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Wed 04/27/11


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 01:09 PM - Fw: Pneumatic Instrument Gauge (Mark Davis)
     2. 03:42 PM - Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 (Harv)
     3. 05:29 PM - Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 (Adrian Coop Cooper)
     4. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 (Walter Lannon)
     5. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 (Walter Lannon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:09:48 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org>
    Subject: Fw: Pneumatic Instrument Gauge
    Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Watts <kilousmc@aol.com> Date: April 27, 2011 8:51:02 AM CDT To: kilousmc@aol.com Subject: Pneumatic Instrument Gauge I'm looking for a Yak-52/Yak-52TW pneumatic air pressure gauge that's located on both the front/back instrument panel just above the landing gear handle. I believe it=92s also used in the Yak-50 and other Soviet Aircraft. The gauge has two needles that monitor the air pressure in the utility (normal) and emergency pneumatic system. This instrument (not to confuse the subject) is also referred as a 2M-80K Dual Manometer on the Instrument Panel Diagram in the Yak Manual.


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    Time: 03:42:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Thanks for the info, I should have said my Cj is a 1988 model Since my post i've had a good look through the parts manuals and It appears something to do with the gyro compass is mounted up high in the tail just forward of the rear fin, I think this is what was just mentioned, A separate post indicated some form of voltage regulation might be mounted between the cockpits and i'm almost certain there is an inverter mounted there and an identical one mounted in the tail. My guess would be the one in the tail used to supply the adf antenna / radio receiver and the one between the cockpits serves the instruments. Hopefully I can identify and remove much of this, it weighs one hell of a lot! (Avgas is too expensive to give it a free ride :) ) Rgs Harv Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338220#338220


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    Time: 05:29:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6
    From: "Adrian Coop Cooper" <cooperairracing@gmail.com>
    Harv. Mine is a 1988 as well. However, mine has a mechanical voltage regulator behind the firewall whilst my Buddies (same batch) has an electronic voltage regulator on the shelf between cockpits which I suspect was an air force installed mod. I did manage to remove 166lbs of surplus wiring and tube radios including the complete ADF system. However, I did keep the Magnuson type compass in both panels which requires that remote system with the little window just before the tail. It is a very nice feature as you can use it as a bug ... sort of like a very poor man's RMI. I also kept the inverters and the nice electric DGs So be careful not to remove something you might still like to have. My electrical Guru did a great job rewiring and I am running two King 196 VHFs a Garmin TX and a self enclosed Narco ILS all very nice and of course light weight. Once the ADF antenna and box is removed you can re-configure. Some folk modify the ADF box for tool and spare oil storage. Perhaps, a better alternative is to remove the ADF box's shelf aft and reconfigure as the battery (batteries 2x12v, modern, sealed, which will fit in the existing box) shelf. That then gives loads of room for a secure luggage area. This you can ensure is sealed to prevent FOD making its way back to cables and pulleys and still have a port and starboard access door as well as access from behind the rear seat. NB, the starboard access door is smaller than the one on the port side, so plan accordingly. This then leaves you the large removable panel on the starboard side, not only can you have the battery(s) there but it might be a good spot for a smoke tank. Of course this is all CofG and weight and balance dependent. I agree about not carrying excess weight at today's horrendous fuel prices. Be safe and good luck. Coop. -------- Coop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338229#338229


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    Time: 08:22:42 PM PST US
    From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6
    Hi Harv; That is the actual magnetic compass for the Gyro Compass system. On the very early aircraft like mine it was mounted near the LH wing tip. Later moved to the better location in the aft fuselage as you described. If installed (it is a military modification) the solid state voltage regulator is mounted behind the rear seat either on the shelf or below that on the front spar. I think Joe Howse was correct that it is on the spar. You may or may not have that. The normal regulator is on the aft, upper, RH side of frame #1. There are two necessary inverters. Refer to my previous post. There is a third one (for the ADF) located immediately behind the rear seat with all of the comm radio, radio compass(ADF) and interphone system that you can totally remove. You bet it is heavy. With all associated parts and wiring you can remove approx. 195 lbs. Of course you will later have to install some ballast to compensate for it. regards; Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 > > Thanks for the info, > > I should have said my Cj is a 1988 model > > Since my post i've had a good look through the parts manuals and It > appears something to do with the gyro compass is mounted up high in the > tail just forward of the rear fin, I think this is what was just > mentioned, > > A separate post indicated some form of voltage regulation might be mounted > between the cockpits and i'm almost certain there is an inverter mounted > there and an identical one mounted in the tail. My guess would be the one > in the tail used to supply the adf antenna / radio receiver and the one > between the cockpits serves the instruments. > > Hopefully I can identify and remove much of this, it weighs one hell of a > lot! (Avgas is too expensive to give it a free ride :) ) > > Rgs > > Harv > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338220#338220 > > >


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    Time: 08:30:21 PM PST US
    From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6
    Harv; I should read before sending rather than after----- Referring to the solid state voltage regulator I wrote "rear seat". Should have been front seat. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Removing chinese radio kit from cj6 > > Thanks for the info, > > I should have said my Cj is a 1988 model > > Since my post i've had a good look through the parts manuals and It > appears something to do with the gyro compass is mounted up high in the > tail just forward of the rear fin, I think this is what was just > mentioned, > > A separate post indicated some form of voltage regulation might be mounted > between the cockpits and i'm almost certain there is an inverter mounted > there and an identical one mounted in the tail. My guess would be the one > in the tail used to supply the adf antenna / radio receiver and the one > between the cockpits serves the instruments. > > Hopefully I can identify and remove much of this, it weighs one hell of a > lot! (Avgas is too expensive to give it a free ride :) ) > > Rgs > > Harv > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338220#338220 > > >




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