Yak-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/08/12


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:26 AM - Yak Battery box (Anthony Hudacek)
     2. 01:53 AM - Re: Yak Battery box (Jan Mevis)
     3. 10:35 AM - Re: Yak Battery box (Walter Lannon)
     4. 11:52 AM - Re: helmets (Markus)
     5. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: helmets (RICHARD VOLKER)
     6. 12:49 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Larry Pine)
     7. 01:02 PM - Re: Yak Battery box (Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer)
     8. 01:16 PM - Re: helmets (Markus)
     9. 03:04 PM - Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14P starting issues (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    10. 04:06 PM - Re: CJ6 prop (Walter Lannon)
    11. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: helmets (RICHARD VOLKER)
    12. 06:20 PM - J9-G1 prop problem (Pete Fowler)
    13. 08:49 PM - Re: J9-G1 prop problem (Walter Lannon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:26:43 AM PST US
    From: Anthony Hudacek <antdea2000@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Yak Battery box
    Hi all,=0A-=0AStill trying to get some pics of an 18T battery setup with aftermarket batteries, eg: oddysey etc. Any pics please? Haven't recieved a ny as yet. It's only two screws to open the battery area. Don't- have a y ak battery box. -Hopeing someone wouldn't mind spending two minutes of th eir time to take some pics.=0A-=0AAnt.


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    Time: 01:53:57 AM PST US
    From: "Jan Mevis" <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    Subject: Yak Battery box
    Odyssey batteries are very good. Why don't you try to use boxes where the Odysseys seat well in? Different types available via Airspruce etc. Then the problem boils down to finding a way to secure these boxes within the battery cabinet. That's what I did in my 50. Jan From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Hudacek Sent: zondag 8 januari 2012 10:24 Subject: Yak-List: Yak Battery box Hi all, Still trying to get some pics of an 18T battery setup with aftermarket batteries, eg: oddysey etc. Any pics please? Haven't recieved any as yet. It's only two screws to open the battery area. Don't have a yak battery box. Hopeing someone wouldn't mind spending two minutes of their time to take some pics. Ant.


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    Time: 10:35:42 AM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Yak Battery box
    Hi Anthony; Just happen to have a pic of my CJ6 battery box with two Panasonic LCX 1228P batteries installed. Horizontal retention and spacing provided by wood blocks attached to the box. Unfortunately did not take a photo of the inside of the cover which has two wood blocks attached for vertical retention. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Hudacek To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: Yak-List: Yak Battery box Hi all, Still trying to get some pics of an 18T battery setup with aftermarket batteries, eg: oddysey etc. Any pics please? Haven't recieved any as yet. It's only two screws to open the battery area. Don't have a yak battery box. Hopeing someone wouldn't mind spending two minutes of their time to take some pics. Ant.


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    Time: 11:52:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: helmets
    From: "Markus" <feyerabm@web.de>
    While we are at helmets... A slightly off-topic question, but Im curious to know if anyone has any experience wearing a Clarity Aloft headset "inside" an HGU-55? Would there be issues with the small box of the headset, where the cable exits the headband in the neck, with the nape strap or neck edge-roll of the helmet? Im familiar with the CEP, but Im currently thinking to buy myself a Clarity Aloft and use it together with an "empty" helmet (no microphone, not speakers etc) for aerobatics and the headset without the helmet for non-aerobatic type of flying. Any advice appreciated. Markus Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362759#362759


