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Tue 07/19/11


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 04:22 AM - Available room at OSH for RPA event (Earthlink)
     2. 05:12 AM - Re: Available room at OSH for RPA event (ONTHEGOAZ@aol.com)
     3. 07:15 AM - Re: OSH Trip and Goodies (bill wade)
     4. 08:06 AM - Re: OSH Trip and Goodies (dabear)
     5. 09:06 AM - Re: OSH Trip and Goodies (RICHARD VOLKER)
     6. 11:38 AM - Re: OSH Trip and Goodies (dabear)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:22:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Available room at OSH for RPA event
    From: Earthlink <amoman@earthlink.net>
    Unable to attend the RPA event in OSH. Have a room at the Hilton Garden Inn located adjacent Wittman field. Available dates are Wed., 7/20 through Sat. Night, 7/23. Good rate. Contact me off list if interested. Buddy Moman Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 05:12:06 AM PST US
    From: ONTHEGOAZ@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Available room at OSH for RPA event
    In a message dated 7/19/2011 4:22:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, amoman@earthlink.net writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Earthlink <amoman@earthlink.net> Unable to attend the RPA event in OSH. Have a room at the Hilton Garden Inn located adjacent Wittman field. Available dates are Wed., 7/20 through Sat. Night, 7/23. Good rate. Contact me off list if interested. Buddy Moman Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 07:15:12 AM PST US
    From: bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: OSH Trip and Goodies
    Richard I've been following Swift fuels progress over the years and found i t =0Ainteresting that they can produce a fuel for aircraft from bio and the y say =0Acheaper than fossil whats the holdup to get it to market (governme nt?). They say =0Athe aviation fuel market is small enough that the big boy oil companies-really =0Aaren't interested so a small start up company li ke Swift should be chomping at =0Athe bit. I really don't like Government w hat can the people not going Oshkosh do =0Ato help? I also read that AOPA w as considering a Backing a manufacturer using =0Aunleaded car gas with addi tives, I like the American company making a fuel from =0Abio and all on Ame rican soil.=0ABill Wade=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFr om: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASen t: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:02:38 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Good m>=0A=0AI will be displaying my Swift Fuel tested Sukhoi at the Innovations Center at =0AAirVenture to help the fine people of Swift Enterprises. Plea se stop by and say =0Ahello!- =0A=0ARick Volker=0Awww.rvairshows,com=0AOn Jul 18, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Cpayne wrote:=0A=0A> --> Yak-List message posted by: Cpayne <cpayne@joimail.com>=0A> =0A> Due to a pesky M-14 oil leak that defies detection, I am driving to AirVenture. =0A>No fun but at least I'll get there without creating another BP/Exxon oil spill.=0A> =0A> On the bri ght side, my mini-SUV will haul plenty of the goodies I sell as well =0A>as some new show-n-tell new products. I also loaded up with tools so there wi ll =0A>be a mobile repair station available :)=0A> =0A> Craig Payne=0A> =0A =========================0A =================


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    Time: 08:06:41 AM PST US
    From: "dabear" <dabear@devere.us>
    Subject: OSH Trip and Goodies
    I'm all for using car gas (with additives and no eth). But I'm not for bio. The more that is made from bio, the higher our food prices will rise. There also isn't enough farm land to convert completely over to bio fuels (for all the car/boat/planes) so it really is an realistic alternative. If you look at the required crop yields to obtain bio fuels for cars/planes/boat fuel replacements, we'd need to more than double the amount of farm land, and that would leave us importing all our crops for food. Bear From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill wade Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies Richard I've been following Swift fuels progress over the years and found it interesting that they can produce a fuel for aircraft from bio and they say cheaper than fossil whats the holdup to get it to market (government?). They say the aviation fuel market is small enough that the big boy oil companies really aren't interested so a small start up company like Swift should be chomping at the bit. I really don't like Government what can the people not going Oshkosh do to help? I also read that AOPA was considering a Backing a manufacturer using unleaded car gas with additives, I like the American company making a fuel from bio and all on American soil. Bill Wade _____ From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:02:38 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies I will be displaying my Swift Fuel tested Sukhoi at the Innovations Center at AirVenture to help the fine people of Swift Enterprises. Please stop by and say hello! Rick Volker www.rvairshows,com On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Cpayne wrote: > > Due to a pesky M-14 oil leak that defies detection, I am driving to AirVenture. No fun but at least I'll get there without creating another BP/Exxon oil spill. > > On the bright side, my mini-SUV will haul plenty of the goodies I sell as well as some new show-n-tell new products. I also loaded up with tools so there will be a mobile repair station available :) >; &nb=======================


