---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/15/11: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:38 AM - Re: Gordon Witter (Dave \) 2. 05:15 AM - Gordon Witter (Jill Gernetzke) 3. 05:37 AM - Re: Gordon Witter (A. Dennis Savarese) 4. 06:34 AM - Yak 55M for sale (racemech11) 5. 07:12 AM - M-14pf oil pressure (CsprJM@aol.com) 6. 07:35 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Eric Wobschall) 7. 07:36 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Richard.Goode) 8. 07:44 AM - Re: Gordon Witter (Roger Kemp M.D.) 9. 07:54 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (CsprJM@aol.com) 10. 07:56 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Roger Kemp M.D.) 11. 08:05 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Eric Wobschall) 12. 08:06 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Eric Wobschall) 13. 08:50 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Kregg Victory) 14. 09:44 AM - Re: M-14pf oil pressure (Roger Kemp M.D.) 15. 06:10 PM - SITREP (cjpilot710@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:45 AM PST US From: "Dave \"Goatboy\" Jester" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gordon Witter he will be missed. Lord take your servant and keep him safe. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Baker Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Yak-List: Gordon Witter Sad news all. Gordon Witter died about 21:00 Pacific time tonight (Jan. 14, 2011). An exceptional man and a good friend. Of course, no details of svcs yet. I will advise. Roger Baker ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:39 AM PST US From: "Jill Gernetzke" Subject: Yak-List: Gordon Witter The passing of a true quality individual. We are very saddened by his passing and our sympathy goes out to his family and many friends. Jill & Carl Hays ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:18 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gordon Witter My deepest condolences to the family Roger. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 1/14/2011 11:51 PM, Roger Baker wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Roger Baker > > Sad news all. Gordon Witter died about 21:00 Pacific time tonight (Jan. 14, 2011). An exceptional man and a good friend. > > Of course, no details of svcs yet. I will advise. > > Roger Baker > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:14 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Yak 55M for sale From: "racemech11" It is that time, the air machine is looking for a new home. We have a Yak 55M with about 600 hours. It has Cleveland wheels and brakes, B&C alternator, big air tank, auto plug conversion, MT three blade prop, KT 76A transponder. Will come with fresh condition inspection. Any questions, please contact me either email or cell phone. Chip Woods 901-634-5151 email - racemech11@aol.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327093#327093 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:03 AM PST US From: CsprJM@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. From time to time I get no oil pressure on start. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil down the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure after about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccurs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. The oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any ideas? John Casper ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:42 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure Check for hose flappers (a piece of rubber that peeled off and got in the way when the fitting was installed). I had a similar problem with my fuel system with confusing symptoms... tried everything else... turned out to be that. Obviously many other possibilities, though. Which type of airplane? On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, CsprJM@aol.com wrote: > I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. =46rom time to time I get no oil pressure on start. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil down the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure after about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccurs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. The oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any ideas? John Casper > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:21 AM PST US From: "Richard.Goode" Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure No oil pressure on start does mean that you will ruin your engine before long!! Have you checked that oil is getting to your pump in the first place?Simply undo the hose to the pump. Is the rotating mechanism in the tank free and falling to the lowest part? Is there some obstruction in the tank? We once found 9 oil container tops there,with similar results. Are the hoses to the pump clear? Ir the oil "pocket" clear? Ir the entry valve to the pump stuck/[I've nevr heard of this but it is a possiblity]. Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com I'm currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160. ----- Original Message ----- From: CsprJM@aol.com To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:39 PM Subject: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. From time to time I get no oil pressure on start. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil down the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure after about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccurs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. The oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any ideas? John Casper -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Gordon Witter From: "Roger Kemp M.D." As members of the RPA, we all have benefited from his volunteerism to the betterment of this community. His passing will leave a huge void. We will miss him. Please convey the RPA's and my condolences to his family. May God bless them and support them in their time of sorrow. Doc Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Roger Baker wrote: > > Sad news all. Gordon Witter died about 21:00 Pacific time tonight (Jan. 14, 2011). An exceptional man and a good friend. > > Of course, no details of svcs yet. I will advise. > > Roger Baker > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:20 AM PST US From: CsprJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure yak52tw ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure From: "Roger Kemp M.D." What is your OAT at the time you are starting your engine and this occurs. I have this a couple of times when the temp was near freezing. Doc Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, CsprJM@aol.com wrote: > I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. =46rom time to time I get no oil pressure on st art. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil d own the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure a fter about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccu rs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. T he oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any i deas? John Casper > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:05 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure This seems like either an obstruction, or possibly air is being sucked into the oil system. Wait a couple of hours... many guys on here who have been through all of this before. On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:51 AM, CsprJM@aol.com wrote: > yak52tw > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:52 AM PST US From: Eric Wobschall Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure Right, Doc. And which oil? Speaking of which, starting the engine when below 41 degrees F is not recommended. On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote: > What is your OAT at the time you are starting your engine and this occurs. I have this a couple of times when the temp was near freezing. > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, CsprJM@aol.com wrote: > >> I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. =46rom time to time I get no oil pressure on start. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil down the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure after about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccurs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. The oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any ideas? John Casper >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure From: Kregg Victory Have you checked to see if your coarse oil screen is installed correctly? Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G "Richard.Goode" wrote: >No oil pressure on start does mean that you will ruin your engine before long!! >Have you checked that oil is getting to your pump in the first place?Simply undo the hose to the pump. >Is the rotating mechanism in the tank free and falling to the lowest part? >Is there some obstruction in the tank? We once found 9 oil container tops there,with similar results. >Are the hoses to the pump clear? >Ir the oil "pocket" clear? >Ir the entry valve to the pump stuck/[I've nevr heard of this but it is a possiblity]. >Richard Goode Aerobatics >Rhodds Farm >Lyonshall >Hereford >HR5 3LW >United Kingdom > >Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 >Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 >www.russianaeros.com >I'm currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is +94 779 132 160. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: CsprJM@aol.com > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:39 PM > Subject: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure > > > I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring problem. Nobody can figure it out. From time to time I get no oil pressure on start. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil down the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure after about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccurs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. The oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any ideas? John Casper > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14pf oil pressure From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Without pre warming the engine and oil tank correct? I saw my incident with t emp at 44. Shut down immediately and let plane sit in mid day sun for awhile . Then started her without incident. If this current trend continues down her in the south may have to install pr e heater pads. Doc Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Eric Wobschall wrote : > Right, Doc. And which oil? > > Speaking of which, starting the engine when below 41 degrees F is not reco mmended. > > > On Jan 15, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Roger Kemp M.D. wrote: > >> What is your OAT at the time you are starting your engine and this occurs . I have this a couple of times when the temp was near freezing. >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jan 15, 2011, at 9:09 AM, CsprJM@aol.com wrote: >> >>> I am new to this list but many who are on it know of my recurring proble m. Nobody can figure it out. =46rom time to time I get no oil pressure on s tart. It appears that the oil pump is cavitated. If I pour a quart of oil d own the tube on the top of the engine and try the start I get oil pressure a fter about 15 seconds. No problems after that until the ugly problem reoccu rs. I have pulled and inspected the oil pump twice and it is in good shape. The cockpit gages are o.k. I have replaced all oil lines under suction. T he oil tank has been pulled and inspected. Does anybody out there have any i deas? John Casper >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:35 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: SITREP From: cjpilot710@aol.com In my 54 year as a professional aviator, you get to meet a lot of =9Cprofessionals=9D. They are guys like me who just follow the rule s, make few mistakes, and make smooth landings. Amongst that group are th ose rare folks who show the leadership and foresight of our profession. They show the =9Cpros=9D how it=99s done. =9CBuz zard=9D was one of those rare few who could really fly, pick your =9Cperfect=9D lazy 8 apart with the right panache that you sti ll felt you had chance to be like him. A gentleman with balls. Heaven is what ever God needs it to be for you. Buzzard will still be showing the pros how to use their new wings. Vaya con Dios Gordon. 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