---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/10/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: plugs (Chris Wise) 2. 01:27 AM - Re: plugs (CJ6XXK) 3. 05:14 AM - Training - SU-29 (Andrew Dobbon) 4. 06:09 AM - Re: plugs (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 11:49 AM - Bill Blackwell contact (ET) 6. 01:27 PM - Re: Training - SU-29 (Andrew Dobbon) 7. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: plugs (Kregg Victory) 8. 03:19 PM - Re: plugs (Paul Lewis) 9. 03:27 PM - Re: plugs (Brian Lloyd) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:00 AM PST US From: "Chris Wise" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: plugs Hi Daniel, Yes I am. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CJ6XXK Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: plugs Are you in Australia?? Daniel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345720#345720 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:33 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: plugs From: "CJ6XXK" Let me know if you want a hand with anything. Daniel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345722#345722 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:00 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Training - SU-29 From: Andrew Dobbon Hi I have a friend who is looking to get some flight training in a SU-29? Would be looking at a block of 10 hours. Thanks AD ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:16 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: plugs Thank you Didier. I am now offering CNC machined front cover plates in a "Deluxe" kit or they can be purchased as a separate item as well. Available on my web site. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 7/9/2011 11:15 PM, Didier BLOUZARD wrote: > I don't understand why it makes a difference flying into,rain or not. > The motor is more efficient and you don.t get wet. > I have regularly flown under heavy rain condition with my 18T without > noticing any difference. > No problem of water playing with whatsoever. By the way don.t tell it > to you motor it doesn't know about Taino.... > The only problem flying into rain is that it will damage your original > blade.the drops of water becomes very harmfull for a wooden blade. > For the rest we have installed the Dennis automotive conversion kit > with the anti moisture plate for the magneto on our 52 and it has > solved a moisture problem with an old original harness. We also have > flown the 52 under rain condition without any problems? > > So I can confirm that sometime you can get a drop in magneto because > of humidity with an old original harness and that installing Dennis > automotive kit with the plate solved our problems, Yes. > > Thank you Dennis!!! > > Didier Blouzard > +33(0)6 2424 3672 > > Le 10 juil. 2011 05:01, Eric Wobschall > a crit : > >> I had no problem with the stock ignition harness on either of my >> Yak-52s. >> >> >> On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Cliff Coy wrote: >> >>> *All I can say is that if you want to keep the ignition system that >>> was designed and produced for the engine and replace the wires with >>> new silicone wires, I've got plenty of it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Cliff >>> * >>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 21:24, Eric Wobschall >>> > wrote: >>> >>> I have also observed mere atmospheric humidity degrading the >>> performance of plug wires that were old and dried out. In the >>> dark, even if the wires haven't been exposed to water, you can >>> see the arcing. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote: >>> >>>> GDay Jim, >>>> Dizzy is slang for a distributor, which on the Austin Healy, >>>> MGA and Mini cooper that I had many years ago, and when they >>>> got wet in a downpour the dammed car would miss and all sorts. >>>> We solved that by punching holes for the plugs wires in a >>>> tennis ball which we fitted over the distributer and would be a >>>> tight fit for the plug wires and this stopped the water from >>>> playing havoc with the distributer. >>>> But if happened to be caught in a down pour and the plugs got >>>> to wet, then one faced the same problem. >>>> I am going to fit a set of Barrett pistons to a engine that we >>>> are building as well as the Barrett plug conversion kit which I >>>> have already ordered. >>>> Then some smart Alec told me that they play up in the rain >>>> which we all try and avoid but at times we do so. >>>> I was coming back from a show about 2 months ago and whist >>>> visibility was not too bad, 3 of us had to fly thru showers of >>>> pouring rain. >>>> Thanks for the reply and cheers, >>>> Chris. >>>> PS How are Doug and his wife coming along? >>>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >>>> ]*On Behalf >>>> Of*cjpilot710@aol.com >>>> *Sent:*Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:41 AM >>>> *To:*yak-list@matronics.com >>>> *Subject:*Re: Yak-List: plugs >>>> Please! What is a "dizzy" AND just how on earth does "woolly >>>> goat" run? >>>> Although I try to avoid rain, I have flown my auto converted >>>> M-14p light rain with no problem. >>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby >>>> In a message dated 7/9/2011 7:33:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>> Time,wise@txc.net.au writes: >>>> >>>> GDay All, >>>> I am about to order 3 sets of the auto conversion harnesses >>>> and plugs for myself and a couple of mates. >>>> I have flown the 18 T in rain and wonder what the effect of >>>> flying in rain and all the front plugs getting pretty wet. >>>> I once had a mini, and whilst I pretty well sealed the >>>> dizzy with a tennis ball, if the plugs got too wet it would >>>> run like a woolly goat. >>>> Thanks and cheers, >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> * * >>>> >>>> * * >>>> >>>> *====================================* >>>> >>>> *="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* >>>> >>>> *====================================* >>>> >>>> *ms.matronics.com/ ">http://forums.matronics.com* >>>> >>>> *====================================* >>>> >>>> *tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* >>>> >>>> *====================================* >>>> >>>> * * >>>> >>>> * * >>>> * * >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> *http://forums.matronics.com* >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> ** >>>> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* >>>> ** >>>> * * >>>> * >>>> >>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Clifford Coy >>> Border Air Ltd. >>> 629 Airport Rd. >>> Swanton, VT 05488 >>> 802-868-2822 TEL >>> 802-868-4465 FAX >>> Skype: Cliff.Coy >>> * >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> * >> >> * >> >> ================================== >> ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> ================================== >> ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> ================================== >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ================================== >> >> * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:03 AM PST US From: ET Subject: Yak-List: Bill Blackwell contact I'm trying to track down contact info for Bill Blackwell in az. The number I have is not in service and it seems so is the old email. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Erik ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Training - SU-29 From: Andrew Dobbon Hi Eric Thankyou for your reply, highly appreciated. He is based in Australia and prepared to travel, I will ask him tonight. Andrew On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Dobbon wrote: > Hi > > I have a friend who is looking to get some flight training in a SU-29? > Would be looking at a block of 10 hours. > > Thanks > > > AD > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:38 PM PST US From: "Kregg Victory" Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: plugs I also have custom machined sparkplug wire to magneto cover listed on my ebay store. High quality CNC machined aluminum, and you can purchase wires from Kingston. Thanks, Kregg Victory Aero LLC 2502 John Montgomery Dr. San Jose, CA 95148 408-836-5122 www.balancemyprop.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CJ6XXK Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: plugs Are you in Australia?? Daniel Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345720#345720 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: plugs From: Paul Lewis Guys, I watched Bud & Ross Granley perform an incredible aerobatic routine at the Arlington Fly-In this last weekend. Bud flys a Yak 55 & Ross a Yak 18T with M14P engines. I took a close look & saw that they both had auto spark plug conversions with silicon plug wires. Seem that they are very confident with that conversion!! Paul Lewis On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:06 AM, A. Dennis Savarese < dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > Thank you Didier. I am now offering CNC machined front cover plates in a > "Deluxe" kit or they can be purchased as a separate item as well. Availa ble > on my web site. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 > 334-546-8182 (cell) > Skype: Yakguy1 > www.yak-52.com > > > On 7/9/2011 11:15 PM, Didier BLOUZARD wrote: > >> I don't understand why it makes a difference flying into,rain or not. Th e >> motor is more efficient and you don.t get wet. >> I have regularly flown under heavy rain condition with my 18T without >> noticing any difference. >> No problem of water playing with whatsoever. By the way don.t tell it to >> you motor it doesn't know about Taino.... >> The only problem flying into rain is that it will damage your original >> blade.the drops of water becomes very harmfull for a wooden blade. >> For the rest we have installed the Dennis automotive conversion kit with >> the anti moisture plate for the magneto on our 52 and it has solved a >> moisture problem with an old original harness. We also have flown the 52 >> under rain condition without any problems? >> >> So I can confirm that sometime you can get a drop in magneto because of >> humidity with an old original harness and that installing Dennis automo tive >> kit with the plate solved our problems, Yes. >> >> Thank you Dennis!!! >> >> Didier Blouzard >> +33(0)6 2424 3672 >> >> Le 10 juil. 2011 =E0 05:01, Eric Wobschall > eric@buffaloskyline.**com >> a =E9crit : >> >> I had no problem with the stock ignition harness on either of my Yak-52 s. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Cliff Coy wrote: >>> >>> *All I can say is that if you want to keep the ignition system that wa s >>>> designed and produced for the engine and replace the wires with new si licone >>>> wires, I've got plenty of it. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Cliff >>>> * >>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 21:24, Eric Wobschall >>> eric@buffaloskyline.**com >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have also observed mere atmospheric humidity degrading the >>>> performance of plug wires that were old and dried out. In the >>>> dark, even if the wires haven't been exposed to water, you can >>>> see the arcing. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote: >>>> >>>> G=92Day Jim, >>>>> Dizzy is slang for a distributor, which on the Austin Healy, >>>>> MGA and Mini cooper that I had many years ago, and when they >>>>> got wet in a downpour the dammed car would miss and all sorts. >>>>> We solved that by punching holes for the plugs wires in a >>>>> tennis ball which we fitted over the distributer and would be a >>>>> tight fit for the plug wires and this stopped the water from >>>>> playing havoc with the distributer. >>>>> But if happened to be caught in a down pour and the plugs got >>>>> to wet, then one faced the same problem. >>>>> I am going to fit a set of Barrett pistons to a engine that we >>>>> are building as well as the Barrett plug conversion kit which I >>>>> have already ordered. >>>>> Then some smart Alec told me that they =93play up=94 in the rain >>>>> which we all try and avoid but at times we do so. >>>>> I was coming back from a show about 2 =BD months ago and whist >>>>> visibility was not too bad, 3 of us had to fly thru showers of >>>>> pouring rain. >>>>> Thanks for the reply and cheers, >>>>> Chris. >>>>> PS How are Doug and his