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    Time: 09:06:38 AM PST US
    From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com>
    Subject: Re: OSH Trip and Goodies
    Ah, but Swift Fuel can easily be made from petroleum, natural gas, any non f ood biomass, and probably garbage. The beauty of this is that we will likely use several different sources, so as not to be too dependent on any one. Pr esent ethanol distribution infrastructure can be taken over. Swift fuel allo ws the engine to stay cleaner and has no alcohols in it. It also yields 15% m ore range per gallon. Rick VOLKER Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:01 AM, "dabear" <dabear@devere.us> wrote: > I=99m all for using car gas (with additives and no eth). But I =99m not for bio. The more that is made from bio, the higher our food price s will rise. There also isn=99t enough farm land to convert completel y over to bio fuels (for all the car/boat/planes) so it really is an realist ic alternative. If you look at the required crop yields to obtain bio fuels for cars/planes/boat fuel replacements, we=99d need to more than doub le the amount of farm land, and that would leave us importing all our crops f or food. > > > > Bear > > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of bill wade > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:10 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies > > > > Richard I've been following Swift fuels progress over the years and found i t interesting that they can produce a fuel for aircraft from bio and they sa y cheaper than fossil whats the holdup to get it to market (government?). Th ey say the aviation fuel market is small enough that the big boy oil compani es really aren't interested so a small start up company like Swift should be chomping at the bit. I really don't like Government what can the people not going Oshkosh do to help? I also read that AOPA was considering a Backing a manufacturer using unleaded car gas with additives, I like the American com pany making a fuel from bio and all on American soil. > > Bill Wade > > > > From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:02:38 PM > Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies > > > I will be displaying my Swift Fuel tested Sukhoi at the Innovations Center at AirVenture to help the fine people of Swift Enterprises. Please stop by a nd say hello! > Rick Volker > www.rvairshows,com > On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Cpayne wrote: > > > > > Due to a pesky M-14 oil leak that defies detection, I am driving to AirV enture. No fun but at least I'll get there without creating another BP/Exxon oil spill. > > > > On the bright side, my mini-SUV will haul plenty of the goodies I sell a s well as some new show-n-tell new products. I also loaded up with tools so t here will be a mobile repair station available :) > >; &nb================ ======= > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 11:38:57 AM PST US
    From: "dabear" <dabear@devere.us>
    Subject: OSH Trip and Goodies
    No offense intended but I=99ll believe it when I see the actual low price/higher performance fuel delivered. The energy in the fuel has to come from somewhere. I also understand that if I use the Swift Fuel for 60 days I can lose 60+ unwanted pounds around my middle, and regrow my hair. If I order in the next 10 min I get a set of Ginzu steak knives. J Bear From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD VOLKER Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies Ah, but Swift Fuel can easily be made from petroleum, natural gas, any non food biomass, and probably garbage. The beauty of this is that we will likely use several different sources, so as not to be too dependent on any one. Present ethanol distribution infrastructure can be taken over. Swift fuel allows the engine to stay cleaner and has no alcohols in it. It also yields 15% more range per gallon. Rick VOLKER Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2011, at 11:01 AM, "dabear" <dabear@devere.us> wrote: I=99m all for using car gas (with additives and no eth). But I=99m not for bio. The more that is made from bio, the higher our food prices will rise. There also isn=99t enough farm land to convert completely over to bio fuels (for all the car/boat/planes) so it really is an realistic alternative. If you look at the required crop yields to obtain bio fuels for cars/planes/boat fuel replacements, we=99d need to more than double the amount of farm land, and that would leave us importing all our crops for food. Bear From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill wade Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies Richard I've been following Swift fuels progress over the years and found it interesting that they can produce a fuel for aircraft from bio and they say cheaper than fossil whats the holdup to get it to market (government?). They say the aviation fuel market is small enough that the big boy oil companies really aren't interested so a small start up company like Swift should be chomping at the bit. I really don't like Government what can the people not going Oshkosh do to help? I also read that AOPA was considering a Backing a manufacturer using unleaded car gas with additives, I like the American company making a fuel from bio and all on American soil. Bill Wade _____ From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:02:38 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: OSH Trip and Goodies I will be displaying my Swift Fuel tested Sukhoi at the Innovations Center at AirVenture to help the fine people of Swift Enterprises. Please stop by and say hello! Rick Volker www.rvairshows,com On Jul 18, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Cpayne wrote: > > Due to a pesky M-14 oil leak that defies detection, I am driving to AirVenture. No fun but at least I'll get there without creating another BP/Exxon oil spill. > > On the bright side, my mini-SUV will haul plenty of the goodies I sell as well as some new show-n-tell new products. I also loaded up with tools so there will be a mobile repair station available :) >; &nb======================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========= ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Yak-List ========= ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ========= http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion =========




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