---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/26/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:05 AM - Re: Mag coils (Jill Gernetzke) 2. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Mag coils (Brian Lloyd) 3. 01:10 PM - Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Tom Elliott) 4. 01:12 PM - FW: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Tom Elliott) 5. 04:11 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Chris Wise) 6. 06:19 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Walter Lannon) 7. 06:30 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Adrian Coop Cooper) 8. 06:41 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Sam Sax) 9. 06:50 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Warren Hill) 10. 07:22 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (Roger Kemp M.D.) 11. 08:09 PM - Doug and Kathleen (Joe Howse) 12. 08:59 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (alikatz@mbay.net) 13. 09:09 PM - FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp (Tom Elliott) 14. 09:09 PM - FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp (Tom Elliott) 15. 09:11 PM - Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp (keithmckinley) 16. 09:40 PM - Re: FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp (alikatz@mbay.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:34 AM PST US From: "Jill Gernetzke" Subject: Yak-List: Re: Mag coils Jan, We are doing this here. You are correct, it is expensive and difficult. We also perform a points conversion, as points are hard to obtain. Jill M-14P, Inc. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Mag coils From: Brian Lloyd On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Jill Gernetzke wrote: > > Jan, > > We are doing this here. You are correct, it is expensive and difficult. > We > also perform a points conversion, as points are hard to obtain. > Why not work on an electronic ignition replacement? -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:42 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the Ryan Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in the hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this evening. Tom & Nora Elliott 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Tom cell 702-595-2680 Nora cell 702-808-1316 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:40 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: Yak-List: FW: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp -----Original Message----- From: Tom Elliott [mailto:N13472@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:07 PM Cc: Hal Subject: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Importance: High Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the Ryan Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in the hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this evening. Tom & Nora Elliott 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Tom cell 702-595-2680 Nora cell 702-808-1316 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:14 PM PST US From: "Chris Wise" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp G'Day, Please convey my thoughts to Doug and Kath and wish them a speedy recovery. Chris Wise, Adelaide Australia. -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Elliott Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 5:37 AM Subject: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the Ryan Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in the hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this evening. Tom & Nora Elliott 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Tom cell 702-595-2680 Nora cell 702-808-1316 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:52 PM PST US From: Walter Lannon Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Hal; If you get this would you please give our best wishes to Doug and Kathleen. Many thanks. Walt & Eva ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Elliott" Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 1:07 PM Subject: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp > > Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the > Ryan > Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. > They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in > the > hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said > they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described > as > totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this > evening. > > > Tom & Nora Elliott > 777 Quartz Ave > PMB 7004 > Sandy Valley NV > 89019 > Tom cell 702-595-2680 > Nora cell 702-808-1316 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:40 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp From: "Adrian Coop Cooper" Doug and Kathleen. Get well soon. My thoughts are with you. Best regards. Coop. -------- Coop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344176#344176 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:24 PM PST US From: Sam Sax Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Dear Doug and Katleen, Airplanes can be replaced, you and Kathleen can't... Glad you are both doing okay and get back in the cockpit soon! :) Sam Sax -----Original Message----- >From: Tom Elliott >Sent: Jun 26, 2011 4:07 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp > > >Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the Ryan >Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. >They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in the >hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said >they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as >totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this >evening. > > >Tom & Nora Elliott >777 Quartz Ave >PMB 7004 >Sandy Valley NV >89019 >Tom cell 702-595-2680 >Nora cell 702-808-1316 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp From: Warren Hill Doug and Kathleen, Very best wishes for a speedy recovery. Warren Hill On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Tom Elliott wrote: > > Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the Ryan > Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. > They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing in the > hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said > they are bruised up and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as > totaled. Hal or Doug will send an update this > evening. > > > Tom & Nora Elliott > 777 Quartz Ave > PMB 7004 > Sandy Valley NV > 89019 > Tom cell 702-595-2680 > Nora cell 702-808-1316 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Subject: RE: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp I second that! Doc -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Doug and Kathleen, Very best wishes for a speedy recovery. Warren Hill On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Tom Elliott wrote: > > Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the > Ryan Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. > They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing > in the hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said they are bruised up > and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as totaled. Hal > or Doug will send an update this evening. > > > Tom & Nora Elliott > 777 Quartz Ave > PMB 7004 > Sandy Valley NV > 89019 > Tom cell 