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1. 02:39 AM - Yak 18T Parts (Anthony Hudacek)
2. 03:09 AM - RF interference (Scott Poehlmann)
3. 04:07 AM - Re: RF interference (Eric Wobschall)
4. 04:11 AM - Re: RF interference (Hans Oortman)
5. 05:34 AM - Re: RF interference (A Dennis Savarese)
6. 05:45 AM - Re: Yak 18T Parts (A Dennis Savarese)
7. 06:51 AM - Chinese L-7 (George Coy)
8. 07:09 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Didier Blouzard)
9. 07:11 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Eric Wobschall)
10. 07:28 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (George Coy)
11. 08:14 AM - Marvel Mystery Oil (Thomas Smith)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: Marvel Mystery Oil (A Dennis Savarese)
13. 08:25 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Tom Elliott)
14. 08:35 AM - Weight & Balance (Thomas Smith)
15. 08:43 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
16. 08:52 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (RICHARD VOLKER)
17. 08:58 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Richard Goode)
18. 09:25 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
19. 09:44 AM - Re: Chinese L-7 (George Coy)
20. 10:39 AM - Re: RF interference (Roger Kemp M.D.)
21. 01:58 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (keithmckinley)
22. 03:05 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (LawnDart)
23. 03:24 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Eric Wobschall)
24. 04:07 PM - Yak 18T parts (Anthony Hudacek)
25. 06:59 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Matt Dralle)
26. 07:51 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
27. 08:36 PM - Re: Chinese L-7 (Eric Wobschall)
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Hi all,
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Does anyone have an air connection-cover for my 18T. Also are the other Y
ak's the same?
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Thank you,
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Ant.=0A=0A=0A
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Hi All,
I am aware this has been discussed before, but as the problem now
effects my own airplane, I have am a bit more attentive...
I have a Yak 55M with an auto-plug conversion. The conversion has been
in place for about 3 years now (roughly 400 hours). I am now getting RF
interference picked up in the Briz radio from the mags/plug wires. At
least I assume that is the source, as it is RPM dependent. It has been
present since installation, but has been gradually getting worse over
the past year or so. I assume that there is a shielding issue either at
the mag connection or along the wires somewhere. My question to you is
where should I start to look at trouble shooting this issue, and how do
I go about fixing it (shy of completely replacing the plug wires, which
I'd prefer not to do... But will do if need be...)?
Any thoughts you might have on the matter would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK
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Subject: | Re: RF interference |
Could the tach generator be an issue?
Also wondering if the dielectric properties of the plug wires are
changing due to long term heat exposure.
On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Scott Poehlmann wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am aware this has been discussed before, but as the problem now
> effects my own airplane, I have am a bit more attentive...
>
> I have a Yak 55M with an auto-plug conversion. The conversion has
> been in place for about 3 years now (roughly 400 hours). I am now
> getting RF interference picked up in the Briz radio from the mags/
> plug wires. At least I assume that is the source, as it is RPM
> dependent. It has been present since installation, but has been
> gradually getting worse over the past year or so. I assume that
> there is a shielding issue either at the mag connection or along the
> wires somewhere. My question to you is where should I start to look
> at trouble shooting this issue, and how do I go about fixing it (shy
> of completely replacing the plug wires, which I'd prefer not to
> do... But will do if need be...)?
>
> Any thoughts you might have on the matter would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Poehlmann
> Yak 55M N155YK
>
>
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Scott,
This is one of the most difficult things to find/resolve.
A couple of possibilities:
How did you determine it is RF interference, i.e. is it picked up by the
antenna or via the power line?? Is the interference opening the squelch?
This can easily be checked by disconnecting the antenna and connecting a
small 50 Ohm dummyload.
If it is picked up by the antenna it will be a real problem to resolve
(assuming all the shielding of the plugs wiring etc is OK), not to say
almost impossible without redesigning the radio w.r.t. grounding, internal
decoupling etc.
If it is picked up on the power leads it is easier to prevent by using a
filter in the powerline. Ask Dennis for contact details of a company, I
think in Texas, who makes those filters suitable for use in aeroplanes.
The interesting thing y're saying however is "it got worse over time" if
that is the case I would check the shielding of the RPM-generator first. If,
over time, the shielding has been damaged you can be sure it will generate a
lot of noise on the radio which increases or decreases with the rpm.
