Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/06/11


Total Messages Posted: 26



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:30 AM - Re: CJ flaps on final (CD 2.0)
     2. 12:49 AM - Re: CJ flaps on final (CD 2.0)
     3. 01:39 AM - Re: Anyone know the weight for the Housai? (Nanchang CJ6)
     4. 08:08 AM - Low Emergency Air Pressure (Bill1200)
     5. 08:39 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (A. Dennis Savarese)
     6. 08:50 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (kingcj6@aol.com)
     7. 08:57 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Byron Fox)
     8. 08:59 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Brian Lloyd)
     9. 09:30 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Yak Pilot)
    10. 10:52 AM - Re: Anyone know the weight for the Housai? (doug sapp)
    11. 11:17 AM - Re: Anyone know the weight for the Housai? (Richard Goode)
    12. 11:32 AM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Bill1200)
    13. 11:44 AM - can't log in (william dykes)
    14. 12:11 PM - Re: can't log in (Matt Dralle)
    15. 12:32 PM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Bill1200)
    16. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (A. Dennis Savarese)
    17. 12:58 PM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Bill1200)
    18. 01:06 PM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (LawnDart)
    19. 01:24 PM - Re: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (A. Dennis Savarese)
    20. 03:12 PM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Brian Lloyd)
    21. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Brian Lloyd)
    22. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Warren Hill)
    23. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (A. Dennis Savarese)
    24. 09:33 PM - Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure (Walter Lannon)
    25. 11:19 PM - Re: can't log in (Nigel Willson)
    26. 11:26 PM - Re: can't log in (Nigel Willson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:30:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ flaps on final
    From: "CD 2.0" <dbowie2007@hotmail.com>
    Dennis, no big deal.... : ) The wording of my post was a bit unclear and it could be confusing. thanks for the input. Carl Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351516#351516


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    Time: 12:49:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CJ flaps on final
    From: "CD 2.0" <dbowie2007@hotmail.com>
    Jim, thank you for your comment. I have the most admiration for Dennis and hearing from him is always welcome. I agree, a great pilot is made by a great flight instructor and a flight instructor is responsible for giving that solid base to a student. A good instructor isnt born over night.... a good CFI, garners more skill and experience in putting things across clearly to the student but there must be some underlying qualities... I will say these include a passion for aviation, being willing to teach and a desire to share that love of flying with others. Carl cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote: > This is what I hate about printed or text messages. Words don't always and can't emulate the intent nor manner of the writer. I know both you guys. There is not factious cell in either one of you. > > Anyway my "take" on crosswind and flaps, with split flaps on the CJ, there not a whole lot of difference in stall speed. But of course there is lots of drag. To me, this means when the power comes off, the RATE of deceleration is a lot faster than no flap. That's good thing. The reason one appears to "float" with no flap is not so much due to ground effect, a slow rate of deceleration with the lack of drag. That exposes one to the drift of a cross wind longer. Ground effect does play a part, but its the same. GE comes into effect at 1/2 the wing span of any aircraft. The only flaps that increase its effect substantially are the high lift types are Flower and double and triple slotted types. > > The other aspect is the deck angle and approach path of your approach. With zero flap every thing is flatter with the same speeds. Its as simple as that. There has been a lot of good advice posted here already. Practice is the common thread. A high % of ac accident happen in the low speed part of the envelop of any aircraft design. As a chief checkpilot for a CAP wing, my "big thing" was checking the pilots skill in all realms in the low speed envelop. I made sure the other checkpilots did as well. We had a very good safety record. A lot of times and time and again on this list, we've pointed out the importance of training and practice. Just look at the Wrights brothers. How many times did they "practice" before they got it right? > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351517#351517


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    Time: 01:39:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anyone know the weight for the Housai?
    From: "Nanchang CJ6" <lcdzkj@live.cn>
    The weight of package for engine is about 300 KGS and the dimension is 120cm 130cm 140cm. Sarah -------- Sarah's E-mail:lcdzkj@live.cn Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351520#351520 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_127.jpg


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    Time: 08:08:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@gmail.com>
    Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise everything else normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on the other side during flight, just not the emergency side. Any suggestions on where to start looking for leak? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351539#351539


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    Time: 08:39:09 AM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    Yak 52 or CJ6? A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 9/6/2011 10:05 AM, Bill1200 wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill1200"<billdykes52@gmail.com> > > Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise everything else normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on the other side during flight, just not the emergency side. Any suggestions on where to start looking for leak? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351539#351539 > >