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    Time: 12:09:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: helmets
    From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com>
    The length of the Clarity Aloft earpiece is greater than the CEP's on the market, and can be uncomfortable for longer than thirty minutes when squeezed under a helmet. The helmet places constant pressure on the long earpiece. I have used this combo several times in loud warbirds. Rick VOLKER Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Markus" <feyerabm@web.de> wrote: > > While we are at helmets... A slightly off-topic question, but Im curious to know if anyone has any experience wearing a Clarity Aloft headset "inside" an HGU-55? Would there be issues with the small box of the headset, where the cable exits the headband in the neck, with the nape strap or neck edge-roll of the helmet? Im familiar with the CEP, but Im currently thinking to buy myself a Clarity Aloft and use it together with an "empty" helmet (no microphone, not speakers etc) for aerobatics and the headset without the helmet for non-aerobatic type of flying. > > Any advice appreciated. > > Markus > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362759#362759 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:49:53 PM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: helmets (Noise)
    All, I've posted my experience one before in this area.- About 2 years ago, I worked closely with Westone to develop a system that would work with our he lmets and coms.- They have developed a light weight molded speaker system that works with our without your helmet speakers.- A mold is taken from your ear, that mold is sent to Westone and a low profile ear plug is produc ed.- Since the mold is from your ear, it fit perfectly and comfortable. - I have used these for more than two years now and a number of others ha s since installed them in their helmets.- To illustrate the difference. - Before Westones, I would have to turn the volume almost to 100% when in the pattern inorder to hear the tower clearly.- With Westons, I routinel y have the volume adjusted to about 10 t0 15%.- I hear the com radio and music fantastically, while still hearing the aircraft and engine.- I beli eve I can monitor the sound of the engine moreso with the Westones on becau se it removed much of the high pitch noice.- Can't fly without them and quite frankly would not want to.- Now flights are less stressful.- Below is a link to the company and if wanted I can put you intouch with my local rep that helped develop these.- They are used through out the military and no w for civilian radio impedances. - My setup includes: HGU-55p with Oragan foam elephant ears, and standard TPL lining. - http://www.westone.com/military/military-introduction Larry Pine --- On Sun, 1/8/12, RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> wrote: From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets The length of the Clarity Aloft earpiece is greater than the CEP's on the m arket, and can be uncomfortable for longer than thirty minutes when squeeze d under a helmet. The helmet places constant pressure on the long earpiece. I have used this combo several times in loud warbirds. Rick VOLKER Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Markus" <feyerabm@web.de> wrote: > > While we are at helmets... A slightly off-topic question, but I=C2=B4m cu rious to know if anyone has any experience wearing a Clarity Aloft headset "inside" an HGU-55? Would there be issues with the small box of the headset , where the cable exits the headband in the neck, with the nape strap or ne ck edge-roll of the helmet? I=C2=B4m familiar with the CEP, but I=C2=B4m cu rrently thinking to buy myself a Clarity Aloft and use it together with an "empty" helmet (no microphone, not speakers etc) for aerobatics and the hea dset without the helmet for non-aerobatic type of flying. > > Any advice appreciated. > > Markus > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362759#362759 > > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin.


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    Time: 01:02:06 PM PST US
    From: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Yak Battery box
    Hi Ant., attached is a picture of the Odyssey PC680 with the metal jacket and a racing car hold down billet. Hope that helps. cheers Elmar


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    Time: 01:16:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: helmets
    From: "Markus" <feyerabm@web.de>
    Thanks Richard, so the only thing would be the length of the earpieces but not the head band or the cable box or so. I guess Ill have to try and find someone who will borrow me the Clarity Aloft to give it a try. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362766#362766


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    Time: 03:04:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14P starting issues
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Wow. Reposted to the Yak List for info. This is one worth remembering. Mark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of waterpro Sent: Sun 1/8/2012 5:38 PM Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M14P starting issues --> M14PEngines-List message posted by: "waterpro" <h2o.pro@hotmail.com> WE GOT IT RUNNING!!!! Bill is ecstatic! Here is today's progress report: We went over the timing with a fine tooth comb. It's bang on 15 degrees on both mags. We cleaned everything related to the points and every contact inside both mags. Checked the gap on the points .022-.025 mm on each respectively. Here is where it gets interesting so pay attention! :-) I know this engine needs lots of prime to get going when dry, but the #7 cylinder issue got me thinking more physics than engine mechanic. The #7 cylinder is the closest to the primer nozzle, and the first intake that is "downhill" in the intake sequence. We knew we had good prime to the primer line, but no idea what happened after that. We went to remove the primer nozzle (a bugger of a job) but could not get it out even after removing the entire alternator and #7 intake manifold. Bill has moments of greatness and figured that there was no point in removing the primer nozzle because we could just see it through the #7 intake once the pipe was removed. We hooked all of the fuel back up and gave it a shot of prime. Blah.....3 very small disorganized streams of fuel came out of the end of the primer nozzle almost at a right angle and went towards the front of the engine. THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL! The end of the primer nozzle obviously had something plugging it. We took the primer line off again and cleaned everything as well as blew it out with compressed air. Nothing noticeable came out even though we had a rag over the primer nozzle to make sure nothing got in to the impeller or the rest of the engine. After hooking everything back up, we tried the prime again. Beautiful! A nice wide fan like spray of fine fuel mist went everywhere. There was about 3 times the volume of fuel in this spray than there was in the streams before the cleaning. We re assembled the engine and checked everything. It took us about 10 min. to roll the plane out of the shop, prep it, go through the pre-start checklist and get her running. She fired right up with a few small sputters and a real nice orange flame from both exhausts, along with a backyard full of white smoke. In conclusion it is quite simple. The primer was not putting fuel where it needed to be in order to have the impeller spin the fuel in to all of the intake pipes. It simply spurted out a disorganized glob of fuel of which half ran right in to intake #7 and the rest straight down and out the manifold drain hoses. Thank you to all of those who gave their opinions and ides. You got us going and kept us motivated. One more Russian radial will be in the air this spring. Peter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362778#362778