Hope this will help you a little.
Hans Oortman
RA3326K
Netherlands
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Scott Poehlmann
Verzonden: donderdag 16 december 2010 12:07
Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Yak-List: RF interference
Hi All,
I am aware this has been discussed before, but as the problem now
effects my own airplane, I have am a bit more attentive...
I have a Yak 55M with an auto-plug conversion. The conversion has been
in place for about 3 years now (roughly 400 hours). I am now getting RF
interference picked up in the Briz radio from the mags/plug wires. At
least I assume that is the source, as it is RPM dependent. It has been
present since installation, but has been gradually getting worse over
the past year or so. I assume that there is a shielding issue either at
the mag connection or along the wires somewhere. My question to you is
where should I start to look at trouble shooting this issue, and how do
I go about fixing it (shy of completely replacing the plug wires, which
I'd prefer not to do... But will do if need be...)?
Any thoughts you might have on the matter would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK
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Subject: | Re: RF interference |
We have installed these magneto filters on the P-leads
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/lsMagFilter.php, mounting
them on one of the studs of the round accessory case cover. They have
worked quite well and are easily installed by removing the P lead and
de-soldering the shield and wire from the P-lead "button", installing a
terminal lung on the P lead wire and connecting it to the mag filter.
Then install a terminal lug on the mag filter wire and soldering it to
the P-lead button.
For additional noise attenuation, we have also installed this noise
filter directly on the DC line to the affected unit.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/lsStrobeNoiseEl.php.
There are larger noise filters with higher current ratings that could be
used on the DC bus.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/lonestarFilter70amp.php.
Dennis
On 12/16/2010 6:09 AM, Hans Oortman wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Hans Oortman"<pa3arw@euronet.nl>
>
> Scott,
>
> This is one of the most difficult things to find/resolve.
> A couple of possibilities:
> How did you determine it is RF interference, i.e. is it picked up by the
> antenna or via the power line?? Is the interference opening the squelch?
> This can easily be checked by disconnecting the antenna and connecting a
> small 50 Ohm dummyload.
> If it is picked up by the antenna it will be a real problem to resolve
> (assuming all the shielding of the plugs wiring etc is OK), not to say
> almost impossible without redesigning the radio w.r.t. grounding, internal
> decoupling etc.
>
> If it is picked up on the power leads it is easier to prevent by using a
> filter in the powerline. Ask Dennis for contact details of a company, I
> think in Texas, who makes those filters suitable for use in aeroplanes.
>
> The interesting thing y're saying however is "it got worse over time" if
> that is the case I would check the shielding of the RPM-generator first. If,
> over time, the shielding has been damaged you can be sure it will generate a
> lot of noise on the radio which increases or decreases with the rpm.
>
> Hope this will help you a little.
>
> Hans Oortman
> RA3326K
> Netherlands
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Scott Poehlmann
> Verzonden: donderdag 16 december 2010 12:07
> Aan: yak-list@matronics.com
> Onderwerp: Yak-List: RF interference
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Scott Poehlmann<scott-p@texas.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am aware this has been discussed before, but as the problem now
> effects my own airplane, I have am a bit more attentive...
>
> I have a Yak 55M with an auto-plug conversion. The conversion has been
> in place for about 3 years now (roughly 400 hours). I am now getting RF
> interference picked up in the Briz radio from the mags/plug wires. At
> least I assume that is the source, as it is RPM dependent. It has been
> present since installation, but has been gradually getting worse over
> the past year or so. I assume that there is a shielding issue either at
> the mag connection or along the wires somewhere. My question to you is
> where should I start to look at trouble shooting this issue, and how do
> I go about fixing it (shy of completely replacing the plug wires, which
> I'd prefer not to do... But will do if need be...)?
>
> Any thoughts you might have on the matter would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Poehlmann
> Yak 55M N155YK
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Yak 18T Parts |
Ant,
You can make your life a lot simpler regarding the external air fill
port by installing a Schrader valve fitting
(http://www.mcmaster.com/#schrader-valves/6ydc), part number
8063K31, on the cover. Remove the valve core because it is not
needed. It's a 1/8 NPT Schrader valve fitting. Drill and tap the
center of the cover plate. Put a small amount of epoxy around the
threads when installing the Schrader valve to prevent leaks. Then you
can use a simple Schrader valve coupler attached to the hose going to an
air tank,
http://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=SK2043C, and
you'll never have to find a Russian adapter again.