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    Time: 08:50:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: kingcj6@aol.com
    Probably the check valve located on the upper right firewall. Doug has the rebuild kits. -----Original Message----- From: Bill1200 <billdykes52@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Sep 6, 2011 8:08 am Subject: Yak-List: Low Emergency Air Pressure Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise everyth ing lse normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on the other s ide uring flight, just not the emergency side. Any suggestions on where to star t ooking for leak? ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351539#351539 -= - The Yak-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 08:57:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com>
    Most likely the check valve on the starboard firewall above the start solenoid. Mine was leaking not so long ago. Doug Sapp has an overhaul kit, assuming your referring to a CJ. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:36 AM, "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > Yak 52 or CJ6? > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 > 334-546-8182 (cell) > Skype: Yakguy1 > www.yak-52.com > > > On 9/6/2011 10:05 AM, Bill1200 wrote: >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill1200"<billdykes52@gmail.com> >> >> Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise everything else normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on the other side during flight, just not the emergency side. Any suggestions on where to start looking for leak? >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351539#351539 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 08:59:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Bill1200 <billdykes52@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise > everything else normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on > the other side during flight, just not the emergency side. Any suggestions > on where to start looking for leak? > Look for a corroded check valve going over to the emergency side. If it is stuck closed the compressor won't be able to charge the emergency side. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA)


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    Time: 09:30:03 AM PST US
    From: Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    On a YAK-52, the emergency bottle is not filled by the compressor.- Only by the external fill port.- =0A-=0AOn the YAK-50, the compressor charge s both main and emergency.- =0A-=0AMark Bitterlich=0A-=0A=0AFrom: Bri an Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, Se ptember 6, 2011 11:56 AM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Low Emergency Air Pressur e=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Bill1200 <billdykes52@gm 2@gmail.com>=0A>=0A>Just noticed emergency air pressure low, reading about 1, otherwise everything else normal pressure, compressor brings pressure up to normal on the other side during flight, just not the emergency side. An y suggestions on where to start looking for leak?=0A>=0A=0ALook for a corro ded check valve going over to the emergency side. If it is stuck closed the compressor won't be able to charge the emergency side.=0A-- =0ABrian Lloyd , WB6RQN/J79BPL=0A3191 Western Dr.=0ACameron Park, CA 95682=0Abrian@lloyd.c =======


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    Time: 10:52:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Anyone know the weight for the Housai?
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Engine, crate, and pallet is about 600 lbs. Doug On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Thomas Geoghegan < thomasg@infosysnetworks.com> wrote: > I am looking for an approximate shipping weight for a Housai 285 engine.** > ** > > ** ** > > Thanks.**** > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 11:17:46 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Anyone know the weight for the Housai?
    For what it is worth,the M14P is 214 kgs,with a +2% allowance.[Times 2.205 for those not yet metricised]. Richard Goode Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: 06 September 2011 18:47 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Anyone know the weight for the Housai? Engine, crate, and pallet is about 600 lbs. Doug On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Thomas Geoghegan <thomasg@infosysnetworks.com> wrote: I am looking for an approximate shipping weight for a Housai 285 engine. Thanks. et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.invictawiz.com/> Invictawiz MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 11:32:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@gmail.com>
    It is a YAK 52, didn't know the compressor doesn't fill it. I'll fill it externally and listen for leak, thanks. Are the check valve post only for CJ, or does that apply to 52 as well? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351562#351562


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    Time: 11:44:10 AM PST US
    From: william dykes <billdykes52@hotmail.com>
    Subject: can't log in
    I am registered in the yak list as bill1200. I updated my email address in my profile and now unable to log in. Old email billdykes52@gmail.com. New e mail billdykes52@hotmail.com=2C thanks


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    Time: 12:11:25 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: can't log in
    At 11:41 AM 9/6/2011 Tuesday, you wrote: >I am registered in the yak list as bill1200. I updated my email address in my profile and now unable to log in. Old email <mailto:billdykes52@gmail.com>billdykes52@gmail.com. New email <mailto:billdykes52@hotmail.com>billdykes52@hotmail.com, thanks Try it now. Should work. Matt Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 12:32:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@hotmail.com>
    Found schematic for air system. What does the "protection" valve do? On the schematic it is between the taps and the gear actuator. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351565#351565


