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Wed 01/26/11


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:37 AM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (Jill Gernetzke)
     2. 10:10 AM - Re: GT YAK blades (ALEXGTPROPELLERS)
     3. 11:16 AM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     4. 11:49 AM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     5. 02:32 PM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     6. 05:13 PM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (Tim Gagnon)
     7. 06:46 PM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     8. 08:23 PM - canopy bearings (keithmckinley)
     9. 08:33 PM - Housai rocker arm bolts (Okanogan Lew)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:37:22 AM PST US
    From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
    Subject: Customer Service Example
    Craig & Guys, While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad day...I am sure we have all been pushed to a limit and "lowered the boom". If I have a choice, I prefer face-to-face, secondly a phone call and lastly e-mail. E-mail takes away a lot of our normal filters, body language, vocal cues, etc. I fondly remember a customer calling in 90's and asking Carl if this was where he could get cheap Yak parts. The customer caught him on a bad day and the call was not perceived as a joke. In the end, the customer became one of our best customers and we laugh about the whole thing. I think we all have days where we would like to respond as Humberto did, but we exercise restraint and express diplomacy. Everyone has a different tolerance level. Jill M-14P, Inc.


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    Time: 10:10:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GT YAK blades
    From: "ALEXGTPROPELLERS" <info@gt-propellers.com>
    cpayne(at)joimail.com wrote: > Buongiorno Alex, > > So does all this text you wrote on the Yak-list mean that we will see a set of those prop blades on a Yak-52 or a CJ-6 at either Sun-n-Fun or Oshkosh? I have tried to communicate with "Humberto" via email numerous times but something got lost in translation. > > It's not the Talk I'm interested in, It's your prop blades on one of our airplanes Walking the Talk, that will sell me on this prop. Quotes from your Engineering department, filtered through Marketing may prove difficult to translate into sales. > > Craig Payne HI CRAIG and all The blades were @ OSH 010 on Eric 52 or Rick SU.Sorry not sure wich plane but blades were there. I'm organizing these days with my Bugatti fellows for display location and GT propellers and part of the saff will be at OS 011. Will be a pleasure meeting M-14 people. Now we are expanding so our presence at these two events will became regular in the near future. We did not came before because we were not properly organized as company to serv the US aviation market.Privatelly I came 4 times or even more. We got the capability to operate on CJ hubs,replacing metal blades but I'm not sure if engineering a new blade and keep 280 hp will be possible obtain better performance .HonestlyI have not spend much time considering it.We have invested alot in Hartzell blade retrofit. Any one tested different prop on the CJ with original engine ? In any case wood or composite blades runs smootly compared metal. Humberto told me that you phone him and he always gave the proper replies to your enquires. For any help contact me directly. Thanks Alex www.gt-propellers.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328573#328573 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/b1_705.jpg


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    Time: 11:16:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Customer Service Example
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Guys and Gals: Humberto said: "Sorry Craig here at GT we doing business we don't have time to deal with bullshit. Are you ready to pay? We are ready to show you that this is the best propeller for your stock hub. Let us know when you are ready to do serious business." Jill commented: "While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad day....." Jill is absolutely correct. He might have been having a bad day or he might not care how he alienates potential customers, or... he could be just like me... a real assH__ at times. I apologize for those times I have been less than kind. Of course, I also am not trying to run a business or sell products. Just saying. :-) Mark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jill Gernetzke Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example Craig & Guys, While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad day.....I am sure we have all been pushed to a limit and "lowered the boom". If I have a choice, I prefer face-to-face, secondly a phone call and lastly e-mail. E-mail takes away a lot of our normal filters, body language, vocal cues, etc. I fondly remember a customer calling in 90's and asking Carl if this was where he could get cheap Yak parts. The customer caught him on a bad day and the call was not perceived as a joke. In the end, the customer became one of our best customers and we laugh about the whole thing. I think we all have days where we would like to respond as Humberto did, but we exercise restraint and express diplomacy. Everyone has a different tolerance level. Jill M-14P, Inc.


