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1. 03:14 AM - how've you been?? ()
2. 03:59 AM - Re: Registration (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 08:11 AM - Re: Noise and capacitor kit on magnetos (Rico Jaeger)
4. 12:19 PM - Yak Transport Dollies (Rico Jaeger)
5. 01:04 PM - CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 18T or other parts work? (jay wells)
6. 01:27 PM - Re: Yak Transport Dollies (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 02:08 PM - Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 18T or other parts work? (doug sapp)
8. 03:53 PM - Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 18T or other parts work? (Tom Elliott)
9. 04:44 PM - Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 18T or other parts work? (doug sapp)
10. 04:57 PM - Re: Shipping Legs (doug sapp)
11. 05:29 PM - Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 18T or other parts work? (Tom Elliott)
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| Subject: | how've you been?? |
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| Subject: | Re: Registration |
I think this will answer your question Steve.
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/reregistration/
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 9/25/2011 3:27 PM, Steven Johnson wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steven Johnson"<SAJDDS@comcast.net>
>
> Is there some type of action required from the FAA having to do with our
> plane's registration? I thought I heard that something was required this
> year but I cannot find any reference to it on the FAA web site. My plan
> already has an existing N number.
>
> Steve Johnson
> Yak 52, 0B5
> 413 522-1130 Cell
> sajdds@comcast.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Noise and capacitor kit on magnetos |
Guys, does anyone have dimensions for the transport dollies used to move a
Yak fuse? I'm specifically seeking bolt diameter and ear-spacing for the
wing fittings... THANX!
>>> "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> 9/22/2011 6:30 AM
>>>
Didier,
I will send you the information off-list short.
Dennis
From: Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, September 21, 2011 7:09:55 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Noise and capacitor kit on magnetos
Good day to all
I have changed the harness with ann automotive kit on my 52. I have now
noise in my radio at a point where it makes it difficult to fly with such
noise in the ears.
So I have bought a capacitor kit for the magnetos. Unfortunately I do not
understand well how to set it on the M14P magnetos.
Doeas anyone have a detailled explanation on how to set this kit up
please.
Thanks a lot for any advice
Best regards
--
Didier BLOUZARD
didier.blouzard@gmail.com
0624243672
==
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| Subject: | Yak Transport Dollies |
'Anyone have any transport fixtures I could possible rent / buy? If anyone
has them in the northern mid-west, I'll be traveling from WI to PA to pick
this thing up. Perhaps I could make a detour or we could meet somewhere...?
BTW - I've been so impressed w/ the outpouring of help and advice. I'm
truly humbled by the level and experience some of you have concerning this
type. THANK YOU ALL!! Rico
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| Subject: | CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak 52 |
18T or other parts work?
Has anyone adapted or installed cabin heat or fresh air vent controls or di
verter valves from a Yak 18T or 52 (or something else) on a CJ6 to provide
heat and fresh air through the firewall?=C2- =0A=C2-=0AFor that matter
does anyone have a good parts diagram showing the components of the Yak 18T
or 52 cabin heat/vent system?=0A=C2-=0AI have a later model CJ6 that is
plumbed for cabin heat and air at the engine baffles and firewall but still
has the factory caps on the firewall ducts.=C2- I have installed the 18T
SS exhaust with the heat muff and on/off valve on the muff (L side) and a
fresh air funnel (R side).=C2- Scat tubes can now easily connect the fres
h air =C2-funnel =C2-(R side) and heater muff outlet (L side) tubes to
the L & R firewall ducts =93 however =93 most western general a
viation installations seem to use a firewall side hot air diverter valve or
=9Cbox=9D so as to keep a continuous stream of cooling air blo
wing through the heater muff to prevent internal deterioration of the exhau
st inside the muff and subsequent CO issues.=C2- It seems like the only p
roper position for the existing valve on the 18T SS heat muff is continuous
ly open for cooling air -- then to a firewall mounted or inline diverter va
lve to vent unwanted hot air when not being used for cabin heat.=C2- The
CJ=99s
vent & heat tubes are 40 mm (about 1 =C2=BC inch; so 1 =C2=BC or 1 =C2=BD
inch scat tubing should work).=C2- The heater boxes I have found online f