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    Time: 12:37:34 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    Protection valve is a check valve. For the Yak 52, the check valve for the emergency system is inside the fuselage, just behind the external air fill port. You can test this fairly easily, if it is a check valve leak. After filling the system from the external air fill port, spray some soapy water on the external port opening and see if it bubbles. If it does, the check valve I just mentioned is leaking. Before going further, let's do the simple test above and let me know what you find. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 9/6/2011 1:27 PM, Bill1200 wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bill1200"<billdykes52@gmail.com> > > It is a YAK 52, didn't know the compressor doesn't fill it. I'll fill it externally and listen for leak, thanks. Are the check valve post only for CJ, or does that apply to 52 as well? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351562#351562 > >


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    Time: 12:58:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: "Bill1200" <billdykes52@hotmail.com>
    Thank you Dennis. Won't be back home until tomorrow. But when I do that test, I'll post results. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351568#351568


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    Time: 01:06:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: "LawnDart" <propwash@gmail.com>
    I'm betting on the square o-ring in one of the red emergency valves in either the front or rear cockpit. I've had two leaks in 11 years - each time it was one of these o-rings. Item 6 on the attached diagram. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351569#351569 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/em_valve_904.jpg


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    Time: 01:24:49 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    Good point. There is a test that one can do to see if the problem is one of the emergency air valves. Very easy to do. - Observe and write down the pressure in both the emergency and main systems. - With the main air valve off, (assuming both emergency valves are closed tightly), squeeze the brake handle until all air is depleted in the system or until you no longer hear the "woosh" sound when you release the brake handle. - Now leave the pneumatic system alone overnight or for at least for a few hours. - When you come back to the airplane, squeeze the brake handle again and if you hear the "woosh" sound again AND the emergency side of the pressure instrument has leaked down, one of the two emergency air valves is leaking. Now it is just a matter of isolating which valve is leaking. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 9/6/2011 3:04 PM, LawnDart wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "LawnDart"<propwash@gmail.com> > > I'm betting on the square o-ring in one of the red emergency valves in either the front or rear cockpit. I've had two leaks in 11 years - each time it was one of these o-rings. Item 6 on the attached diagram. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351569#351569 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/em_valve_904.jpg > >


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    Time: 03:12:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote: > On a YAK-52, the emergency bottle is not filled by the compressor. Only by > the external fill port. > > On the YAK-50, the compressor charges both main and emergency. > > Mark Bitterlich > Sorry Mark. I was thinking CJ6A. Emergency side is filled from the compressor. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA)


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    Time: 03:12:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Bill1200 <billdykes52@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is a YAK 52, didn't know the compressor doesn't fill it. I'll fill it > externally and listen for leak, thanks. Are the check valve post only for > CJ, or does that apply to 52 as well? > Mark answered. The CJ6A fills the emergency system from the engine-driven compressor through a check valve. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA)


