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1. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: GT YAK blades (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: GT YAK blades (Eric Wobschall)
3. 11:44 AM - Customer Service Example (Cpayne)
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| Subject: | Re: GT YAK blades |
I recently installed a set of Whirlwind blades on a Yak 52. The
aircraft owner paid $6K USD for them. I'll be installing another set on
another Yak 52 in a couple of weeks along with Whirlwind's new spinner,
which looks a lot like the big spinner on the MTV-9 prop. I believe the
Whirlwind spinner is $1.5K and fits the V530 hub regardless of whether
the the blades are Whirlwind, GT or the original Russian paddle blades.
Speaking of Russian blades, if anyone is interested in a pair of Russian
blades which were removed from the Yak 52 with the Whirlwind blades,
contact me off list at dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net. Have them at a good
price.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 1/24/2011 11:23 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Chris Wise"<wise@txc.net.au>
>
> G'Day Eric,
>
> Glad to hear that.
> Are you running a set of GT Blades? And if so, how do you find them?
> I would be interested to know the price of the Whirlwind blades.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2011 11:32 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Eric Wobschall<eric@buffaloskyline.com>
>
> I can facilitate blade purchases here in the USA. Contact me off list.
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Chris Wise"<wise@txc.net.au>
>>
>> G'Day Craig,
>>
>> I have found that whilst there is a slight com problem with Alex from GT
> props in Italy, with a little bit of patience on both sides it seems to
> resolve itself and all works out fine.
>> I am running a set of GT blades on our 18T and have sold some blades for
> Yaks here in Australia.
>> This came about as I was looking for alternative blades to replace the
> V-530 blades.
>> Whilst there were no GT blades fitted to M14P in Australia, plenty of
> others, I decided to buy a set as they are less than half the cost of a MT
> prop.
>> Turned out to be a good decision.
>>
>> As I have previously mentioned, there is a notable performance increase
> and is very noticeable during aerobatic manoeuvres.
>> In fact, I sold a set of Blades to replace the original V-530 blades to a
> bloke that has built, and is flying, a Culp Special with M14P.
>> He reports less take off distance, better climb performance and cruise and
> far less turbulence around the cockpit area that was created by the vortex
> of the old blades.
>>
>> It is as Richard so nicely explained, be it a set of GT or Whirlwind
> blades or whatever, the fact that all these blades are of modern design
> incorporating modern technology, there has to be a improved performance, but
> it would be nice to see some actual test results.
>>
>> I have a spare M14P engine and I had intentions of upgrading the
> supercharger with a kit supplied by Richard Goode and also replacing the
> pistons with a set from Monty Barrett.
>> This would have given a little over 400hp and I am totally happy running
> the blades with that H.P.
>> Unfortunately I have had to temporarily put this project on the
> backburner.
>>
>> These blades, as will the V-530, will also simply disintegrate in the
> event of mishap.
>>
>> It is a shame that there are difficulties with Humberto and in view of
> that, should you be interested in a set of blades, I can perhaps
> circumnavigate sourcing blades from your North American rep, Humberto, and
> organize to supply a set of blades for M14P direct from factory thru my
> account.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Cheers from Downunder,
>> Chris.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2011 9:02 AM
>> To: yak-list
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
>>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne<cpayne@joimail.com>
>>
>> Buongiorno Alex,
>>
>> So does all this text you wrote on the Yak-list mean that we will see a
> set of those prop blades on a Yak-52 or a CJ-6 at either Sun-n-Fun or
> Oshkosh? I have tried to communicate with "Humberto" via email numerous
> times but something got lost in translation.
>>
>> It's not the Talk I'm interested in, It's your prop blades on one of our
> airplanes Walking the Talk, that will sell me on this prop. Quotes from your
> Engineering department, filtered through Marketing may prove difficult to
> translate into sales.
>>
>> Craig Payne
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GT YAK blades |
Hi, Chris...
Yes, I have a set on my Yak-52, and they've been great. The main
advantages: Very smooth and any balancing needed was due to the hub, not
the blades. Obvious increase in thrust on the ground roll, which is
shorter. Pull off the runway is more dramatic. After that, climb is a
bit better, and cruise pretty close to the stock blades. The finish is
lovely, like most modern propellers and the leading edge is
bullet-proof. Other than that, I like the fact that there have been many
sets of these in use for several years, and they're available. The price
is right in there with the other (new) blade alternatives (off list if
you want details).