wife coming along? >>>>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@**matronics.com >>>>> >>>>> >[mailto:owner-**yak-list-server@matronics.com >>>>> >>>>> >]*On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of*cjpilot710@aol.com >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:41 AM >>>>> *To:*yak-list@matronics.com >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:*Re: Yak-List: plugs >>>>> Please! What is a "dizzy" AND just how on earth does "woolly >>>>> goat" run? >>>>> Although I try to avoid rain, I have flown my auto converted >>>>> M-14p light rain with no problem. >>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby >>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2011 7:33:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>>> Time,wise@txc.net.au **writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> G=92Day All, >>>>> I am about to order 3 sets of the auto conversion harnesses >>>>> and plugs for myself and a couple of mates. >>>>> I have flown the 18 T in rain and wonder what the effect of >>>>> flying in rain and all the front plugs getting pretty wet. >>>>> I once had a mini, and whilst I pretty well sealed the >>>>> dizzy with a tennis ball, if the plugs got too wet it would >>>>> run like a woolly goat. >>>>> Thanks and cheers, >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> * * >>>>> >>>>> * * >>>>> >>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>> >>>>> *="http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>>>> ">http://**www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List* >>>>> >>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>> >>>>> *ms.matronics.com/ ">ht** >>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>> >>>>> *tp://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>>>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution* >>>>> >>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>> >>>>> * * >>>>> >>>>> * * >>>>> * * >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> *http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List* >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> *http://forums.matronics.com* >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> *http://www.matronics.com/**contribution* >>>>> ** >>>>> * * >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "> >>>>> http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>>>> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "> >>>>> http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> et="_blank">http://www.**matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-**List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.**com/contribution >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Clifford Coy >>>> Border Air Ltd. >>>> 629 Airport Rd. >>>> Swanton, VT 05488 >>>> 802-868-2822 TEL >>>> 802-868-4465 FAX >>>> Skype: Cliff.Coy >>>> * >>>> >>>> href="http://www.matronics.**com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>> ">http:/**/www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List >>>> href="http://forums.matronics.**com/ " > >>>> http://forums.matronics.**com >>>> href="http://www.matronics.**com/contribution >>>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> ======================= =======**==== >>> ef="http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>> ">http://**www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List >>> ======================= =======**==== >>> ums.matronics.com">http://**forums.matronics.com >>> ======================= =======**==== >>> http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution >>> ======================= =======**==== >>> >>> * >>> >> * >> >> >> * >> > =====**=================== ===========**= onics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> =====**=================== ===========**= =====**=================== ===========**= com/contribution> =====**=================== ===========**= > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: plugs From: Brian Lloyd On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Paul Lewis wrote: > Guys, I watched Bud & Ross Granley perform an incredible aerobatic routin e > at the Arlington Fly-In this last weekend. Bud flys a Yak 55 & Ross a Ya k > 18T with M14P engines. I took a close look & saw that they both had auto > spark plug conversions with silicon plug wires. Seem that they are very > confident with that conversion!! > Automotive technology tends to be at least an order of magnitude more moder n than aviation technology. > > Paul Lewis > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:06 AM, A. Dennis Savarese < > dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> Thank you Didier. I am now offering CNC machined front cover plates in a >> "Deluxe" kit or they can be purchased as a separate item as well. Avail able >> on my web site. >> Dennis >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-285-6263 >> 334-546-8182 (cell) >> Skype: Yakguy1 >> www.yak-52.com >> >> >> >> On 7/9/2011 11:15 PM, Didier BLOUZARD wrote: >> >>> I don't understand why it makes a difference flying into,rain or not. T he >>> motor is more efficient and you don.t get wet. >>> I have regularly flown under heavy rain condition with my 18T without >>> noticing any difference. >>> No problem of water playing with whatsoever. By the way don.t tell it t o >>> you motor it doesn't know about Taino.... >>> The only problem flying into rain is that it will damage your original >>> blade.the drops of water becomes very harmfull for a wooden blade. >>> For the rest we have installed the Dennis automotive conversion kit wit h >>> the anti moisture plate for the magneto on our 52 and it has solved a >>> moisture problem with an old original harness. We also have flown the 5 2 >>> under rain condition without any problems? >>> >>> So I can confirm that sometime you can get a drop in magneto because of >>> humidity with an old original harness and that installing Dennis autom otive >>> kit with the plate solved our problems, Yes. >>> >>> Thank you Dennis!!! >>> >>> Didier Blouzard >>> +33(0)6 2424 3672 >>> >>> Le 10 juil. 2011 =E0 05:01, Eric Wobschall >> eric@buffaloskyline.