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Fri 01/28/11


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 01:29 AM - Re: canopy bearings (Harv)
     2. 02:53 AM - Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52 (Didier Blouzard)
     3. 04:36 AM - Re: Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52 (Eric Wobschall)
     4. 05:02 AM - Re: Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52 (Eric Wobschall)
     5. 06:06 AM - Re: Yak 52 fuel Reservoir (Cliff Coy)
     6. 06:31 PM - Re: Subject: Customer Service Example (gtnorth)
     7. 06:54 PM - canopy replacement (keithmckinley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:29:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: canopy bearings
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Good morning Finally something I can chime in with.. Covered by the other guys but might give you another option I used a Challenge sealed bearing p/n 626-2RS C3 for my canopy's. Best regards from a cold and windswept UK Harv Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328805#328805


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    Time: 02:53:23 AM PST US
    From: Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard@gmail.com>
    Subject: Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52
    Did anyone knew about this film where the heroin is Mila Jovovich and her vehicle is a gorgeous Yak52.. I would love to have her in front or behind or even beside me in my Yak..... But wh'os Yak is it and where was this film shot??? No I don't have the answer !!! I just know the film title..... -- Didier BLOUZARD didier.blouzard@gmail.com 0624243672


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    Time: 04:36:22 AM PST US
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Subject: Re: Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52
    Didier: That airplane is based in Brantford, Ontario. The guy who owns it also has an L-29 (Delphin). The movie's producers painted the plane with some hind of non-permanent material, so after the were done borrowing filming Resident Evil, the owner had it painted with real paint in the same scheme. I can probably arrange for you to fondle it. Maybe you can channel MIla that way. -Eric On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Didier Blouzard wrote: > > Did anyone knew about this film where the heroin is Mila Jovovich and her vehicle is a gorgeous Yak52.. > > I would love to have her in front or behind or even beside me in my Yak..... > > But wh'os Yak is it and where was this film shot??? > > No I don't have the answer !!! > I just know the film title..... > > > -- > Didier BLOUZARD > didier.blouzard@gmail.com > 0624243672 > > >


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    Time: 05:02:10 AM PST US
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Subject: Re: Mila Jovovich piloting a YAK52
    Didier: Here's a picture of that plane on the ramp at the 2010 Brantford Airshow. Rick Volker is landing his SU-26M in the background. On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Didier Blouzard wrote: > > Did anyone knew about this film where the heroin is Mila Jovovich and her vehicle is a gorgeous Yak52.. > > I would love to have her in front or behind or even beside me in my Yak..... > > But wh'os Yak is it and where was this film shot??? > > No I don't have the answer !!! > I just know the film title..... > > > -- > Didier BLOUZARD > didier.blouzard@gmail.com > 0624243672 > > >


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    Time: 06:06:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yak 52 fuel Reservoir
    From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy@gmail.com>
    *If you're talking about a fuel sphere, I have new ones. Contact me off list. Cheers, Cliff * On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 18:07, CJ6XXK <Danielt_355@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all > > We are looking for a fuel Reservoir that sits on the firewall of the Yak > 52. > > The one we have has a hole in it and we are unable to weld it. > > Does someone have a spare that we could buy? > > We are in Austraila and have no problems paying for postage. > > Thanks Daniel > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328747#328747 > > -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy


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    Time: 06:31:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Subject: Customer Service Example
    From: "gtnorth" <hdramisino@gmail.com>
    Dear Mr. Craig Payne, since it looks like I'm the bad guy, and you like to go public, I will put public all the email you sent me with my answer and let the other friends on the forum make their own conclusion. Let's start: from Cpayne reply-to Cpayne to hdramisino@gmail.com date Sun, May 25, 2008 at 5:57 AM subject Yak prop mailed-by joimail.com hide details 5/25/08 Sir; Is that new propeller for the Yak a complete unit? I'm really only interested in new blades that fit the old hub. Craig Payne Humberto's answer: Humberto Dramisino to Cpayne cc GT PROPELLERS date Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:32 AM subject Re: Yak prop mailed-by gmail.com hide details 5/25/08 Dear Craig, No they fit the original hub, you only have to do after installation a dynamic balancing. Please contact me for any other information this is some information for you: New GT2-V-25 blades versus V-530 Vperod Type: Type : GT2-V-25 V-530 Tractor Tractor Two blade Two blade Hub application : V530 V530 Installation :Screwed in to hub Same Diameter : 2.50/98,4" 2.40/94.5" Maximal blade width :245 mm/96" 240 mm/94.4 Weight:About 9 kgs/18 Po. a blade Same Construction:Wood/carbon all wood Leading protection :Composite metal Blade design: Scimitar Oar Shape Airfoils : GT design Unknown Inertia moment : 05 KG-MP SP.S 05 KG-MP SP.S Application: 2.50/98", 360 hp 360 HP Looking : Modern sleek styled Old style Availability : New production Only used Maintenance : Spare blades /Oh Recon.old PERFORMANCE AND ADVANTAGES . Thanks to greater diameter and modern airfoils adopted on GT blades, tested in various flying conditions for years, many Yak 52 achieved outstanding performance compared to standard original blades : - Greater static thrust. - Shorter take off distance,both grass or hard surfaces. - Higher cruise speed @ any power setting. - @ 70% of power setting an average of 15 / 18 KMH / 8 /10 KTS faster. - Shorter landings thanks to greater propeller disc. - More energic feeling during all aerobatic manoeuvres. - Very good cooling in hot places. - Reduced noise level both in the cockpit that out side. - Smoother engine running. - Lower fuel burning. - Reduced engine damage when prop ground impact compared to blade made of aluminium or all composite. FEATURES : Blades diameter can be arraged from 2.50/98", up to 2.65/104". Standard configuration scimitar tips shaped. Square shaped blasdes on request. Metal leading edge in progress. For unlimited aerobatic operatos using 400/420 HP a greater metal blade retention is adopted. Standard finishing is high gloss White,Black,Grey. Custom paint on request. Carbon finishing is now available on request . Worldwide delivery . Standard YAK 52 360 HP 2.50/98", diameter. Other aircrafts using GT2-V-25 blades : Yak 52 TW. Yak 50. Yak 55. Yak 18. Other tests are in progress . Comparation GT2-V-25 price versus V530 and three blade. A reconditioned V-530 blades cost about 1.600,00 Euros with better looking. No performance increase. New GT blades with higher performance cost 5.500,00 Euros. Alternative : Three blade with modern looking and high performance cost about : 13.000 Euros Wich of these three options is your best solution ? IMPORTANT : GT-PROPELLERS supply only M-14 blades own designed and produced, statically balanced. GT-Propellers strongly advice to make new prop balance after installing the GT new blades. For every kind of M-14 application GT Propellers can advice you the best individual solution. Best regards, Humberto After this email I wrote another email to many YAK pilots and this was the email: (please everybody notice the the date) From: Humberto Dramisino Cc: GT PROPELLERS Sent: 2/4/2009 6:42:26 AM Subject: Humberto Dramisino from GT Propeller Dear Sir, My name is Humberto Dramisino and I'm a business partner with GT propeller in Italy. GT is an old manufacture of propeller for aircraft and they do propeller for warbird like your CJ and many other. I will receive by the end of February one set of blade for your aircraft and I'm looking for somebody interested to buy them, all the test they were already made in Italy and Romania, and the result were outstanding compared to the original one. The price for both propeller delivered to you is 8989.00, attached to this email you have the manual please have a look. Our propeller are made in high densified wood, and are capable to use all the power of your engine not limited like some of our competitors. If you have any other question, please don't hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Humberto Mr. Craig answer was: rom yakman@joimail.com reply-to yakman@joimail.com to Humberto Dramisino date Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:06 PM subject RE: Humberto Dramisino from GT Propeller hide details 2/4/09 Humberto, Thank you for the offer. Have not I seen this propeller blade replacement offerring for over 3 years now? At $8989 USD for blades only, I am afraid that the MTV 3-blade, with hub, becomes a viable option. At a price point of $4000 - $5000 USD, the blades could get some initial market share, leading to later price increases. Perhaps if your company could visit the major events like Sun 'n Fun and Oshkosh with a flying demo version, you could start getting orders in the U.S. I could try your prop blades and show them off as I am located at Lakeland Florida at the Sun 'N Fun location and also fly at Oshkosh AirVenure each year. Could I also suggest that your Yak Manual could use some editing of the English translation? This is something I could do. I spent my career in the technical world and have authored many of the manuals available on the RedStar Pilots Association website. Craig Payne This is my answer: rom Humberto Dramisino to yakman@joimail.com cc GT PROPELLERS date Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM subject Re: Humberto Dramisino from GT Propeller mailed-by gmail.com hide details 2/4/09 Dear Craig, Thank you for your quick response, just to clarify, the price is for the two blade delivered (shipping included), you have to only remove the original and put the new one on it, same hub. The two blade perform way better than the 3 blade from MT you can not even compare them, test were done in Italy. 