or RV and general aviation applications seem to use 2 inch ducting and are
too big.=C2- There is plenty of room for a vent shut off valve behind the
firewall but it would seem preferable to have the heat/vent shut off contr
ols on the engine side of the firewall for obvious reasons =93 partic
ularly for heat.=0A=C2-=0AI would appreciate hearing from anyone who has
tackled this.=0A=C2-=0AIt would seem possible to construct inline cable c
ontrolled diverter valves (small heat/vent boxes) out of aluminum sheet (or
SS) but an off the shelf solution would be preferable.=0A=C2-=0AThe CJ p
arts manual (the standard 5 blue books) I have only shows the version of th
e CJ with no heat/vent ducting at all at the baffle plates and firewall and
is no help.=C2- =0A=C2-=0AThanks,=0A=C2-=0AJay Wells (Stripper)=0A19
83 CJ6A (285 HP)=0APotomac Falls, VA=0ABultaco956@yahoo.com=0ACell 571-283-
3554
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| Subject: | Re: Yak Transport Dollies |
There is a Yak expert in Eagle River, WI that just might have a set of
false undercarriages available. I know that many,many years ago they
used to import and assemble Yak 52's. The original owner, Carl Schels
retired. But I think his underling is now running the shop. I just
don't remember his name (it's an age thing) :-)
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 9/26/2011 2:15 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
> 'Anyone have any transport fixtures I could possible rent / buy? If
> anyone has them in the northern mid-west, I'll be traveling from WI to
> PA to pick this thing up. Perhaps I could make a detour or we could
> meet somewhere...?
> BTW - I've been so impressed w/ the outpouring of help and advice. I'm
> truly humbled by the level and experience some of you have concerning
> this type. THANK YOU ALL!! Rico
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak |
52 18T or other parts work?
Jay,
Most US aircraft have a *stainless steel* control box on the fire wall not
only to control the flow of hot air but to prevent smoke in the cockpit in
case of a engine fire, as your SCAT hoses will go away pretty fast. A alum
box will do you little good in a engine fire situation, stainless is more
expensive but is the best/safest way to go IMHO.
Best.
Doug
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, jay wells <bultaco956@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone adapted or installed cabin heat or fresh air vent controls or
> diverter valves from a Yak 18T or 52 (or something else) on a CJ6 to prov
ide
> heat and fresh air through the firewall? ******
> ** **
> For that matter does anyone have a good parts diagram showing the
> components of the Yak 18T or 52 cabin heat/vent system?****
> ** **
> I have a later model CJ6 that is plumbed for cabin heat and air at the
> engine baffles and firewall but still has the factory caps on the firewal
l
> ducts. I have installed the 18T SS exhaust with the heat muff and on/off
> valve on the muff (L side) and a fresh air funnel (R side). Scat tubes
> can now easily connect the fresh air funnel (R side) and heater muff
> outlet (L side) tubes to the L & R firewall ducts ' however ' most we
stern
> general aviation installations seem to use a firewall side hot air divert
er
> valve or =93box=94 so as to keep a continuous stream of cooling air blowi
ng
> through the heater muff to prevent internal deterioration of the exhaust
> inside the muff and subsequent CO issues. It seems like the only proper
> position for the existing valve on the 18T SS heat muff is continuously o
pen
> for cooling air -- then to a firewall mounted or inline diverter valve to
> vent unwanted hot air when not being used for cabin heat. The CJ=92s ven
t &
> heat tubes are 40 mm (about 1 =BC inch; so 1 =BC or 1 =BD inch scat tubin
g should
> work). The heater boxes I have found online for RV and general aviation
> applications seem to use 2 inch ducting and are too big. There is plenty
> of room for a vent shut off valve behind the firewall but it would seem
> preferable to have the heat/vent shut off controls on the engine side of
the
> firewall for obvious reasons ' particularly for heat.****
> ** **
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tackled this.****
> ** **
> It would seem possible to construct inline cable controlled diverter valv
es
> (small heat/vent boxes) out of aluminum sheet (or SS) but an off the shel
f
> solution would be preferable.****
> ** **
> The CJ parts manual (the standard 5 blue books) I have only shows the
> version of the CJ with no heat/vent ducting at all at the baffle plates a
nd
> firewall and is no help. ****
> ** **
> Thanks,****
> ** **
> Jay Wells (Stripper)****
> 1983 CJ6A (285 HP)****
> Potomac Falls, VA****
> Bultaco956@yahoo.com****
> Cell 571-283-3554****
> ** **
> ** **
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| Subject: | CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak |
52 18T or other parts work?
