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Mon 12/13/10


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 02:46 AM - YAK55M modifications (Jacques Bodart)
     2. 03:14 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Richard Goode)
     3. 05:27 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Cliff Coy)
     4. 06:08 AM - Re: lubricating the air system search (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     5. 07:25 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Kregg Victory)
     6. 08:12 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     7. 08:53 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Cliff Coy)
     8. 09:43 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (William Halverson)
     9. 11:17 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Roger Kemp M.D.)
    10. 11:41 AM - Re: YAK55M modifications (doug sapp)
    11. 05:41 PM - Re: YAK55M modifications (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:46:37 AM PST US
    Subject: YAK55M modifications
    From: Jacques Bodart <jacques.bodart@gmail.com>
    Dear YAK friends, I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? Another questions: I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? Many thanks for the infos Happy loopings Jacques Bodart Belgium


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    Time: 03:14:44 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    I suspect that your undercarriage has slightly bent which will reduce the clearace a bit. There should be no problem to fly with a 250 prop. You can remove the gear and reset it to restore the correct hight. Richard Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacques Bodart To: Yak-List Digest List Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Dear YAK friends, I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? Another questions: I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? Many thanks for the infos Happy loopings Jacques Bodart Belgium -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 05:27:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com>
    *Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. Please contact me off list. Cheers! Cliff* ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jacques Bodart <jacques.bodart@gmail.com> > *To:* Yak-List Digest List <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM > *Subject:* Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > Dear YAK friends, > > I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in > Europe. > > With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question > is: > > I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with > bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase > the lenght of the gear; > so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling > this modification? > > Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian > brakes & wheels? > > Another questions: > > I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new > ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std > gear. > > Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? > > Many thanks for the infos > > Happy loopings > > Jacques Bodart > Belgium > > > ** > > -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy


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    Time: 06:08:37 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: lubricating the air system search
    Thanks Cliff. Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search I use Royco #43 Pneumatic system grease. I believe MolyKote 55M is compitabile as well. Cheers, Cliff On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 23:13, Roger Kemp M.D. <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote: I have used your 30/70% formula in the air bottles for 4 years now. Seems to work well. Approaching time now to pull the actuators and grease them. What weight grease are ya=99ll using on the seals? Doc From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search Cliff is spot on, glycerin is a humectant (attracts water) and so is alcohol. I have posted about this in the past. I have used glycerin mixed 30% with alcohol (70%) in the past and it seems to work well. Doug On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com> wrote: OK....I'll throw my hat into this ring. The Yakovlev pneumatic system is a *greased* system, not an oiled one. The assemblies and valves are to be dis-assembled and re-greased every 500hrs or 5 years (whichever occurs first). There has been many a witches brew suggested to inject into the system- ie. air tool oil. This has the effect of washing the grease out of the system. Washing the grease out of the flap and gear selectors puts the two rotating plates in direct contact causing scoring and ..... leakage. The 90% alcohol / Glycerin mix injected into the air bottles is to glom onto the engine oil and water that makes it past the filter to reduce the incidence of corrosion. If you're operating in high humidity areas, then I'd change the alcohol/ glycerin mix and regrease the system more often. Just my $0.02 Cliff On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 14:16, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> TRUE! Never thought of it that way! -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kregg Victory Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 14:09 Subject: RE: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search <kregg@balancemyprop.com> Good Point Mark, However one advantage of the Yak list is that is can be good for business.....LOL Kregg Victory Aero LLC 2502 John Montgomery Dr. San Jose, CA 95148 408-836-5122 www.balancemyprop.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 11:00 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> What I think of that (since you asked) is that you need to be very very careful of what you add to Russian pneumatic systems. My first exposure to the YAK List about a decade or so again was when I read about putting all manner of things into the pneumatic system to prevent rust in actuators. I did exactly as was suggested. The next thing that happened is that the Chevron Seals in my YAK-50 landing gear actuators actually dissolved. By the grace of God I managed to get the gear down with the emergency system. I then wrote my first long article on how to go about pulling the landing gear actuators and replacing the seals in a YAK-50. I did not follow any manuals like Doug Sapp is recommending. Instead I followed the advice given on the Yak List. In this particular case, that advice turned out to be less than good. Be careful of what you add to Russian pneumatic systems. WHAT you add and HOW MUCH you add. What is "good stuff" for preventing rust, can sometimes be BAD JU-JU for rubber seals. Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rick@rvairshows.com Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 13:22 Subject: Re: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search It has been suggested to clean the air bottle and put some acf50 or similar rust preventative in. What do you think of that? Rick VOLKER Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com> Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: lubricating the air system search Bill, The CJ Tech Spec manual goes into detail about how much oil to ad= d and where it should be added. -I am not close to my books now or would = look it up for you. A word of caution. -Do not s= quirt oil into the filter on the compressor, you are just flushing junk int= o the compressor and you will end up gumming up the poppet valve. Also, do not over do the amount of oil you add to the s= ystem. -Keeping the system DRY is of equal or greater importance than kee= ping it oiled. -Check your manuals and add the-recommended-amount of = oil or oil and-glycerin-mix. - Many of the actuators which I have been-getting-in = to overhaul or as exchanges for new units have little or no grease left in = them because it has all been washed out by the addition of light weight oil= s to the pneumatic system. -Without grease to lubricate the locking balls= and the 0 rings the actuator will self-destruct in a very short time. Best, Doug = On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Bill1200 <billdykes52@gmail.com> wrote: <billdykes52@gmail= .com <mailto:billdykes52@gmail=%20.com> > I've tried several searches looking for discussion regarding pros and c= ons of adding a lubricant to the air system and get hundreds of topics, but= none related to what I'm looking for. Any suggestions on how to word t= he search appreciated Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D322843#322843<= /a> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D"_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target=3D"_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et=3D"_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com =3D"_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D rget=3D"_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://forums.matronics.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ~, g b'=DE=AEky'ql/=D7=9D Irqyizr=C3=AEy=DF=A2{ nr f e Support Your Lists This Month -- target="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ldersbooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com " target="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -Matt Dralle, List Admin. target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. 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    Time: 07:25:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    From: Kregg Victory <kregg@balancemyprop.com>
    You can also check you main gear "toe" alignment. I have seen some 55's with toe out which will result in spreading the gear, making for reduced prop clearance Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote: >I suspect that your undercarriage has slightly bent which will reduce the clearace a bit. >There should be no problem to fly with a 250 prop. >You can remove the gear and reset it to restore the correct hight. >Richard > >Richard Goode Aerobatics >Rhodds Farm >Lyonshall >Hereford >HR5 3LW >United Kingdom > >Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 >Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 >www.russianaeros.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jacques Bodart > To: Yak-List Digest List > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM > Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > > Dear YAK friends, > > I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. > > With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: > > I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; > so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? > > Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? > > Another questions: > > I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. > > Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? > > Many thanks for the infos > > Happy loopings > > Jacques Bodart > Belgium > > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean.


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    Time: 08:12:32 AM PST US
    Subject: YAK55M modifications
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Cliff, this is an interesting question. My YAK-50 was converted to Cleveland wheels AND brakes (hydraulic) when it was down in Texas after it first arrived in the U.S. in the early 90's. I can take pictures of mine, but I was wondering if you have a standard kit? It would seem that what would work on a 55, might also work on any other single seat YAK, or possibly the 52, although that would be a REAL pain if dual brakes was an option. Point being, a lot of folks have wanted to duplicate my Hyd Brake and Cleveland wheel setups and I have not really been able to help them other than to send pictures. You have a KIT? Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. Please contact me off list. Cheers! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacques Bodart <mailto:jacques.bodart@gmail.com> To: Yak-List Digest List <mailto:yak-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Dear YAK friends, I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? Another questions: I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? Many thanks for the infos Happy loopings Jacques Bodart Belgium -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy


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    Time: 08:53:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com>
    *Mark, George developed a Hydraulic wheels and brake conversion kit and service bulletin to install Cleveland wheels and brakes into the Yak-52 (see attached). We haven't received a lot of demand for this conversion. As such, we didn't make a production run of the lower axle forgings. The one-off price was pretty steep. To make it reasonable, we'd need to do at least five sets. The rest of the kit is off-the-shelf items. Give George a shout for more info. Cheers! Cliff * On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Cliff, this is an interesting question. > > My YAK-50 was converted to Cleveland wheels AND brakes (hydraulic) when > it was down in Texas after it first arrived in the U.S. in the early > 90's. I can take pictures of mine, but I was wondering if you have a > standard kit? It would seem that what would work on a 55, might also > work on any other single seat YAK, or possibly the 52, although that > would be a REAL pain if dual brakes was an option. > > Point being, a lot of folks have wanted to duplicate my Hyd Brake and > Cleveland wheel setups and I have not really been able to help them > other than to send pictures. You have a KIT? > > Mark Bitterlich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:25 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com; George Coy > Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several > Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. > > Please contact me off list. > > Cheers! > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jacques Bodart <mailto:jacques.bodart@gmail.com> > To: Yak-List Digest List > <mailto:yak-list-digest@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM > Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > Dear YAK friends, > > I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 > 250 prop here in Europe. > > With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite > small so my question is: > > I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes > or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear > extension to increase the lenght of the gear; > so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody > doing or selling this modification? > > Do you gain some weight with this modification compare > to the std russian brakes & wheels? > > Another questions: > > I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a > SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still > with the std gear. > > Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? > > Many thanks for the infos > > Happy loopings > > Jacques Bodart > Belgium > > > -- > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > > -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy


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    Time: 09:43:46 AM PST US
    From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    As well as my YAK-55 +-----Original Message----- +From: Cliff Coy [mailto:cliff.coy@gmail.com] +Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 05:24 AM +To: yak-list@matronics.com, 'George Coy' +Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications + +*Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several Yak-55M +to Cleveland Wheels. + +Please contact me off list. + +Cheers! +Cliff* + +----- Original Message ----- + +> *From:* Jacques Bodart <jacques.bodart@gmail.com> +> *To:* Yak-List Digest List <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> +> *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM +> *Subject:* Yak-List: YAK55M modifications +> +> Dear YAK friends, +> +> I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in +> Europe. +> +> With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question +> is: +> +> I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with +> bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase +> the lenght of the gear; +> so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling +> this modification? +> +> Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian +> brakes & wheels? +> +> Another questions: +> +> I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new +> ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std +> gear. +> +> Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? +> +> Many thanks for the infos +> +> Happy loopings +> +> Jacques Bodart +> Belgium +> +> +> +> ** +> +> + + +-- +Clifford Coy +Border Air Ltd. +629 Airport Rd. +Swanton, VT 05488 +802-868-2822 TEL +802-868-4465 FAX +Skype: Cliff.Coy +


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    Time: 11:17:15 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: YAK55M modifications
    Cliff, How steep is pretty steep? I'm interested in doing this on my 50 and my 52. Doc Kemp From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Mark, George developed a Hydraulic wheels and brake conversion kit and service bulletin to install Cleveland wheels and brakes into the Yak-52 (see attached). We haven't received a lot of demand for this conversion. As such, we didn't make a production run of the lower axle forgings. The one-off price was pretty steep. To make it reasonable, we'd need to do at least five sets. The rest of the kit is off-the-shelf items. Give George a shout for more info. Cheers! Cliff On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Cliff, this is an interesting question. My YAK-50 was converted to Cleveland wheels AND brakes (hydraulic) when it was down in Texas after it first arrived in the U.S. in the early 90's. I can take pictures of mine, but I was wondering if you have a standard kit? It would seem that what would work on a 55, might also work on any other single seat YAK, or possibly the 52, although that would be a REAL pain if dual brakes was an option. Point being, a lot of folks have wanted to duplicate my Hyd Brake and Cleveland wheel setups and I have not really been able to help them other than to send pictures. You have a KIT? Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. Please contact me off list. Cheers! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacques Bodart <mailto:jacques.bodart@gmail.com> To: Yak-List Digest List <mailto:yak-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Dear YAK friends, I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? Another questions: I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? Many thanks for the infos Happy loopings Jacques Bodart Belgium -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy ======================= ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy


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    Time: 11:41:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: YAK55M modifications
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    I converted my first CJ to Clevelands, and yes it is spendy especially if you go with new Double puck Cleveland wheels and brakes rather than used. I had over 3K invested in mine not counting my time. If anyone is looking I do know where there is a set of CJ Clevelands with lower legs (were put on in Texas) which the customer took off and went back to pneumatics. Best, Doug On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. <viperdoc@mindspring.com>wrote: > Cliff, > > How steep is pretty steep? I=92m interested in doing this on my 50 and my 52. > > > Doc Kemp > > > *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Cliff Coy > *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2010 10:46 AM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > > *Mark, > > George developed a Hydraulic wheels and brake conversion kit and service > bulletin to install Cleveland wheels and brakes into the Yak-52 (see > attached). > > We haven't received a lot of demand for this conversion. > As such, we didn't make a production run of the lower axle forgings. The > one-off price was pretty steep. > To make it reasonable, we'd need to do at least five sets. > The rest of the kit is off-the-shelf items. > > Give George a shout for more info. > > Cheers! > Cliff > > * > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, > MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Cliff, this is an interesting question. > > My YAK-50 was converted to Cleveland wheels AND brakes (hydraulic) when > it was down in Texas after it first arrived in the U.S. in the early > 90's. I can take pictures of mine, but I was wondering if you have a > standard kit? It would seem that what would work on a 55, might also > work on any other single seat YAK, or possibly the 52, although that > would be a REAL pain if dual brakes was an option. > > Point being, a lot of folks have wanted to duplicate my Hyd Brake and > Cleveland wheel setups and I have not really been able to help them > other than to send pictures. You have a KIT? > > Mark Bitterlich > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:25 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com; George Coy > Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several > Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. > > Please contact me off list. > > Cheers! > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jacques Bodart <mailto:jacques.bodart@gmail.com> > To: Yak-List Digest List > > <mailto:yak-list-digest@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM > Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications > > Dear YAK friends, > > I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 > 250 prop here in Europe. > > With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite > small so my question is: > > I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes > or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear > extension to increase the lenght of the gear; > so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody > doing or selling this modification? > > Do you gain some weight with this modification compare > to the std russian brakes & wheels? > > Another questions: > > I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a > SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still > with the std gear. > > Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? > > Many thanks for the infos > > Happy loopings > > Jacques Bodart > Belgium > > > -- > > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > > > ======================= > ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com > ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > le, List Admin. > ========== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > > > -- > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > > * > =========== =========== =========== ============* > >


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    Time: 05:41:44 PM PST US
    Subject: YAK55M modifications
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Will do, and THANK you for your time! Mark ________________________________ yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Cliff Coy Sent: Mon 12/13/2010 11:46 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Mark, George developed a Hydraulic wheels and brake conversion kit and service bulletin to install Cleveland wheels and brakes into the Yak-52 (see attached). We haven't received a lot of demand for this conversion. As such, we didn't make a production run of the lower axle forgings. The one-off price was pretty steep. To make it reasonable, we'd need to do at least five sets. The rest of the kit is off-the-shelf items. Give George a shout for more info. Cheers! Cliff On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:08, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: Cliff, this is an interesting question. My YAK-50 was converted to Cleveland wheels AND brakes (hydraulic) when it was down in Texas after it first arrived in the U.S. in the early 90's. I can take pictures of mine, but I was wondering if you have a standard kit? It would seem that what would work on a 55, might also work on any other single seat YAK, or possibly the 52, although that would be a REAL pain if dual brakes was an option. Point being, a lot of folks have wanted to duplicate my Hyd Brake and Cleveland wheel setups and I have not really been able to help them other than to send pictures. You have a KIT? Mark Bitterlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Coy Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:25 AM To: yak-list@matronics.com; George Coy Subject: Re: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Landing gear disposition notwithstanding, we have converted several Yak-55M to Cleveland Wheels. Please contact me off list. Cheers! Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacques Bodart <mailto:jacques.bodart@gmail.com> To: Yak-List Digest List <mailto:yak-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Yak-List: YAK55M modifications Dear YAK friends, I just bought a few months ago a YAK55M with a MT V 9 250 prop here in Europe. With this prop the clearance with the ground is quite small so my question is: I have seen a few 55 with Cleveland wheels and brakes or Matco with bigger wheels (500-6 or 600-6) and also landing gear extension to increase the lenght of the gear; so who can give me a contact of a company or somebody doing or selling this modification? Do you gain some weight with this modification compare to the std russian brakes & wheels? Another questions: I have seen some russian YAK55M partly modified like a SP55M ;new ailerons,elevator & rudder turtle deck & fairings but still with the std gear. Is it possible to get this parts ailerons etc...? Many thanks for the infos Happy loopings Jacques Bodart Belgium -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy ======================= ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. ========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy




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