-riveted. For military users, Aerostar still offers a military style TOTAL overhaul ' that is a strip down to every last component and then built to a new aircraft. Current price for this is a bit over US $200,000. (I saw two Romanian Air Force Yak-52s undergoing this process). I had thought that the major airframe strengthening Bulletins (59/60/107) on Yak-52 were issued because of cracks being seen in aircraft, rather than actual failures, but it is worth noting that there were actually two fatal accidents of Yak-52 involving total airframe failure (actually the centre section between the wings), which led to the introduction of 59 and 60 Bulletins. So if your 52 does not have 59 and 60 - fly gently! Motorstar has just delivered five engines to the Chinese, to put into their new version of the CJ6. It is interesting that they have gone to Romania for these engines ' I had assumed that the Chinese had all the production that they needed. Also I have seen in these listings, people referring to a 400hp version of the Chinese engine ' does such a thing exist? Have many been made? Motorstar continue to make a few new engines, as well as overhaul old ones. It would seem that they have good supplies of most components but it is feared that there are likely to be shortages in the long-term ' for example exhaust valves. My personal feeling is that no new parts are being made in Russia and current stocks are simply being eroded. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Romania From: Byron Fox Informative report, Richard. Thanks, Blitz Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:33 AM, "Richard Goode" wrote: > I have just returned from Romania, visiting Aerostar, who have manufacture d all Yak-52, and Motorstar, who manufacture /overhaul the M14P engine. So me issues that could be of interest: > > > > Obviously production of Yak-52 has slowed right down, but they have just d elivered ten new Yak-52 to Vietnam =93 price justover US $400,000 each . > > > > In terms of total numbers of Yak-52 in the world their estimates are as fo llows: > > > > =C3=98 USA 322. > > =C3=98 UK 105. > > =C3=98 Germany 55. > > =C3=98 Spain 20. > > =C3=98 Italy 15. > > =C3=98 France 15. > > =C3=98 Sweden 5. > > =C3=98 Holland / Begium 6. > > =C3=98 Australia / New Zealand 25. > > =C3=98 South Africa 15. > > =C3=98 Others circa 25. > > Total 608 > > > > In addition military operators are as follows: > > > > =C3=98 Romania 18. > > =C3=98 Hungary 11. > > =C3=98 Vietnam 31. > > =C3=98 In addition there are other military operators in Ukraine; Georgia ; Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan etc. > > > > Russia: > > > > =C3=98 They estimate that there are about 350 flyable in Russia, and a si milar number existing but not flyable. > > =C3=98 Total production is 1,815 to date. > > =C3=98 Of these the first 60 were flush-riveted. > > > > For military users, Aerostar still offers a military style TOTAL overhaul =93 that is a strip down to every last component and then built to a new a ircraft. Current price for this is a bit over US $200,000. (I saw two Rom anian Air Force Yak-52s undergoing this process). > > > > I had thought that the major airframe strengthening Bulletins (59/60/107) o n Yak-52 were issued because of cracks being seen in aircraft, rather than a ctual failures, but it is worth noting that there were actually two fatal ac cidents of Yak-52 involving total airframe failure (actually the centre sect ion between the wings), which led to the introduction of 59 and 60 Bulletins . So if your 52 does not have 59 and 60 - fly gently! > > > > Motorstar has just delivered five engines to the Chinese, to put into thei r new version of the CJ6. It is interesting that they have gone to Romania f or these engines =93 I had assumed that the Chinese had all the produc tion that they needed. Also I have seen in these listings, people referring to a 400hp version of the Chinese engine =93 does such a thing exist? Have many been made? > > > > Motorstar continue to make a few new engines, as well as overhaul old ones . It would seem that they have good supplies of most components but it is f eared that there are likely to be shortages in the long-term =93 for e xample exhaust valves. My personal feeling is that no new parts are being m ade in Russia and current stocks are simply being eroded. > > > > Richard Goode Aerobatics > > Rhodds Farm > > Lyonshall > > Herefordshire > > HR5 3LW > > United Kingdom > > > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > > www.russianaeros.com > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Romania From: Byron Fox Richard, would you suppose the 332 Yak 52s reported to be in the US would al so include Canada? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:33 AM, "Richard Goode" wrote: > I have just returned from Romania, visiting Aerostar, who have manufacture d all Yak-52, and Motorstar, who manufacture /overhaul the M14P engine. So me issues that could be of interest: > > > > Obviously production of Yak-52 has slowed right down, but they have just d elivered ten new Yak-52 to Vietnam =93 price justover US $400,000 each . > > > > In terms of total numbers of Yak-52 in the world their estimates are as fo llows: > > > > =C3=98 USA 322. > > =C3=98 UK 105. > > =C3=98 Germany 55. > > =C3=98 Spain 20. > > =C3=98 Italy 15. > > =C3=98 France 15. > > =C3=98 Sweden 5. > > =C3=98 Holland / Begium 6. > > =C3=98 Australia / New Zealand 25. > > =C3=98 South Africa 15. > > =C3=98 Others circa 25. > > Total 608 > > > > In addition military operators are as follows: > > > > =C3=98 Romania 18. > > =C3=98 Hungary 11. > > =C3=98 Vietnam 31. > > =C3=98 In addition there are other military operators in Ukraine; Georgia ; Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan etc. > > > > Russia: > > > > =C3=98 They estimate that there are about 350 flyable in Russia, and a si milar number existing but not flyable. > > =C3=98 Total production is 1,815 to date. > > =C3=98 Of these the first 60 were flush-riveted. > > > > For military users, Aerostar still offers a military style TOTAL overhaul =93 that is a strip down to every last component and then built to a new a ircraft. Current price for this is a bit over US $200,000. (I saw two Rom anian Air Force Yak-52s undergoing this process). > > > > I had thought that the major airframe strengthening Bulletins (59/60/107) o n Yak-52 were issued because of cracks being seen in aircraft, rather than a ctual failures, but it is worth noting that there were actually two fatal ac cidents of Yak-52 involving total airframe failure (actually the centre sect ion between the wings), which led to the introduction of 59 and 60 Bulletins . So if your 52 does not have 59 and 60 - fly gently! > > > > Motorstar has just delivered five engines to the Chinese, to put into thei r new version of the CJ6. It is interesting that they have gone to Romania f or these engines =93 I had assumed that the Chinese had all the produc tion that they needed. Also I have seen in these listings, people referring to a 400hp version of the Chinese engine =93 does such a thing exist? Have many been made? > > > > Motorstar continue to make a few new engines, as well as overhaul old ones . It would seem that they have good supplies of most components but it is f eared that there are likely to be shortages in the long-term =93 for e xample exhaust valves. My personal feeling is that no new parts are being m ade in Russia and current stocks are simply being eroded. > > > > Richard Goode Aerobatics > > Rhodds Farm > > Lyonshall > > Herefordshire > > HR5 3LW > > United Kingdom > > > > Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 > > Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 > > www.russianaeros.com > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.