Very true, But stock Cj=92s (Firewall?) is Alum. so the box survives and
the
firewall does not.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell 702-595-2680
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves -
do
Yak 52 18T or other parts work?
Jay,
Most US aircraft have a stainless steel control box on the fire wall not
only to control the flow of hot air but to prevent smoke in the cockpit
in
case of a engine fire, as your SCAT hoses will go away pretty fast. A
alum
box will do you little good in a engine fire situation, stainless is
more
expensive but is the best/safest way to go IMHO.
Best.
Doug
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, jay wells <bultaco956@yahoo.com> wrote:
Has anyone adapted or installed cabin heat or fresh air vent controls or
diverter valves from a Yak 18T or 52 (or something else) on a CJ6 to
provide
heat and fresh air through the firewall?
For that matter does anyone have a good parts diagram showing the
components
of the Yak 18T or 52 cabin heat/vent system?
I have a later model CJ6 that is plumbed for cabin heat and air at the
engine baffles and firewall but still has the factory caps on the
firewall
ducts. I have installed the 18T SS exhaust with the heat muff and
on/off
valve on the muff (L side) and a fresh air funnel (R side). Scat tubes
can
now easily connect the fresh air funnel (R side) and heater muff
outlet (L
side) tubes to the L & R firewall ducts ' however ' most western
general
aviation installations seem to use a firewall side hot air diverter
valve or
=93box=94 so as to keep a continuous stream of cooling air blowing
through the
heater muff to prevent internal deterioration of the exhaust inside the
muff
and subsequent CO issues. It seems like the only proper position for
the
existing valve on the 18T SS heat muff is continuously open for cooling
air
-- then to a firewall mounted or inline diverter valve to vent unwanted
hot
air when not being used for cabin heat. The CJ=92s vent & heat tubes
are 40
mm (about 1 =BC inch; so 1 =BC or 1 =BD inch scat tubing should work).
The heater
boxes I have found online for RV and general aviation applications seem
to
use 2 inch ducting and are too big. There is plenty of room for a vent
shut
off valve behind the firewall but it would seem preferable to have the
heat/vent shut off controls on the engine side of the firewall for
obvious
reasons ' particularly for heat.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tackled this.
It would seem possible to construct inline cable controlled diverter
valves
(small heat/vent boxes) out of aluminum sheet (or SS) but an off the
shelf
solution would be preferable.
The CJ parts manual (the standard 5 blue books) I have only shows the
version of the CJ with no heat/vent ducting at all at the baffle plates
and
firewall and is no help.
Thanks,
Jay Wells (Stripper)
1983 CJ6A (285 HP)
Potomac Falls, VA
<mailto:Bultaco956@yahoo.com> Bultaco956@yahoo.com
Cell 571-283-3554
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| Subject: | Re: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak |
52 18T or other parts work?
Also true, but I'd rather have the cleanest air possible to breath while it
was burning through the firewall. Having a 2 inch hole to let the smoke an
d
fire into the cockpit does not seem the best situation. Granted a 020 alu
box is better than nothing, just barely.