With the old blades in short supply, I think we're lucky to have all of
these options in a niche market. If you've seen the Whirlwind
restoration of the old blades, you know what kind of work they do, but
of course, you need to start with a set of (old) blades, which you may
not have available. If you had to get some used blades, then have them
restored, the price is usually pretty close. The new blade options that
are being developed now are coming from people we all trust. Without
George and Cliff, Jill and Carl, Dennis, Doug, Richard, Jim, and I know
I'm forgetting a few, we'd be in trouble. Having said all of this, we've
gotten to know GT, mainly because they've been at some events in our
region. When you meet them face to face, you're very impressed with
their propellers and what they've been doing over the years. I guess
we're "spoilt for choice" as the British might say.
Stay Dry... -Eric
On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
> G'Day Eric,
>
> Glad to hear that.
> Are you running a set of GT Blades? And if so, how do you find them?
> I would be interested to know the price of the Whirlwind blades.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Wobschall
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2011 11:32 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
>
<eric@buffaloskyline.com>
>
> I can facilitate blade purchases here in the USA. Contact me off list.
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
>>
>> G'Day Craig,
>>
>> I have found that whilst there is a slight com problem with Alex from
GT
> props in Italy, with a little bit of patience on both sides it seems
to
> resolve itself and all works out fine.
>> I am running a set of GT blades on our 18T and have sold some blades
for
> Yaks here in Australia.
>> This came about as I was looking for alternative blades to replace
the
> V-530 blades.
>> Whilst there were no GT blades fitted to M14P in Australia, plenty of
> others, I decided to buy a set as they are less than half the cost of
a MT
> prop.
>> Turned out to be a good decision.
>>
>> As I have previously mentioned, there is a notable performance
increase
> and is very noticeable during aerobatic manoeuvres.
>> In fact, I sold a set of Blades to replace the original V-530 blades
to a
> bloke that has built, and is flying, a Culp Special with M14P.
>> He reports less take off distance, better climb performance and
cruise and
> far less turbulence around the cockpit area that was created by the
vortex
> of the old blades.
>>
>> It is as Richard so nicely explained, be it a set of GT or Whirlwind
> blades or whatever, the fact that all these blades are of modern
design
> incorporating modern technology, there has to be a improved
performance, but
> it would be nice to see some actual test results.
>>
>> I have a spare M14P engine and I had intentions of upgrading the
> supercharger with a kit supplied by Richard Goode and also replacing
the
> pistons with a set from Monty Barrett.
>> This would have given a little over 400hp and I am totally happy
running
> the blades with that H.P.
>> Unfortunately I have had to temporarily put this project on the
> backburner.
>>
>> These blades, as will the V-530, will also simply disintegrate in the
> event of mishap.
>>
>> It is a shame that there are difficulties with Humberto and in view
of
> that, should you be interested in a set of blades, I can perhaps
> circumnavigate sourcing blades from your North American rep, Humberto,
and
> organize to supply a set of blades for M14P direct from factory thru
my
> account.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Cheers from Downunder,
>> Chris.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cpayne
>> Sent: Tuesday, 25 January 2011 9:02 AM
>> To: yak-list
>> Subject: Yak-List: Re: GT YAK blades
>>
>>
>> Buongiorno Alex,
>>
>> So does all this text you wrote on the Yak-list mean that we will see
a
> set of those prop blades on a Yak-52 or a CJ-6 at either Sun-n-Fun or
> Oshkosh? I have tried to communicate with "Humberto" via email
numerous
> times but something got lost in translation.
>>
>> It's not the Talk I'm interested in, It's your prop blades on one of
our
> airplanes Walking the Talk, that will sell me on this prop. Quotes
from your
> Engineering department, filtered through Marketing may prove difficult
to
> translate into sales.
>>
>> Craig Payne
>>
>>
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Eric D. Wobschall
Buffalo Skyline
Buffalo-Lancaster Airport (KBQR):
4343 Walden Avenue
Lancaster, NY 14086
Office:
2120 Maple Road
Williamsville, NY 14221-1922
716.208.5460
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| Subject: | Customer Service Example |
Prospective Yak/CJ Buyers;
Here is a sample of what I'm talking about when I referred to the GT Propeller.
My problem is not with the product but with the attitude of their Sales Office:
Craig Payne
>>
>>
From: Humberto Dramisino <humbertod@gt-propellers.com> [Edit Address Book]
Subject: Re: conosci
Dear Craig,
I just receive this email back from GT and it looks like that the only thing got
lost in the translation is the is the fact if you have the money to buy or not.
I wrote you many emails if you wish i can forwarded back all of them to you, but
looks like at the end you want a free set of blade.
Sorry Craig here at GT we doing business we don't have time to deal with bullshit.
Are you ready to pay? We are ready to show you that this is the best propeller
for your stock hub.
Let us know when you are ready to do serious business.
Best regards,
Humberto Dramisino
>>
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