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1. 12:45 AM - Yak 18T stitching (Anthony Hudacek)
2. 01:13 AM - Re: Yak 18T stitching (Didier BLOUZARD)
3. 01:13 AM - Re: Yak 18T stitching (Didier BLOUZARD)
4. 07:40 PM - Large Yak-50 wood model (Tim Gagnon)
5. 09:51 PM - Re: 18T issues (Eric Wobschall)
6. 10:27 PM - Re: 18T issues (Roger Baker)
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| Subject: | Yak 18T stitching |
Thanks for all the help and great pics. Just wondering if the wings are sti
tched in the same way?
-
Anthony.=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 18T stitching |
It is definitely the same technique.
Only for applying this technique you have to put the wing in a support that a
llow to rotate the wing from one side to the other because your needle have t
o go from one side to the other and you have to make a knot on each side for
safety.
On my airport we have a training course for certifying people for covering p
lanes and the course is around 2 to 4 days.
You certainly have the same in the US for covering with ceconite and it wort
h it.
Best regards
Didier Blouzard
+33 6 2424 3672
Le 11 d=C3=A9c. 2010 =C3- 09:40, Anthony Hudacek <antdea2000@yahoo.com.au>
a =C3=A9crit :
> Thanks for all the help and great pics. Just wondering if the wings are st
itched in the same way?
>
> Anthony.
>
>
> <P1010006 (7).JPG>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak 18T stitching |
Post Scriptum : what a beauty
Didier Blouzard
+33 6 2424 3672
Le 11 d=C3=A9c. 2010 =C3- 09:40, Anthony Hudacek <antdea2000@yahoo.com.au>
a =C3=A9crit :
> Thanks for all the help and great pics. Just wondering if the wings are st
itched in the same way?
>
> Anthony.
>
>
> <P1010006 (7).JPG>
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| Subject: | Large Yak-50 wood model |
I had two of these made. One that represented my -50 as it was and the other as
I had planned on painting it. Sold the airplane before paint and don't need the
model.
17 inch wingspan and 13 inches long. Nice model! If there is a -50 owner there
who is looking to get a model of their airplane, you could take this to a modeler
and have it redone.
http://thumb9.webshots.net/t/83/183/3/43/97/2226343970077747909UmZZhz_th.jpg
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323008#323008
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Didier:
It took a while, but here are some pics of the engine compartment
heater I improvised. I think I'm going to make a similar one to blow
on the oil cooler.
-Eric
On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Didier Blouzard wrote:
> yeahh would be interested in seeing.
>
> Many thanks if you can post a pic
>
> regards
>
> Didier
>
> 2010/9/16 Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
> >
>
> Hey, I noticed that farm equipment places have heating pads in all
> shapes and sizes. Shockingly cheap, and apparently sourced the same
> as the aviation ones.
>
> I use a Harbor Fright (Halloween coming up) fan driven disc heater
> with some HVAC items cobbled in such a way that it's funneled into
> the left side of the cowl. I close the gills and usually plug the
> left side with some foam. I have it mounted on an old tripod so it
> can be properly positioned. Heats everything except the oil cooler,
> which doesn't seem to b3 a problem with the Phillips 25-60. I live
> near Buffalo, NY. I'll try to post a picture sometime.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry
> Point, MALS-14 64E wrote:
>
> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Honestly Olivier, I can't even begin to remember! I got those heating
> pads 10 years ago (and they still work by the way).
>
> I think I just went to their web site and talked to their sales agent.
> I have one that has two pads. In other words, it has one power cord,
> that controls TWO heating pads. Both of those are on the bottom of
> the
> oil tank itself.
>
> Then I have another one that is stuck on the lower sump.
>
> I do not have one on the oil cooler, as Dennis recommended, BUT .... I
> have a very unique oil cooler in my YAK-50. It has a thermostat
> bypass,
> so that when the weather is cold, the oil cooler is BY-PASSED.
>
> When it comes to these aircraft, I would listen carefully to anything
> Dennis recommends.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:07 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>
> You may also want to seriously consider a separate heat pad for the
> oil
> cooler. Highly recommended!
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Olivier Vigneron <mailto:ssssskippy@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Wich e-zheat model do you use for a M14P?
