Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/30/11


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 05:53 AM - G Meter (Thomas Smith)
     2. 04:26 PM - engine roughness part 2 (Philip Nicholson)
     3. 04:53 PM - Re: engine roughness part 2 (Michael Beach)
     4. 05:57 PM - Re: engine roughness part 2 (pnicholson)
     5. 06:08 PM - Re: engine roughness part 2 (pnicholson)
     6. 08:59 PM - Re: engine roughness part 2 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:53:30 AM PST US
    From: Thomas Smith <thomas_csmith@yahoo.com>
    Subject: G Meter
    Need to get a G meter for a Yak 52.- Anyone have on that works?- If so, contact me.=0A=0Athomas_csmith@yahoo.com=0A


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    Time: 04:26:11 PM PST US
    Subject: engine roughness part 2
    From: Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com>
    Hi again, some weeks ago, I reported engine roughness on deceleration on final. (Housai 6A). In short, anything over 1000rpm and higher it runs fairly smooth, the higher the revs the better. But at idle, the engine is very rough, panel shakes etc. Since then a bit of exploration. I confirmed that the primer is off and down. On run-up rythmic poof of black smoke (assume unburnt fuel on one cylinder) The oil screen filter was clear of metals (bit of goop), the gas filter is clear of sediment and water. We found that number nine cylinder is not firing properly and is just luke warm after 10 minutes idle. The plugs seem OK though the rear plug had a bit of carbon between the gap on pluig. We cleaned them all up and reinserted, same problem. So, my hangar mate things compression test is next (rings?) Is there anything else that I should be persuing? Thanks, Philip Nicholson Nanchang - C-FEPN


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    Time: 04:53:30 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Beach" <mbeach@hartwigs.com.au>
    Subject: engine roughness part 2
    Hi Phil, check your plug lead, We had a yak over here that had rubbed the lead and would run rough and miss under certain Situation. Fitted an aftermarket kit now runs like a dream. When we inspected the old lead we found arcing in the metal tubes on the bends. REGARDS MICHAEL BEACH SERVICE MANAGER HARTWIGS 1 TRAVEL STOP WAY LAVINGTON NSW 2641 PH 0260496044 FAX 0260496055 MOBILE 0427692366 -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Philip Nicholson Sent: Monday, 31 October 2011 10:23 AM Subject: Yak-List: engine roughness part 2 Hi again, some weeks ago, I reported engine roughness on deceleration on final. (Housai 6A). In short, anything over 1000rpm and higher it runs fairly smooth, the higher the revs the better. But at idle, the engine is very rough, panel shakes etc. Since then a bit of exploration. I confirmed that the primer is off and down. On run-up rythmic poof of black smoke (assume unburnt fuel on one cylinder) The oil screen filter was clear of metals (bit of goop), the gas filter is clear of sediment and water. We found that number nine cylinder is not firing properly and is just luke warm after 10 minutes idle. The plugs seem OK though the rear plug had a bit of carbon between the gap on pluig. We cleaned them all up and reinserted, same problem. So, my hangar mate things compression test is next (rings?) Is there anything else that I should be persuing? Thanks, Philip Nicholson Nanchang - C-FEPN -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1DqEzm2GB3/1GSjwb9cv56VQ7gQu9fcs6/1


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    Time: 05:57:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine roughness part 2
    From: "pnicholson" <pednicholson@gmail.com>
    Hi Michael, thanks for the quick response. But if there are two leads, two mags and two plugs for each cylinder, would it matter if one lead was shorting? Is there any way to check for lead current? (novice :-)) Thanks, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356367#356367


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    Time: 06:08:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine roughness part 2
    From: "pnicholson" <pednicholson@gmail.com>
    One last thing, the engine is more difficult to start than before.... typically takes 3-4 attempts and alot of fuel Cheers, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356368#356368


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    Time: 08:59:06 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: engine roughness part 2
    Philip, I think you should check that primer again. If it is NOT closing the valve at the bottom, it will pass fuel and give #9 cylinder way to much fuel. I've seen primers do just that. They looked closed and lock but were not. You will get the very indications you are describing. Also even with bad rings, a cylinder will fire and be almost as warm as the others. Doing a compression test is not hard, but may tell you if #9 cylinder has bad valves or they are badly out of adjustment, or the rings are totally shot. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 10/30/2011 7:26:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pednicholson@gmail.com writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com> Hi again, some weeks ago, I reported engine roughness on deceleration on final. (Housai 6A). In short, anything over 1000rpm and higher it runs fairly smooth, the higher the revs the better. But at idle, the engine is very rough, panel shakes etc. Since then a bit of exploration. I confirmed that the primer is off and down. On run-up rythmic poof of black smoke (assume unburnt fuel on one cylinder) The oil screen filter was clear of metals (bit of goop), the gas filter is clear of sediment and water. We found that number nine cylinder is not firing properly and is just luke warm after 10 minutes idle. The plugs seem OK though the rear plug had a bit of carbon between the gap on pluig. We cleaned them all up and reinserted, same problem. So, my hangar mate things compression test is next (rings?) Is there anything else that I should be persuing? Thanks, Philip Nicholson Nanchang - C-FEPN




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