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    Time: 03:46:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    From: Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
    Dennis, Some air leaks can be insidious. Picked up a used ultrasonic leak detector on eBay for a little over $100 and this has helped me to cure all the leaks in both the main and emergency systems. With the probe tip properly placed, even the smallest leak is easy to locate. Warren On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:21 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > > Good point. There is a test that one can do to see if the problem is one of the emergency air valves. Very easy to do. > - Observe and write down the pressure in both the emergency and main systems. > - With the main air valve off, (assuming both emergency valves are closed tightly), squeeze the brake handle until all air is depleted in the system or until you no longer hear the "woosh" sound when you release the brake handle. > - Now leave the pneumatic system alone overnight or for at least for a few hours. > - When you come back to the airplane, squeeze the brake handle again and if you hear the "woosh" sound again AND the emergency side of the pressure instrument has leaked down, one of the two emergency air valves is leaking. > > Now it is just a matter of isolating which valve is leaking. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 > 334-546-8182 (cell) > Skype: Yakguy1 > www.yak-52.com > > > On 9/6/2011 3:04 PM, LawnDart wrote: >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "LawnDart"<propwash@gmail.com> >> >> I'm betting on the square o-ring in one of the red emergency valves in either the front or rear cockpit. I've had two leaks in 11 years - each time it was one of these o-rings. Item 6 on the attached diagram. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351569#351569 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/em_valve_904.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 06:19:55 PM PST US
    From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    Warren, You are 110% on the money. I have one myself. But yours must be better than mine. Probably because I paid too much for it in the first place. :-) I assumed Bill did not have one and gave him the two easiest troubleshooting procedures based on the most common causes of emergency system leaks. Hopefully the soapy water on the external air fill port will show the problem. If not, I'll help him figure it out. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (cell) Skype: Yakguy1 www.yak-52.com On 9/6/2011 5:44 PM, Warren Hill wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: Warren Hill<k7wx@earthlink.net> > > Dennis, > > Some air leaks can be insidious. Picked up a used ultrasonic leak detector on eBay for a little over $100 and this has helped me to cure all the leaks in both the main and emergency systems. With the probe tip properly placed, even the smallest leak is easy to locate. > > Warren > > > On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:21 PM, A. Dennis Savarese wrote: > >> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> >> Good point. There is a test that one can do to see if the problem is one of the emergency air valves. Very easy to do. >> - Observe and write down the pressure in both the emergency and main systems. >> - With the main air valve off, (assuming both emergency valves are closed tightly), squeeze the brake handle until all air is depleted in the system or until you no longer hear the "woosh" sound when you release the brake handle. >> - Now leave the pneumatic system alone overnight or for at least for a few hours. >> - When you come back to the airplane, squeeze the brake handle again and if you hear the "woosh" sound again AND the emergency side of the pressure instrument has leaked down, one of the two emergency air valves is leaking. >> >> Now it is just a matter of isolating which valve is leaking. >> Dennis >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-285-6263 >> 334-546-8182 (cell) >> Skype: Yakguy1 >> www.yak-52.com >> >> >> On 9/6/2011 3:04 PM, LawnDart wrote: >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "LawnDart"<propwash@gmail.com> >>> >>> I'm betting on the square o-ring in one of the red emergency valves in either the front or rear cockpit. I've had two leaks in 11 years - each time it was one of these o-rings. Item 6 on the attached diagram. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351569#351569 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/em_valve_904.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 09:33:14 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@persona.ca>
    Subject: Re: Low Emergency Air Pressure
    On the CJ if you wish to charge the emergency tank only, for example with nitrogen rather than air simply leave the main air valve closed. Probably applies to the Yak 50 as well Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lloyd To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Low Emergency Air Pressure On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Yak Pilot <yakplt@yahoo.com> wrote: On a YAK-52, the emergency bottle is not filled by the compressor. Only by the external fill port. On the YAK-50, the compressor charges both main and emergency. Mark Bitterlich Sorry Mark. I was thinking CJ6A. Emergency side is filled from the compressor. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA)


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    Time: 11:19:28 PM PST US
    From: "Nigel Willson" <nigel@yakdisplay.com>
    Subject: can't log in
    Matt, Whilst on the subject of "problems", something that's been bugging me for a while. On my Android phone I don't see the body of SOME of the yak list messages. I've nailed it down to the ones that are HTML formatted, and was wondering if those were the ones that people are using the web site to post to. It seems particular to the android (outlook sees them ok). However, other HTML formatted messages from other people can be read ok on the android. Wondered if the yak list server was doing something strange with the HTML (maybe has an HTML error in it) that outlook ignores and the android rejects - refusing to display the content? Any ideas? Nigel. (HTC Desire HD) -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 06 September 2011 20:04 Subject: Re: Yak-List: can't log in At 11:41 AM 9/6/2011 Tuesday, you wrote: >I am registered in the yak list as bill1200. I updated my email address >in my profile and now unable to log in. Old email ><mailto:billdykes52@gmail.com>billdykes52@gmail.com. New email ><mailto:billdykes52@hotmail.com>billdykes52@hotmail.com, thanks Try it now. Should work. Matt Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 11:26:39 PM PST US
    From: "Nigel Willson" <nigel@yakdisplay.com>
    Subject: can't log in
    Sorry - should have specifically stated we are talking about yak list messages received via EMAIL here... -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Willson [mailto:nigel@yakdisplay.com] Sent: 07 September 2011 07:17 Subject: RE: Yak-List: can't log in Matt, Whilst on the subject of "problems", something that's been bugging me for a while. On my Android phone I don't see the body of SOME of the yak list messages. I've nailed it down to the ones that are HTML formatted, and was wondering if those were the ones that people are using the web site to post to. It seems particular to the android (outlook sees them ok). However, other HTML formatted messages from other people can be read ok on the android. Wondered if the yak list server was doing something strange with the HTML (maybe has an HTML error in it) that outlook ignores and the android rejects - refusing to display the content? Any ideas? Nigel. (HTC Desire HD) -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: 06 September 2011 20:04 Subject: Re: Yak-List: can't log in At 11:41 AM 9/6/2011 Tuesday, you wrote: >I am registered in the yak list as bill1200. I updated my email address >in my profile and now unable to log in. Old email ><mailto:billdykes52@gmail.com>billdykes52@gmail.com. New email ><mailto:billdykes52@hotmail.com>billdykes52@hotmail.com, thanks Try it now. Should work. Matt Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft




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