>
> Thanks
>
> Olivier
>
>
> 2010/9/16 Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>
> Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>
> In addition it is not a good idea to directly heat oil
> with a heating
> "element". There are all kinds of articles on that
> issue discussing
> moisture and condensation, oil breakdown and other
> "issues". The old
> "stick a heated dipstick into the oil" trick was
> apparently not the best
> way to go. Indirectly heated oil systems, like Doc
> mentioned
> http://e-zheat.com/ are widely used on aircraft
> operating in cold
> weather. They usually attach to an oil pan, or oil
> tank
> simply by
> glueing them on. You do have to remove any paint first
> of course, but
> mine have NEVER come off. The heating element ends up
> heating the whole
> metal tank and distributes the heat evenly. They
> include a thermostat
> and are made for both 110 and 220 VAC.
>
> I've seen them on M-14's, C-180's and a whole slew of
> bush airplanes.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
> Of Jan Mevis
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:57 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: 18T issues
>
> Don't put things INTO the tank. If the resistor blows
> up, then you have
> a BIG problem, because you'll scatter small particles
> everywhere into
> the oil.
>
>
> Only my 2 cents,
>
>
> Jan
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
> Of Didier
> Blouzard
> Sent: woensdag 15 september 2010 9:04
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>
>
> Richard,
>
> thanks so much for your very interesting answer.
>
> For the TEL...I will just give 100LL to my motor
> every 5
> fill.
>
> In fact as we can't find 98unleaded in every field I
> will have to fill
> the plane with 100LL from time to time.
>
> But I want to keep an eye on the filters and the plugs
> for tracking
> records every 20 hours.
>
> For the preoiling pump you are right KISS (keep it safe
> and simple) is
> the best way to do it. A simple electric pump with the
> good hoses and
> the work id done. I will try to do something that can
> heat the oil in
> the same time. Perhaps heting the oil directly into the
> tank with a
> resistor...??
>
> Anyway, thanks so much for your kind answer
>
> Didier BLOUZARD
>
>
> 2010/9/15 Richard Goode
> <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
>
> The M14P has very good quality steel valve seats, and
> the Russians say
> that no additional help from lead is needed.
>
>
> But, I see no harm in adding lead - a good idea to give
> it 100ll
> whenever you can.
>
>
> You can buy a lead product (TEL) for historic cars in
> the UK.
>
>
> It is not that expensive - 130 Euro for enough to treat
> a thousand
> litres - and you do not need to put in nearly as much
> as
> they suggest,
> since they are using it mainly for the Octane enhancer.
>
>
> There is no 50-hour check - but my own view is it is
> prudent to look
> over the engine every 50-hours, particularly if it is
> not often used.
>
>
> The only way to clean the fuel filters is
> ultrasonically.
>
>
> For the undercarriage oleos, you either get an
> engineering shop to make
> up connectors, OR convert them to a conventional
> automotive Schraeder
> valve.
>
>
> I think pre-oiling is a very good idea, and all you
> need
> is a separate
> supply from the oil tank through to a high pressure
> electric pump, going
> into one of the oil galleries, which then will
> circulate
> oil around the
> engine before starting. But I do not think that anyone
> makes a kit as
> such.
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>
> Rhodds Farm
>
> Lyonshall
>
> Herefordshire
>
> HR5 3LW
>
> United Kingdom
>
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
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Now, that is cool....er, hot, actually.
Roger____________________________
On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Eric Wobschall wrote:
> Didier:
>
> It took a while, but here are some pics of the engine compartment
heater I improvised. I think I'm going to make a similar one to blow on
the oil cooler.
>
> -Eric
>
> <heater1.jpg><heater2.jpg><heater3.jpg><heater4.jpg><heater5.jpg>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Didier Blouzard wrote:
>
>> yeahh would be interested in seeing.
>>
>> Many thanks if you can post a pic
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Didier
>>
>> 2010/9/16 Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
<eric@buffaloskyline.com>
>>
>> Hey, I noticed that farm equipment places have heating pads in all
shapes and sizes. Shockingly cheap, and apparently sourced the same as
the aviation ones.
>>
>> I use a Harbor Fright (Halloween coming up) fan driven disc heater
with some HVAC items cobbled in such a way that it's funneled into the
left side of the cowl. I close the gills and usually plug the left side
with some foam. I have it mounted on an old tripod so it can be properly
positioned. Heats everything except the oil cooler, which doesn't seem
to b3 a problem with the Phillips 25-60. I live near Buffalo, NY. I'll
try to post a picture sometime.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
>>
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> Honestly Olivier, I can't even begin to remember! I got those
heating
>> pads 10 years ago (and they still work by the way).