**com >> a =E9crit : >>> >>> I had no problem with the stock ignition harness on either of my >>>> Yak-52s. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Cliff Coy wrote: >>>> >>>> *All I can say is that if you want to keep the ignition system that w as >>>>> designed and produced for the engine and replace the wires with new s ilicone >>>>> wires, I've got plenty of it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Cliff >>>>> * >>>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 21:24, Eric Wobschall >>>> eric@buffaloskyline.**com >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have also observed mere atmospheric humidity degrading the >>>>> performance of plug wires that were old and dried out. In the >>>>> dark, even if the wires haven't been exposed to water, you can >>>>> see the arcing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Chris Wise wrote: >>>>> >>>>> G=92Day Jim, >>>>>> Dizzy is slang for a distributor, which on the Austin Healy, >>>>>> MGA and Mini cooper that I had many years ago, and when they >>>>>> got wet in a downpour the dammed car would miss and all sorts. >>>>>> We solved that by punching holes for the plugs wires in a >>>>>> tennis ball which we fitted over the distributer and would be a >>>>>> tight fit for the plug wires and this stopped the water from >>>>>> playing havoc with the distributer. >>>>>> But if happened to be caught in a down pour and the plugs got >>>>>> to wet, then one faced the same problem. >>>>>> I am going to fit a set of Barrett pistons to a engine that we >>>>>> are building as well as the Barrett plug conversion kit which I >>>>>> have already ordered. >>>>>> Then some smart Alec told me that they =93play up=94 in the rain >>>>>> which we all try and avoid but at times we do so. >>>>>> I was coming back from a show about 2 =BD months ago and whist >>>>>> visibility was not too bad, 3 of us had to fly thru showers of >>>>>> pouring rain. >>>>>> Thanks for the reply and cheers, >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> PS How are Doug and his wife coming along? >>>>>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@**matronics.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >[mailto:owner-**yak-list-server@matronics.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >]*On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of*cjpilot710@aol.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Sent:*Sunday, 10 July 2011 9:41 AM >>>>>> *To:*yak-list@matronics.com >>>>>> >>>>>> *Subject:*Re: Yak-List: plugs >>>>>> Please! What is a "dizzy" AND just how on earth does "woolly >>>>>> goat" run? >>>>>> Although I try to avoid rain, I have flown my auto converted >>>>>> M-14p light rain with no problem. >>>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby >>>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2011 7:33:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight >>>>>> Time,wise@txc.net.au **writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> G=92Day All, >>>>>> I am about to order 3 sets of the auto conversion harnesses >>>>>> and plugs for myself and a couple of mates. >>>>>> I have flown the 18 T in rain and wonder what the effect of >>>>>> flying in rain and all the front plugs getting pretty wet. >>>>>> I once had a mini, and whilst I pretty well sealed the >>>>>> dizzy with a tennis ball, if the plugs got too wet it would >>>>>> run like a woolly goat. >>>>>> Thanks and cheers, >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>> * * >>>>>> >>>>>> * * >>>>>> >>>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>>> >>>>>> *="http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>>>>> ">http://**www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List* >>>>>> >>>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>>> >>>>>> *ms.matronics.com/ ">ht** >>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com * >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>>> >>>>>> *tp://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>>>>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution* >>>>>> >>>>>> *==================== =========**=======* >>>>>> >>>>>> * * >>>>>> >>>>>> * * >>>>>> * * >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> *http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List* >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> *http://forums.matronics.com* >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> ** >>>>>> *http://www.matronics.com/**contribution* >>>>>> ** >>>>>> * * >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "> >>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>>>>> blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>>> style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "> >>>>>> http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>>>>> >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> et="_blank">http://www.**matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-**List >>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.**com/contribution >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Clifford Coy >>>>> Border Air Ltd. >>>>> 629 Airport Rd. >>>>> Swanton, VT 05488 >>>>> 802-868-2822 TEL >>>>> 802-868-4465 FAX >>>>> Skype: Cliff.Coy >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.**com/Navigator?Yak-List >>>>> ">http:/**/www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List >>>>> href="http://forums.matronics.**com/ "> >>>>> http://forums.matronics.**com >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.**com/contribution >>>>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> =====**==== >>>> ef="http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >>>> ">http://**www.matronics.com/Navigator?**Yak-List >>>> =====**==== >>>> ums.matronics.com">http://**forums.matronics.com >>>> =====**==== >>>> http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >>>> ">http://www.**matronics.com/contribution >>>> =====**==== >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >> >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?Yak-List >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >> ====**=================== ===========**= >> >> >> >> > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.