FYI there are a few CJ out there with stainless firewalls. The way my luck
has been running I have given some thought to upgrading mine.........along
with my life insurance.
Doug
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> wrote:
> Very true, But stock Cj=92s (Firewall?) is Alum. so the box survives and
the
> firewall does not.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom Elliott
> CJ-6A NX63727
> 777 Quartz Ave
> PMB 7004
> Sandy Valley NV
> 89019
> Cell 702-595-2680****
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *doug sapp
> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2011 2:06 PM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves
-
> do Yak 52 18T or other parts work?****
>
> ** **
>
> Jay,****
>
> Most US aircraft have a *stainless steel* control box on the fire wall no
t
> only to control the flow of hot air but to prevent smoke in the cockpit i
n
> case of a engine fire, as your SCAT hoses will go away pretty fast. A al
um
> box will do you little good in a engine fire situation, stainless is more
> expensive but is the best/safest way to go IMHO.****
>
> ** **
>
> Best.****
>
> Doug****
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, jay wells <bultaco956@yahoo.com> wrote:*
*
> **
>
> Has anyone adapted or installed cabin heat or fresh air vent controls or
> diverter valves from a Yak 18T or 52 (or something else) on a CJ6 to prov
ide
> heat and fresh air through the firewall? ****
>
> ****
>
> For that matter does anyone have a good parts diagram showing the
> components of the Yak 18T or 52 cabin heat/vent system?****
>
> ****
>
> I have a later model CJ6 that is plumbed for cabin heat and air at the
> engine baffles and firewall but still has the factory caps on the firewal
l
> ducts. I have installed the 18T SS exhaust with the heat muff and on/off
> valve on the muff (L side) and a fresh air funnel (R side). Scat tubes c
an
> now easily connect the fresh air funnel (R side) and heater muff outlet
(L
> side) tubes to the L & R firewall ducts ' however ' most western gene
ral
> aviation installations seem to use a firewall side hot air diverter valve
or
> =93box=94 so as to keep a continuous stream of cooling air blowing throug
h the
> heater muff to prevent internal deterioration of the exhaust inside the m
uff
> and subsequent CO issues. It seems like the only proper position for the
> existing valve on the 18T SS heat muff is continuously open for cooling a
ir
> -- then to a firewall mounted or inline diverter valve to vent unwanted h
ot
> air when not being used for cabin heat. The CJ=92s vent & heat tubes are
40
> mm (about 1 =BC inch; so 1 =BC or 1 =BD inch scat tubing should work). T
he heater
> boxes I have found online for RV and general aviation applications seem t
o
> use 2 inch ducting and are too big. There is plenty of room for a vent s
hut
> off valve behind the firewall but it would seem preferable to have the
> heat/vent shut off controls on the engine side of the firewall for obviou
s
> reasons ' particularly for heat.****
>
> ****
>
> I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tackled this.****
>
> ****
>
> It would seem possible to construct inline cable controlled diverter valv
es
> (small heat/vent boxes) out of aluminum sheet (or SS) but an off the shel
f
> solution would be preferable.****
>
> ****
>
> The CJ parts manual (the standard 5 blue books) I have only shows the
> version of the CJ with no heat/vent ducting at all at the baffle plates a
nd
> firewall and is no help. ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ****
>
> Jay Wells (Stripper)****
>
> 1983 CJ6A (285 HP)****
>
> Potomac Falls, VA****
>
> Bultaco956@yahoo.com****
>
> Cell 571-283-3554****
>
> ****
>
> ****
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| Subject: | Re: Shipping Legs |
George,
I am sure I have them for 285 hp engine. different? don't think so.
Doug
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:37 AM, George Coy <george.coy@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are looking for a couple of sets of M14P shipping legs and the three
> shipping brackets that bolt to the mounting ring. Contact off list if you
> know of any. ****
>
> ** **
>
> George Coy****
>
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> Motorstar NA****
>
> 714 Airport Rd.****
>
> Swanton VT 05488****
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> 802-868-5633 off****
>
> 802-363-5782 cell****
>
> 802-868-4465 fax****
>
> george.coy@gmail.com****
>
> SKYPE george.coy****
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> motorstarna.com****
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| Subject: | CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves - do Yak |
52 18T or other parts work?