702-595-2680 > Nora cell 702-808-1316 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:48 PM PST US From: "Joe Howse" Subject: Yak-List: Doug and Kathleen Our best wishes and hope for a speedy recovery Kathleen and Doug Alice and Joe Howse ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:02 PM PST US From: alikatz@mbay.net Subject: RE: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp Doug & Kathleen, Wishing you both a Speedy Recovery..... Best Regards, The Selby's Quoting "Roger Kemp M.D." : > > I second that! > Doc > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Warren Hill > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:49 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp > > > Doug and Kathleen, > > Very best wishes for a speedy recovery. > > Warren Hill > > > On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Tom Elliott wrote: > >> >> Doug and Kath Sapp had a rough off field landing this morning near the >> Ryan Ranch airport ( 2MT1) near West Glacier Mt. >> They were in their Super Cub. Both are doing OK and are under testing >> in the hospital. Hal Morley is with them. Hal said they are bruised up >> and sore but NO broken bones. The plane was described as totaled. Hal >> or Doug will send an update this evening. >> >> >> Tom & Nora Elliott >> 777 Quartz Ave >> PMB 7004 >> Sandy Valley NV >> 89019 >> Tom cell 702-595-2680 >> Nora cell 702-808-1316 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:35 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: Yak-List: FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp -----Original Message----- From: Hal Morley [mailto:yakjock@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:44 PM Cc: Lysandra Sapp; Methea Sapp Subject: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp Both are stable. Both have nearly identical back injuries with lower spine compression fractures, although Kathleen also suffered a broken rib. Both have concussions, Kathleen's a bit more severe and she is feeling nauseous. Recovery time estimated at 3-6 months wearing body/back braces. Cannot bend over during this time. Kathleen's brother has been staying with them so this should help out. Both also suffered some cuts and bruises. Doug is up and walking. They will stay either at the hospital or a nearby motel this evening as Laura's house is about 30 minutes away. Hopefully have them with us at Laura's for a bit before we get them back to Omak. NTSB should arrive this afternoon. Doug and Kathleen were flying their experimental Super Cub. Fuel was on, engine simply blew. Take off direction is level then rising field then heavy timber with falling terrain and some ponds. The only possibility was a small clearing to the right as Doug at 300-400' agl could not turn back. He picked two Birch trees to go between, was able to slow almost to stall before impacting the first tree with the right wing, then the second tree with the left wing (my sense is that the whiplash motion caused the injuries). Right wing departed and the plane ended up on its right side with the left wing pointing up. Two other pilots were there within minutes to help get them out. There was gas leaking but no fire. Great piloting and good luck. Hal Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:35 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: Yak-List: FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp -----Original Message----- From: Hal Morley [mailto:yakjock@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:44 PM Cc: Lysandra Sapp; Methea Sapp Subject: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp Both are stable. Both have nearly identical back injuries with lower spine compression fractures, although Kathleen also suffered a broken rib. Both have concussions, Kathleen's a bit more severe and she is feeling nauseous. Recovery time estimated at 3-6 months wearing body/back braces. Cannot bend over during this time. Kathleen's brother has been staying with them so this should help out. Both also suffered some cuts and bruises. Doug is up and walking. They will stay either at the hospital or a nearby motel this evening as Laura's house is about 30 minutes away. Hopefully have them with us at Laura's for a bit before we get them back to Omak. NTSB should arrive this afternoon. Doug and Kathleen were flying their experimental Super Cub. Fuel was on, engine simply blew. Take off direction is level then rising field then heavy timber with falling terrain and some ponds. The only possibility was a small clearing to the right as Doug at 300-400' agl could not turn back. He picked two Birch trees to go between, was able to slow almost to stall before impacting the first tree with the right wing, then the second tree with the left wing (my sense is that the whiplash motion caused the injuries). Right wing departed and the plane ended up on its right side with the left wing pointing up. Two other pilots were there within minutes to help get them out. There was gas leaking but no fire. Great piloting and good luck. Hal Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:01 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Off Field Landing Doug and Kath Sapp From: "keithmckinley" Best wishes for a speedy recovery! Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344190#344190 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:28 PM PST US From: alikatz@mbay.net Subject: Re: Yak-List: FW: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp Tom & Hal, Thank you for the update, our thoughts and prayers are with them... Best Regards, Jim Selby Jr Quoting Tom Elliott : > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal Morley [mailto:yakjock@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:44 PM > To: Tom Elliott; David KingCJ6; byronmfox Fox > Cc: Lysandra Sapp; Methea Sapp > Subject: Update on Doug and Kathleen Sapp > > Both are stable. Both have nearly identical back injuries with lower spine > compression fractures, although Kathleen also suffered a broken rib. Both > have concussions, Kathleen's a bit more severe and she is feeling nauseous. > Recovery time estimated at 3-6 months wearing body/back braces. Cannot bend > over during this time. Kathleen's brother has been staying with them so > this should help out. > > Both also suffered some cuts and bruises. > > Doug is up and walking. They will stay either at the hospital or a nearby > motel this evening as Laura's house is about 30 minutes away. Hopefully have > them with us at Laura's for a bit before we get them back to Omak. > > NTSB should arrive this afternoon. > > Doug and Kathleen were flying their experimental Super Cub. Fuel was on, > engine simply blew. Take off direction is level then rising field then heavy > timber with falling terrain and some ponds. The only possibility was a > small clearing to the right as Doug at 300-400' agl could not turn back. He > picked two Birch trees to go between, was able to slow almost to stall > before impacting the first tree with the right wing, then the second tree > with the left wing (my sense is that the whiplash motion caused the > injuries). Right wing departed and the plane ended up on its right side with > the left wing pointing up. Two other pilots were there within minutes to > help get them out. There was gas leaking but no fire. > > Great piloting and good luck. > > Hal > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.