3 blades look only nicer if you want, no more than that. with GT-Propeller we guarantee better climb, better cruise at same rpm, shorter landing, low noise comparable to 3 blades, , not to mention better fuel economy. The foil design by GT Italy only for the Yak's type airplane is not a generic prop like MT. If you interested please let me know, we are looking for serious people to do serious business, we are not looking for somebody to test because as I mentioned test were already done for the past 5 years, the product is final and outperform anything that today is on the market. I will have soon the first set in north America please let me know if there is any interest on your side. We are so sure about our quality that in our policy is if you are not satisfy we will take the propeller back and you will be refund in full, this is how we now that our product is the best, try to ask MT to do the same. Best regards, Humberto This is Mr. Craig answer: from yakman@joimail.com reply-to yakman@joimail.com to Humberto Dramisino date Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:45 AM subject Re: Humberto Dramisino from GT Propeller hide details 2/5/09 Humberto, It's not about testing, it's about marketing. Many owners tend to discount claims made by manufacturers and trust what they hear from a fellow owner and see flying. Even if your blades could perform as you state, no one is going to believe it without visible proof. The 3-blade "looks" better also, this is important to many owners. Regardless, you will find few sales at those prices. As for the existing 2-blade V530, Whirlwind Propeller will refurbish an existing set of blades with a composite cover and nickel edge for around $2500 per pair, delivered. They look great and last a long time. My aircraft is a Nanchang CJ-6 with M-14P engine and large spinner, my speeds are much higher than the Yaks. Could your propeller perform as well on this kind of airframe? Engineering claims will not matter as much as real comparisons by private owners. Craig Payne This is my last email before he stated "something got lost in the translation: from Humberto Dramisino to yakman@joimail.com cc GT PROPELLERS date Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:45 AM subject Re: Humberto Dramisino from GT Propeller mailed-by gmail.com hide details 2/5/09 Dear Craig, Like I mentioned to you I'm only looking somebody serious to sell my first set of blade, and it amazed me how in this field owners of airplane are only looking for the cheapest thing in the market to mounted on one of the most important part of the airplane, and they don't look for more tangible improvement, not to mention safety. I see people repair cracked wood propeller on these airplanes by adding a piece of wood in the crack with glue, sand it and flying it, when in Italy we not even use them to hang it on the wall. I also notice that often some pilot spend many thousand of dollar in useless instrument when the only important thing that hold them in the air they want it as cheap as possible, well I don't want to generalize and that's way I know i will find somebody that understand all this. About the speed of your airplane yes the propeller will do the perfect job on yours as well, if your airplane is more sleek in the air it will use more pitch and the blade is design for that. I will keep you posted, Best regards, Humberto Dramisino Since than I never heard from you, until you wrote to GT the following: Buongiorno Alex, So does all this text you wrote on the Yak-list mean that we will see a set of those prop blades on a Yak-52 or a CJ-6 at either Sun-n-Fun or Oshkosh? I have tried to communicate with "Humberto" via email numerous times but something got lost in translation. It's not the Talk I'm interested in, It's your prop blades on one of our airplanes Walking the Talk, that will sell me on this prop. Quotes from your Engineering department, filtered through Marketing may prove difficult to translate into sales. Craig Payne After this email... sorry guys I blew out, why? because after all the tests done by Rick Volker in USA, and many other pilots worldwide, you are still wondering if these blades are good or not, and trying to convince us to send you a free set for you to test. Sorry you came too late, no test no more, if want them you will have to pay. About the manufacturers that are doing good looking replacement propellers I tell you: sorry, GT is focused on making hi performance propellers not only good looking design, and safety is our first target on our product. That's why GT takes the time to develop products - behind those blades there are years of testing, test after test. The material GT use is one of the best available in world from the wood to the composite, no compromise, no cheap off corners. GT doesn't make cheap propellers. If you are looking to save money and buy a less expensive propeller and, you like to be a Guinea pig for others then do what you please. If you'd like to discuss business, I can be available any time, just call me. Best regards, Humberto Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328871#328871


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    Time: 06:54:24 PM PST US
    Subject: canopy replacement
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    I'm in the process of replacing the original rear cockpit glass on my CJ. After disassembly I see that the original glass was isolated from the frame using very thin rubber strips which were glued to the metal frame or in some locations to the glass itself. I read Jill's article regarding canopy replacement but was wondering what you all have used to keep the frame from directly touching the glass. I think the felt strips at 1/16" would be too thick. Thanks, Keith McKinley -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328872#328872




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