By installing the Schrader valve fitting on the cover, you can still
remove the cover and use a Russian fitting.
Hope this helps.
Dennis
On 12/16/2010 4:36 AM, Anthony Hudacek wrote:
> Hi all,
> Does anyone have an air connection cover for my 18T. Also are the
> other Yak's the same?
> Thank you,
> Ant.
>
>
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The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
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WHAT A PLANE
WHAT A PLANE
What about its performances?
And not to come back on thi but what about the price (eh eh) :400000USD?
best of all
regards
Didier
2010/12/16 George Coy <george.coy@gmail.com>
> The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
> version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
>
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Didier BLOUZARD
didier.blouzard@gmail.com
0624243672
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That does look cool. 152? Typo, right?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, George Coy wrote:
> The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a
> Chinese version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT
> propeller.
> <L7 airplane.jpg>
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No the -152 is a later version of the -52
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
That does look cool. 152? Typo, right?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, George Coy wrote:
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
<L7 airplane.jpg>
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Subject: | Marvel Mystery Oil |
Does anyone have a recommendation concerning use of Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel,
not the oil, of a Yak 52? It is reported to work well in Lycoming engines
to help prevent valve sticking.
thomas_csmith@yahoo.com
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Subject: | Re: Marvel Mystery Oil |
I mixed 6 oz for every 15 gallons and used it for years and years. If
I'm not mistaken, it's the stated mixture amount on the label.
Interpolate when topping off the tanks. And it does work well and does
seem to prevent sticking valves.
Dennis
On 12/16/2010 10:11 AM, Thomas Smith wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Thomas Smith<thomas_csmith@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation concerning use of Marvel Mystery Oil in the
fuel, not the oil, of a Yak 52? It is reported to work well in Lycoming engines
to help prevent valve sticking.
>
> thomas_csmith@yahoo.com
>
>
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Looks like it is equipped with ejection seats?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:41 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
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Subject: | Weight & Balance |
Our Yak 52 has a weight and balance that says one would be out of the aerobatic
envelope if one person is flying from the front seat with full fuel. Can this
be right?
Other concerns about our current weight & balance:
1) There are 49 pounds difference between the Left Main and Right Main weights.
Is this normal? Seems like a lot to me.
2) Are the forward and aft limits quoted, 15% MAC and 25% MAC, correct?
3) The conversions from MAC to inches is stated as -6.77 to -12.91 inches (aft
of the datum which is frame No. 5, the main spar attachment) for normal category
and -6.77 to -9.36 inches for aerobatic category. Are these conversions done
correctly?
4) Why was it weighed with 29 lbs weight on radio rack behind rear seat? Is this
the correct way to weight a Yak 52?
Also, does anyone have any advice on how to do a new weight and balance?
thomas_csmith@yahoo.com
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The JAK-152 is equipped with zero zero seats. Suspect the knock off L-7 will
be too.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
Looks like it is equipped with ejection seats?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:41 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
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very attractive, like a cross between an SU29 and a Yak 52. I can't
wait to see more pics. Do you have any?
Rick Volker
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, George Coy wrote:
> The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
> <L7 airplane.jpg>
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It is not a knock-off.Yakovlev have been very much involved with
design!!
Richard
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Kemp M.D.
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The JAK-152 is equipped with zero zero seats. Suspect the knock off
L-7 will be too.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:21 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
Looks like it is equipped with ejection seats?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:41 AM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a
Chinese version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT
propeller.
www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.comhttp://www.
matronics.com/contributionhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-Listhttp
://forums.matronics.com
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>From looking at the wings, it has a CJ-6 nose gear.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD VOLKER
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
very attractive, like a cross between an SU29 and a Yak 52. I can't wait to
see more pics. Do you have any?
Rick Volker
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, George Coy wrote:
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
<L7 airplane.jpg>
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As Richard pointed out, The design was done by Yakovlev design bureau and
yes it has ejection seats.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D.
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The JAK-152 is equipped with zero zero seats. Suspect the knock off L-7 will
be too.
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
Looks like it is equipped with ejection seats?