>>
>> I think I just went to their web site and talked to their sales
agent.
>> I have one that has two pads. In other words, it has one power cord,
>> that controls TWO heating pads. Both of those are on the bottom of
the
>> oil tank itself.
>>
>> Then I have another one that is stuck on the lower sump.
>>
>> I do not have one on the oil cooler, as Dennis recommended, BUT ....
I
>> have a very unique oil cooler in my YAK-50. It has a thermostat
bypass,
>> so that when the weather is cold, the oil cooler is BY-PASSED.
>>
>> When it comes to these aircraft, I would listen carefully to anything
>> Dennis recommends.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
>> Savarese
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:07 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>>
>> You may also want to seriously consider a separate heat pad for the
oil
>> cooler. Highly recommended!
>> Dennis
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Olivier Vigneron <mailto:ssssskippy@gmail.com>
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> Wich e-zheat model do you use for a M14P?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/16 Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
>> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>>
CIV
>> Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>>
>>
>> In addition it is not a good idea to directly heat oil
>> with a heating
>> "element". There are all kinds of articles on that
>> issue discussing
>> moisture and condensation, oil breakdown and other
>> "issues". The old
>> "stick a heated dipstick into the oil" trick was
>> apparently not the best
>> way to go. Indirectly heated oil systems, like Doc
>> mentioned
>> http://e-zheat.com/ are widely used on aircraft
>> operating in cold
>> weather. They usually attach to an oil pan, or oil
tank
>> simply by
>> glueing them on. You do have to remove any paint
first
>> of course, but
>> mine have NEVER come off. The heating element ends up
>> heating the whole
>> metal tank and distributes the heat evenly. They
>> include a thermostat
>> and are made for both 110 and 220 VAC.
>>
>> I've seen them on M-14's, C-180's and a whole slew of
>> bush airplanes.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jan Mevis
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:57 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Yak-List: 18T issues
>>
>> Don't put things INTO the tank. If the resistor blows
>> up, then you have
>> a BIG problem, because you'll scatter small particles
>> everywhere into
>> the oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> Only my 2 cents,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
>> Of Didier
>> Blouzard
>> Sent: woensdag 15 september 2010 9:04
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: 18T issues
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> thanks so much for your very interesting answer.
>>
>> For the TEL...I will just give 100LL to my motor every
5
>> fill.
>>
>> In fact as we can't find 98unleaded in every field I
>> will have to fill
>> the plane with 100LL from time to time.
>>
>> But I want to keep an eye on the filters and the plugs
>> for tracking
>> records every 20 hours.
>>
>> For the preoiling pump you are right KISS (keep it
safe
>> and simple) is
>> the best way to do it. A simple electric pump with the
>> good hoses and
>> the work id done. I will try to do something that can
>> heat the oil in
>> the same time. Perhaps heting the oil directly into
the
>> tank with a
>> resistor...??
>>
>> Anyway, thanks so much for your kind answer
>>
>> Didier BLOUZARD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/9/15 Richard Goode
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> The M14P has very good quality steel valve seats, and
>> the Russians say
>> that no additional help from lead is needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> But, I see no harm in adding lead - a good idea to
give
>> it 100ll
>> whenever you can.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can buy a lead product (TEL) for historic cars in
>> the UK.
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not that expensive - 130 Euro for enough to
treat
>> a thousand
>> litres - and you do not need to put in nearly as much
as
>> they suggest,
>> since they are using it mainly for the Octane
enhancer.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is no 50-hour check - but my own view is it is
>> prudent to look
>> over the engine every 50-hours, particularly if it is
>> not often used.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only way to clean the fuel filters is
>> ultrasonically.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the undercarriage oleos, you either get an
>> engineering shop to make
>> up connectors, OR convert them to a conventional
>> automotive Schraeder
>> valve.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think pre-oiling is a very good idea, and all you
need
>> is a separate
>> supply from the oil tank through to a high pressure
>> electric pump, going
>> into one of the oil galleries, which then will
circulate
>> oil around the
>> engine before starting. But I do not think that
anyone
>> makes a kit as
>> such.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>
>> Rhodds Farm
>>
>> Lyonshall
>>
>> Herefordshire
>>
>> HR5 3LW
>>
>> United Kingdom
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> didier.blouzard@gmail.com
>> 0624243672
>>
>>
>>
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