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    Time: 04:06:54 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: CJ6 prop
    Hi Chris; Neglected to give you my email address. Thought it would be on the Yak List post. Wrong! It is wlannon@shaw.ca Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Wise To: yak-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 4:48 PM Subject: Yak-List: CJ6 prop G'Day All, I am looking for a new set of blades and hub for a Nanchang CJ6 with associated paperwork to onsell. If a second hand set with Hub, please advise hours to run (the more the better) Please advise prices. Thanks and cheers, Chris.


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    Time: 05:41:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: helmets
    From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com>
    Markus, The cable box and head band do not get in the way. I have discussed CEP's with Bill Waterman, owner of Clarity Aloft, and he intends to use a shorter CEP-like earpiece in the future to fit under helmets better. It is not likely to happen overnight. i have seen them already go to an angled, shorter earpiece than their first series. Also, you want the non-tso'd, cheaper model because the mic is much stiffer and stays put much better under G-load. The headband can be bent to be comfortable. The tso'd version may have more comfortable head band under the pressure of a helmet, but the mike is horribly floppy. Rick On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Markus wrote: > > Thanks Richard, so the only thing would be the length of the earpieces but not the head band or the cable box or so. I guess Ill have to try and find someone who will borrow me the Clarity Aloft to give it a try. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362766#362766 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:20:10 PM PST US
    Subject: J9-G1 prop problem
    From: "Pete Fowler" <pfdesign1@cox.net>
    Had a problem this weekend at an airshow. The prop control stopped working. What happened was that at high MP, the prop started overspeeding so I pulled the prop lever and power and got an RPM and MP that allowed a safe landing. We replaced the prop governor and I went and did a test flight and other than only getting about 2150 rpm (we guessed at the adjustment) it worked great. So I started the airshow and the first time I pulled the power while doing a rejoin, the prop started overspeeding same as the previous day. It was totally unresponsive to the prop control and I orbited for altitude while assessing and once I'd reached a good glide altitude to the runway I tried cycling the prop and it "came back to life" and was able to be adjusted and was responsive (held RPM at different MP). Once I got to my home airport, I tried adjusting it while overhead and it completely stopped working again (I had to reduce MP to keep the RPM safe). Landed safely and tried cycling it on the ground and it worked but the prop control lever was "sticky". Note that in all our examination and work on the governor, the linkage was and is free and correct and there was resistance on the governor. I assume it's a problem in the prop hub itself but does anyone have any ideas? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362796#362796


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    Time: 08:49:02 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: J9-G1 prop problem
    Pete; Check to see if the prop control copper sleeve is moving with the cable. It should be clamped solid about 10" or so left of the governor. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Fowler" <pfdesign1@cox.net> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: Yak-List: J9-G1 prop problem > > Had a problem this weekend at an airshow. The prop control stopped > working. What happened was that at high MP, the prop started overspeeding > so I pulled the prop lever and power and got an RPM and MP that allowed a > safe landing. > > We replaced the prop governor and I went and did a test flight and other > than only getting about 2150 rpm (we guessed at the adjustment) it worked > great. > > So I started the airshow and the first time I pulled the power while doing > a rejoin, the prop started overspeeding same as the previous day. It was > totally unresponsive to the prop control and I orbited for altitude while > assessing and once I'd reached a good glide altitude to the runway I tried > cycling the prop and it "came back to life" and was able to be adjusted > and was responsive (held RPM at different MP). > > Once I got to my home airport, I tried adjusting it while overhead and it > completely stopped working again (I had to reduce MP to keep the RPM > safe). Landed safely and tried cycling it on the ground and it worked but > the prop control lever was "sticky". > > Note that in all our examination and work on the governor, the linkage was > and is free and correct and there was resistance on the governor. I assume > it's a problem in the prop hub itself but does anyone have any ideas? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362796#362796 > > >




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