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    Time: 11:49:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Customer Service Example
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    OH no! Tell me it an't so! ;-) Pappy -----Original Message----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic h@navy.mil> Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 2:12 pm Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example ALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Guys and Gals: umberto said: Sorry Craig here at GT we doing business we don't have time to deal with ullshit. re you ready to pay? We are ready to show you that this is the best propel ler or your stock hub. et us know when you are ready to do serious business." Jill commented: While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad ay....." ill is absolutely correct. He might have been having a bad day or he migh t not are how he alienates potential customers, or... he could be just like me.. . a eal assH__ at times. apologize for those times I have been less than kind. Of course, I also am ot trying to run a business or sell products. ust saying. :-) ark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jill Gernetzke ent: Wed 1/26/2011 8:27 AM o: yak-list@matronics.com ubject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example Craig & Guys, While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad ay.....I am sure we have all been pushed to a limit and "lowered the boom" . If I have a choice, I prefer face-to-face, secondly a phone call and lastl y -mail. E-mail takes away a lot of our normal filters, body language, voca l ues, etc. I fondly remember a customer calling in 90's and asking Carl if this was where e could get cheap Yak parts. The customer caught him on a bad day and the call as not perceived as a joke. In the end, the customer became one of our be st ustomers and we laugh about the whole thing. I think we all have days where we would like to respond as Humberto did, but we xercise restraint and express diplomacy. Everyone has a different toleran ce evel. Jill M-14P, Inc. ======================== =========== -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 02:32:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Customer Service Example
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    NAH! :-) ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example OH no! Tell me it an't so! ;-) Pappy -----Original Message----- From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 2:12 pm Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Guys and Gals: Humberto said: "Sorry Craig here at GT we doing business we don't have time to deal with bullshit. Are you ready to pay? We are ready to show you that this is the best propeller for your stock hub. Let us know when you are ready to do serious business." Jill commented: "While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad day....." Jill is absolutely correct. He might have been having a bad day or he might not care how he alienates potential customers, or... he could be just like me... a real assH__ at times. I apologize for those times I have been less than kind. Of course, I also am not trying to run a business or sell products. Just saying. :-) Mark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jill Gernetzke Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example Craig & Guys, While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad day.....I am sure we have all been pushed to a limit and "lowered the boom". If I have a choice, I prefer face-to-face, secondly a phone call and lastly e-mail. E-mail takes away a lot of our normal filters, body language, vocal cues, etc. I fondly remember a customer calling in 90's and asking Carl if this was where he could get cheap Yak parts. The customer caught him on a bad day and the call was not perceived as a joke. In the end, the customer became one of our best customers and we laugh about the whole thing. I think we all have days where we would like to respond as Humberto did, but we exercise restraint and express diplomacy. Everyone has a different tolerance level. Jill M-14P, Inc. =================================== get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List =================================== tp://forums.matronics.com =================================== _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ===================================


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    Time: 05:13:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Subject: Customer Service Example
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Bad day or not, that sort of interaction with a potential customer would be unacceptable if I ran a business. If I found out that an employee of mine sent a letter like that, they would be terminated and a letter of apology would be sent to the customer. When you type an e-mail, the filter has a lot more time to do its job than does the brain/mouth model. While I do not know Alex's position with GT, I am a little surprised he would not apologize for his coworkers remarks. That too is very telling. Back to the cave for me.. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328624#328624


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    Time: 06:46:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Customer Service Example
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    It's only stated for show. He'll still ripe your throat out. Once a Jarhead a lways a Jarhead. ?^))as for the rude email from GT propellors any plans I ha d for a new composite prop just to whirlwind or MT. Most likely Whirlwind si nce I have a YAK in my hanger wearing one. Also I've flown my 52 on it's win g. It definitely out performs the v530! If it came from one of my employees they would be history. Doc Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2011, at 1:44 PM, cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > OH no! Tell me it an't so! ;-) > > Pappy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E <mark.bitterlic h@navy.mil> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 2:12 pm > Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example > > MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Guys and Gals: > > > Humberto said: > > "Sorry Craig here at GT we doing business we don't have time to deal with > bullshit. > Are you ready to pay? We are ready to show you that this is the best prope ller > for your stock hub. > Let us know when you are ready to do serious business." > > Jill commented: > "While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad > day....." > > Jill is absolutely correct. He might have been having a bad day or he mig ht not > care how he alienates potential customers, or... he could be just like me. .. a > real assH__ at times. > > I apologize for those times I have been less than kind. Of course, I also am > not trying to run a business or sell products. > > Just saying. :-) > > Mark Bitterlich > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jill Gernetzke > Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 8:27 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Subject: Yak-List: Customer Service Example > > > > Craig & Guys, > > > > While Humberto's e-mail was not very diplomatic, he may have been having a bad > day.....I am sure we have all been pushed to a limit and "lowered the boom ". > > If I have a choice, I prefer face-to-face, secondly a phone call and lastl y > e-mail. E-mail takes away a lot of our normal filters, body language, voc al > cues, etc. > > I fondly remember a customer calling in 90's and asking Carl if this was w here > he could get cheap Yak parts. The customer caught him on a bad day and th e call > was not perceived as a joke. In the end, the customer became one of our b est > customers and we laugh about the whole thing. > > > > I think we all have days where we would like to respond as Humberto did, b ut we > exercise restraint and express diplomacy. Everyone has a different tolera nce > level. > > > > Jill > > M-14P, Inc. > > > > > > > > ========================= > get=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========================= > tp://forums.matronics.com > ========================= > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========================= > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 08:23:09 PM PST US
    Subject: canopy bearings
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    I'm replacing some glass in my rear canopy and noticed the roller bearings are getting a little sloppy. Wondering if anyone has a bearing number. Looks like HRB and 26 is stamped on them but I can't reference anything with that code. I'd like to replace these with sealed bearings. Thanks in advance. Keith McKinley -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328652#328652


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    Time: 08:33:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Housai rocker arm bolts
    From: "Okanogan Lew" <vplewis@community.org>
    Guys, I have notice oil leaking from the rocker arms bolt & nuts. I have found that the nuts are only just snugged up & then cotter pinned. I know that there is a crush washer under them that is suppose to seal up the joint. I am wondering how much tighter to make them to seal. Any suggestion would be helpful. Hard to come up with a torque value as they are castle nuts & have to line up with the holes in the bolt for the cotter pin. Thanks. Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328653#328653




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