---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/07/11: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:26 AM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock) 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (kingcj6@aol.com) 3. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (rick@rvairshows.com) 4. 10:18 AM - Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? (Pete Fowler) 5. 10:51 AM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock) 6. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (Paul Hamlin) 7. 05:26 PM - Re: In defense of CJs (barryhancock) 8. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: In defense of CJs (Roger Kemp M.D.) 9. 06:44 PM - Re: Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? (James Partington) 10. 07:29 PM - Auto Spark Plug Conversion (Okanogan Lew) 11. 08:24 PM - Re: Auto Spark Plug Conversion (A. Dennis Savarese) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:17 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: "barryhancock" Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50 is the absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I just use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260, Panzel, I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect for the -50. Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is limiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)- Happy fighting, err, flying! Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325910#325910 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: kingcj6@aol.com Barry - I suspect a backseater wiith a .45 Thompson in a CJ would even the odds...but wait, a -50 doesn't have a back seat! Dave Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is imiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)- Happy fighting, err, flying! Barry -----Original Message----- From: barryhancock Sent: Fri, Jan 7, 2011 9:26 am Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs com> Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50 is he absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I ust use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260, anzel, I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect for he -50. Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is imiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)- Happy fighting, err, flying! Barry -------- arry Hancock orldwide Warbirds, Inc. 909) 606-4444 ww.worldwidewarbirds.com ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325910#325910 -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: rick@rvairshows.com I wonder what the Yak 50 could do against a range of even higher performance aircraft than you have mentioned , such as a SU 26 or MXS or even an Edge 540. Any one have any experience with these three? Rick Volker ------Original Message------ From: barryhancock Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: yak-list@matronics.com Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs Sent: Jan 7, 2011 12:23 PM Just to take what Mark was saying about the -50 a step further. The Yak-50 is the absolute, unequivocal king of the hill for piston aircraft in BFM (did I just use that acronym out loud?!?). Planes like the Extra, Marchetti SF260, Panzel, I-3/E-3, etc. have all tried, and walked away with new found respect for the -50. Pappy, the only way a CJ stands a chance in a neutral fight with a -50 is limiting the -50 to below 70% power, gear out, and one mag off... ;)- Happy fighting, err, flying! Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325910#325910 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:25 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? From: "Pete Fowler" I've tried all the usual suspects with no luck. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325920#325920 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:24 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: "barryhancock" Hi Rick, Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircraft bleeds energy much faster than the -50 wing. The result is a higher sustained G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy much quicker, etc. Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably higher, but that advantage is quickly lost to a lower energy state. This is why the modern aerobatic aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the -50 is the most highly coveted dogfighter around.... Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics, Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325923#325923 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:49 PM PST US From: Paul Hamlin Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs You still have to fly it. --- On Fri, 1/7/11, barryhancock wrote: From: barryhancock Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs com> Hi Rick, Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircra ft bleeds energy much faster than the -50 wing.- The result is a higher s ustained G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy mu ch quicker, etc.- Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably h igher, but that advantage is quickly lost to a lower energy state.- This is why the modern aerobatic aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the - 50 is the most highly coveted dogfighter around.... Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics, Barry -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325923#325923 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:26 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: "barryhancock" Umm.....ready left. You are right, the drawing board is of little consequence when the fight is on....but my real world observation and experience is that the -50 is without peer and will make even an average guy an above average threat against anything other than another -50. I'm done... -------- Barry Hancock Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. (909) 606-4444 www.worldwidewarbirds.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325950#325950 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Yep. 120 Klicks in the vertical un loaded on it's back turning inside it's a ss. Thrust vectoring eat your heart out. Now, that's nose authority. Doc Sent from my iPad On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Paul Hamlin wrote: > You still have to fly it. > > --- On Fri, 1/7/11, barryhancock wrote: > > From: barryhancock > Subject: Yak-List: Re: In defense of CJs > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 6:48 PM > .com> > > Hi Rick, > > Yes, Su26, Panzel, etc., the symmetrical airfoil of modern aerobatic aircr aft bleeds energy much faster than the -50 wing. The result is a higher sus tained G for the -50, a higher potential energy state, recovers energy much q uicker, etc. Initial turn rate for the modern aircraft is probably higher, b ut that advantage is quickly lost to a lower energy state. This is why the m odern aerobatic aircraft are well, aerobatic aircraft and the -50 is the mos t highly coveted dogfighter around.... > > Happy aggressive cooperative aerobatics, > > Barry > > -------- > Barry Hancock > Worldwide Warbirds, Inc. > (909) 606-4444 > www.worldwidewarbirds.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.phpwww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-L ist" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.============ ============http://forums.msp; - List Con tribution Web Sbsp; > http > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:28 PM PST US From: James Partington Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know where I can find a Housai exhaust valve guide? doug sapp=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Pete Fowle r =0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, January 7, 2011 12:15:58 PM=0ASubject: Yak-List: Anyone know where I can find a Housai fdesign1@cox.net>=0A=0AI've tried all the usual suspects with no luck.=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:11 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Auto Spark Plug Conversion From: "Okanogan Lew" Guys, I just completed installing the auto plug conversion on my CJ 6 using the NGK BR6HS plugs. I have noticed an increase in EGT temp of 100-150 degree's Fahrenheit during my usual cruise & leaning. It's running around 1300-1325 F. Is that range acceptable for the Housai engine? Also, is the increase because of better combustion of the NGK plug? The cylinder head temp is seems normal. Has anyone else had this kind of EGT increase? Is there a NGK plug with a colder heat range? The engine does run smoother with only a 50 RPM difference in the mag check whereas before the conversion it would be 200 RPM or so. Thanks in advance. Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325966#325966 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:05 PM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Auto Spark Plug Conversion BR7's are one heat range colder. You most likely will not see the same operational efficiency with colder plugs. Particularly with the RPM drop and quick starting. I've also see folks run BR8's. An even colder plug. Even less Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:26 PM, "Okanogan Lew" wrote: > > Guys, I just completed installing the auto plug conversion on my CJ 6 using the NGK BR6HS plugs. I have noticed an increase in EGT temp of 100-150 degree's Fahrenheit during my usual cruise & leaning. It's running around 1300-1325 F. Is that range acceptable for the Housai engine? Also, is the increase because of better combustion of the NGK plug? The cylinder head temp is seems normal. Has anyone else had this kind of EGT increase? Is there a NGK plug with a colder heat range? The engine does run smoother with only a 50 RPM difference in the mag check whereas before the conversion it would be 200 RPM or so. Thanks in advance. > > Paul > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=325966#325966 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.