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
702-595-2680
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:41 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese
version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
www.aeroelectric.com
www.buildersbooks.com
www.homebuilthelp.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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Check the shielding on your Tac Generator. That is the most likely source
for RPM related noise.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Poehlmann
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:07 AM
Subject: Yak-List: RF interference
Hi All,
I am aware this has been discussed before, but as the problem now
effects my own airplane, I have am a bit more attentive...
I have a Yak 55M with an auto-plug conversion. The conversion has been
in place for about 3 years now (roughly 400 hours). I am now getting RF
interference picked up in the Briz radio from the mags/plug wires. At
least I assume that is the source, as it is RPM dependent. It has been
present since installation, but has been gradually getting worse over
the past year or so. I assume that there is a shielding issue either at
the mag connection or along the wires somewhere. My question to you is
where should I start to look at trouble shooting this issue, and how do
I go about fixing it (shy of completely replacing the plug wires, which
I'd prefer not to do... But will do if need be...)?
Any thoughts you might have on the matter would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott Poehlmann
Yak 55M N155YK
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Dear Santa.................
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323606#323606
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Another Chinese original [Wink]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323613#323613
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How about those Liberace inspired exhaust stacks?
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:41 AM, George Coy wrote:
> The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a
> Chinese version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT
> propeller.
> <L7 airplane.jpg>
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Thanks Dennis,
-
But it is the actual cover plate that I am after.
-
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How much is one of these beautys? That is super sweet.
Matt
At 09:13 AM 12/16/2010 Thursday, you wrote:
>As Richard pointed out, The design was done by Yakovlev design bureau and yes
it has ejection seats.
>
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D.
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:40 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
>
>The JAK-152 is equipped with zero zero seats. Suspect the knock off L-7 will be
too.
>Doc
>
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:21 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
>
>Looks like it is equipped with ejection seats?
>
>Tom Elliott
>CJ-6A NX63727
>702-595-2680
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Boy she has a little bit of everything in her.
Looks like she may have plain flaps.
She may not have ejection seat but what can be called extraction seats.
When activated, a small charge extends a telescoping pole out high enough
to clear the tail. The chute is than deployed and than fully opens. At
which point it pulls the pilot out of the seat, up the pole, and freed of
f the end of it. I think I read that system was certified for inverted fl
ight down to 200'.
The nose gear fork does not look like a casting but formed plate.
The wings have a lot of dihedral (compared to a 52) maybe 3 to 5 degrees
and is something other than a Clark Y. Looking at the tip airfoil, it lo
oks like a 4422 and I think the root area looks like a 2300 series. I can
be wrong.
The landing gear looks like she'll be fully retracted, but looks puny to
me. It does have a lot of shock tube showing though.
Can't tell but the flight controls may be all medal - at least the rudder
appears so. You sure tell by the vertical stab its got a lot Russian in
it.
Boy I love to see this up close. I don't care for the side opening canopy
( I like to fly with mine open a lot). Bet she'll make a great trainer.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: George Coy <george.coy@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 9:41 am
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a Chinese ver
sion of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT propeller.
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http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_152.php
On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:49 PM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote:
>
> Boy she has a little bit of everything in her.
>
> Looks like she may have plain flaps.
>
> She may not have ejection seat but what can be called extraction
> seats. When activated, a small charge extends a telescoping pole
> out high enough to clear the tail. The chute is than deployed and
> than fully opens. At which point it pulls the pilot out of the
> seat, up the pole, and freed off the end of it. I think I read that
> system was certified for inverted flight down to 200'.
>
> The nose gear fork does not look like a casting but formed plate.
>
> The wings have a lot of dihedral (compared to a 52) maybe 3 to 5
> degrees and is something other than a Clark Y. Looking at the tip
> airfoil, it looks like a 4422 and I think the root area looks like a
> 2300 series. I can be wrong.
> The landing gear looks like she'll be fully retracted, but looks
> puny to me. It does have a lot of shock tube showing though.
>
> Can't tell but the flight controls may be all medal - at least the
> rudder appears so. You sure tell by the vertical stab its got a lot
> Russian in it.
>
> Boy I love to see this up close. I don't care for the side opening
> canopy ( I like to fly with mine open a lot). Bet she'll make a
> great trainer.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Coy <george.coy@gmail.com>
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 9:41 am
> Subject: Yak-List: Chinese L-7
>
> The new Chinese L-7 prototype is getting ready to fly. It is a
> Chinese version of the Yak-152. It has a Romanian M`14P and an MT
> propeller.
>
>
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