I upgrades mine with a =93Borasilca cloth=94 ? In any case it is the
fiberglass
type with an alum foil (heavy) on one side to keep the oil out. Shelby
Cobras and many of the Indy /
formula 1 race cars use it to keep the fiberglass body from melting /
catching fire. So far (6 + years) it has held up well.
But in my opinion if you want heat go with electric under garments
powered
from a 24 to 12 Vdc convertor. And do not put any holes through your
firewall.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell 702-595-2680
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves -
do
Yak 52 18T or other parts work?
Also true, but I'd rather have the cleanest air possible to breath while
it
was burning through the firewall. Having a 2 inch hole to let the smoke
and
fire into the cockpit does not seem the best situation. Granted a 020
alu
box is better than nothing, just barely.
FYI there are a few CJ out there with stainless firewalls. The way my
luck
has been running I have given some thought to upgrading
mine.........along
with my life insurance.
Doug
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> wrote:
Very true, But stock Cj=92s (Firewall?) is Alum. so the box survives and
the
firewall does not.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell 702-595-2680
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ6A - Cabin Heat/Air plumbing, diverter valves -
do
Yak 52 18T or other parts work?
Jay,
Most US aircraft have a stainless steel control box on the fire wall not
only to control the flow of hot air but to prevent smoke in the cockpit
in
case of a engine fire, as your SCAT hoses will go away pretty fast. A
alum
box will do you little good in a engine fire situation, stainless is
more
expensive but is the best/safest way to go IMHO.
Best.
Doug
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, jay wells <bultaco956@yahoo.com> wrote:
Has anyone adapted or installed cabin heat or fresh air vent controls or
diverter valves from a Yak 18T or 52 (or something else) on a CJ6 to
provide
heat and fresh air through the firewall?
For that matter does anyone have a good parts diagram showing the
components
of the Yak 18T or 52 cabin heat/vent system?
I have a later model CJ6 that is plumbed for cabin heat and air at the
engine baffles and firewall but still has the factory caps on the
firewall
ducts. I have installed the 18T SS exhaust with the heat muff and
on/off
valve on the muff (L side) and a fresh air funnel (R side). Scat tubes
can
now easily connect the fresh air funnel (R side) and heater muff
outlet (L
side) tubes to the L & R firewall ducts ' however ' most western
general
aviation installations seem to use a firewall side hot air diverter
valve or
=93box=94 so as to keep a continuous stream of cooling air blowing
through the
heater muff to prevent internal deterioration of the exhaust inside the
muff
and subsequent CO issues. It seems like the only proper position for
the
existing valve on the 18T SS heat muff is continuously open for cooling
air
-- then to a firewall mounted or inline diverter valve to vent unwanted
hot
air when not being used for cabin heat. The CJ=92s vent & heat tubes
are 40
mm (about 1 =BC inch; so 1 =BC or 1 =BD inch scat tubing should work).
The heater
boxes I have found online for RV and general aviation applications seem
to
use 2 inch ducting and are too big. There is plenty of room for a vent
shut
off valve behind the firewall but it would seem preferable to have the
heat/vent shut off controls on the engine side of the firewall for
obvious
reasons ' particularly for heat.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has tackled this.
It would seem possible to construct inline cable controlled diverter
valves
(small heat/vent boxes) out of aluminum sheet (or SS) but an off the
shelf
solution would be preferable.
The CJ parts manual (the standard 5 blue books) I have only shows the
version of the CJ with no heat/vent ducting at all at the baffle plates
and
firewall and is no help.
Thanks,
Jay Wells (Stripper)
1983 CJ6A (285 HP)
Potomac Falls, VA
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Cell 571-283-3554
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