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Wed 03/09/11


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 06:41 AM - Re: EGT probes (keithmckinley)
     2. 06:41 AM - Re: EGT probes (keithmckinley)
     3. 11:39 AM - Control Surface Balancing (Thomas Smith)
     4. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: EGT probes (Eric Wobschall)
     5. 12:26 PM - Re: Re: EGT probes (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
     6. 03:30 PM - Re: EGT probes (keithmckinley)
     7. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: EGT probes (Eric Wobschall)
     8. 09:27 PM - Re: EGT probes (keithmckinley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:41:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Cracks my not be much of an issue if you do it the right way and have a threaded bung welded on the exhaust. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333306#333306


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    Time: 06:41:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Cracks my not be much of an issue if you do it the right way and have a threaded bung welded on the exhaust. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333305#333305


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    Time: 11:39:43 AM PST US
    From: Thomas Smith <thomas_csmith@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Control Surface Balancing
    Can anyone tell me how to balance control surfaces after painting? Is it just balancing for weight, or does it involve something else? Tom Smith


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    Time: 12:09:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    A bung (like a flange?) instead of a clamp on the exhaust... Which sounds great.... However, welding the titanium exhaust is tough. For one thing, the titanium rod you need to use is nearly 100% titanium. As Al Neri would say: "Difficult... not impossible." The ones I've seen use the hose clamp method... obviously not as classy. On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:37 AM, keithmckinley wrote: > > Cracks my not be much of an issue if you do it the right way and have a threaded bung welded on the exhaust. > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333305#333305 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:26:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Ok... Just being curious. Are we saying here that there is less of a chance of a crack, in a titanium exhaust system, if we totally remove the whole exhaust, take it over to a welding shop, weld in a threaded bung ... and just a second.... what type of metal threaded bung are we going to weld INTO this exhaust? What is the metal composition of the bung? Dissimilar metal issues? And then by the way, when you weld into that exhaust pipe, it tends to just blow up in smoke unless you get a REALLY REALLY good welding shop (I've seen this happen with my own eyes when the threaded smoke bung in a Sukhoi had to be repaired) ... and we are doing this to all NINE exhaust pipes..... And this is being done instead of: Drilling a clean hole and putting a strap around the pipe to hold in an EGT probe? Gents with due respect .... method number one is really classy. It also requires you to remove and re-install the whole exhaust system, take the chance of the guy screwing up the weld and really making a mess of your exhaust in the process, and this is being done because ..... Drilling a hole is not classy? And if you drill it poorly it MIGHT crack? In which case you would weld the crack? Sorry.... um... hand me the drill. Mark Bitterlich and JUST my 2 cents here. P.S. I have seen the welded bungs for a smoke system crack ALL the time in Sukhoi aircraft. On the contrary, I have also seen the smoke system that just drills a hole and puts in an injection nozzle held in place with a stainless hose clamp. Method number two can be easily repaired and lasts a long time. Method number one is a real pain in the ass. Sometimes the simple method is better than the classy method. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Wobschall Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: EGT probes A bung (like a flange?) instead of a clamp on the exhaust... Which sounds great.... However, welding the titanium exhaust is tough. For one thing, the titanium rod you need to use is nearly 100% titanium. As Al Neri would say: "Difficult... not impossible." The ones I've seen use the hose clamp method... obviously not as classy. On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:37 AM, keithmckinley wrote: <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > Cracks my not be much of an issue if you do it the right way and have a threaded bung welded on the exhaust. > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333305#333305 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    didn't know it was titanium.. -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333387#333387


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    Time: 07:02:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: Eric Wobschall <eric@buffaloskyline.com>
    Yea, and brittle as hell because it's not really an alloy. There are a few stray impurities, but it's almost pure. On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:27 PM, keithmckinley wrote: > > didn't know it was titanium.. > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333387#333387 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:27:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EGT probes
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    those things sound pretty expensive... -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333426#333426




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