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1. 09:26 AM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock)
2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (kingcj6@aol.com)
3. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (rick@rvairshows.com)
4. 10:18 AM - Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? (Pete Fowler)
5. 10:51 AM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock)
6. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (Paul Hamlin)
7. 05:26 PM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock)
8. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (Roger Kemp M.D.)
9. 06:44 PM - Re: Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? (James Partington)
10. 07:29 PM - Auto Spark Plug Conversion (Okanogan Lew)
11. 08:24 PM - Re: Auto Spark Plug Conversion (A. Dennis Savarese)
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50 is
the absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I just
use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260, Panzel,
I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect for
the -50.
Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is limiting
the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)-
Happy fighting, err, flying!
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(909) 606-4444
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
Barry - I suspect a backseater wiith a .45 Thompson in a CJ would even the
odds...but wait, a -50 doesn't have a back seat!
Dave
Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is
imiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)-
Happy fighting, err, flying!
Barry
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From: barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 7, 2011 9:26 am
Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs
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Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50
is
he absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I
ust use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260,
anzel, I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect
for
he -50.
Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is
imiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)-
Happy fighting, err, flying!
Barry
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arry Hancock
orldwide Warbirds, Inc.
909) 606-4444
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
I wonder what the Yak 50 could do against a range of even higher performance aircraft
than you have mentioned , such as a SU 26 or MXS or even an Edge 540.
Any one have any experience with these three?
Rick Volker
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Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs
Sent: Jan 7, 2011 12:23 PM
Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50 is
the absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I just
use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260, Panzel,
I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect for
the -50.
Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is limiting
the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)-
Happy fighting, err, flying!
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(909) 606-4444
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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Subject: | Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? |
I've tried all the usual suspects with no luck.
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
Hi Rick,
Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircraft bleeds
energy much faster than the -50 wing. The result is a higher sustained
G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy much quicker,
etc. Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably higher, but that advantage
is quickly lost to a lower energy state. This is why the modern aerobatic
aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the -50 is the most highly coveted
dogfighter around....
Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics,
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(909) 606-4444
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
You still have to fly it.
--- On Fri, 1/7/11, barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:
From: barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs
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Hi Rick,
Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircra
ft bleeds energy much faster than the -50 wing.- The result is a higher s
ustained G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy mu
ch quicker, etc.- Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably h
igher, but that advantage is quickly lost to a lower energy state.- This
is why the modern aerobatic aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the -
50 is the most highly coveted dogfighter around....
Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics,
Barry
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(909) 606-4444
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
Umm.....ready left.
You are right, the drawing board is of little consequence when the fight is on....but
my real world observation and experience is that the -50 is without peer
and will make even an average guy an above average threat against anything other
than another -50.
I'm done...
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(909) 606-4444
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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Subject: | Re: In defense of CJs |
Yep. 120 Klicks in the vertical un loaded on it's back turning inside it's a
ss. Thrust vectoring eat your heart out. Now, that's nose authority.
Doc
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On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Paul Hamlin <ph451@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You still have to fly it.
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> --- On Fri, 1/7/11, barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:
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> From: barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 6:48 PM
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> Hi Rick,
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> Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircr
aft bleeds energy much faster than the -50 wing. The result is a higher sus
tained G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy much q
uicker, etc. Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably higher, b
ut that advantage is quickly lost to a lower energy state. This is why the m
odern aerobatic aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the -50 is the mos
t highly coveted dogfighter around....
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> Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics,
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> Barry
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Subject: | Re: Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? |
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Subject: | Auto Spark Plug Conversion |
Guys, I just completed installing the auto plug conversion on my CJ 6 using the
NGK BR6HS plugs. I have noticed an increase in EGT temp of 100-150 degree's
Fahrenheit during my usual cruise & leaning. It's running around 1300-1325 F.
Is that range acceptable for the Housai engine? Also, is the increase because
of better combustion of the NGK plug? The cylinder head temp is seems normal.
Has anyone else had this kind of EGT increase? Is there a NGK plug with
a colder heat range? The engine does run smoother with only a 50 RPM difference
in the mag check whereas before the conversion it would be 200 RPM or so.
Thanks in advance.
Paul
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Subject: | Re: Auto Spark Plug Conversion |
BR7's are one heat range colder. You most likely will not see the same operational
efficiency with colder plugs. Particularly with the RPM drop and quick starting.
I've also see folks run BR8's. An even colder plug. Even less
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On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:26 PM, "Okanogan Lew" <vplewis@community.org> wrote:
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> Guys, I just completed installing the auto plug conversion on my CJ 6 using the
NGK BR6HS plugs. I have noticed an increase in EGT temp of 100-150 degree's
Fahrenheit during my usual cruise & leaning. It's running around 1300-1325
F. Is that range acceptable for the Housai engine? Also, is the increase because
of better combustion of the NGK plug? The cylinder head temp is seems normal.
Has anyone else had this kind of EGT increase? Is there a NGK plug with
a colder heat range? The engine does run smoother with only a 50 RPM difference
in the mag check whereas before the conversion it would be 200 RPM or so.
Thanks in advance.
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