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1. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Warren Hill)
2. 06:24 AM - Re: J9-G1 prop problem (Pilotdog57)
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Brian Lloyd)
4. 07:49 AM - seat cushions (Jon Boede)
5. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Warren Hill)
6. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Herb Coussons)
7. 08:42 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Rico Jaeger)
8. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Brian Lloyd)
9. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Brian Lloyd)
10. 09:14 AM - Help! My wife is a bonehead! (don't tell her I said that) (Cory Robin)
11. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Warren Hill)
12. 09:24 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Warren Hill)
13. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (cjpilot710@aol.com)
14. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Larry Pine)
15. 10:56 AM - Low Resistance Ignition Wires (shinden33)
16. 11:01 AM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (cjpilot710@aol.com)
17. 11:10 AM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (A. Dennis Savarese)
18. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Roger Kemp MD)
19. 12:04 PM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (Walter Lannon)
20. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (A. Dennis Savarese)
21. 12:05 PM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
22. 12:14 PM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (A. Dennis Savarese)
23. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Brian Lloyd)
24. 12:47 PM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
25. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (cjpilot710@aol.com)
26. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Roger Kemp MD)
27. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Nelson Sprague)
28. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Roger Kemp MD)
29. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Roger Kemp MD)
30. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
31. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Dr Andres Katz)
32. 03:33 PM - Uneven fuel feed CJ6 (bipolar)
33. 03:42 PM - Re: Uneven fuel feed CJ6 (Byron Fox)
34. 04:34 PM - Yak Battery Box (Anthony Hudacek)
35. 06:07 PM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (John Fischer)
36. 08:00 PM - Re: Uneven fuel feed CJ6 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
37. 09:10 PM - Fuel leaking from throat of M14P Carburettor (Royden 2011)
38. 11:14 PM - FW: Ignition system resistance (Chris Wise)
39. 11:17 PM - Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires (Jan Mevis)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The
combination of the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero
mod is nothing less than perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
Warren Hill
On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Larry Pine wrote:
> All,
> I've posted my experience one before in this area. About 2 years ago,
I worked closely with Westone to develop a system that would work with
our helmets and coms. They have developed a light weight molded speaker
system that works with our without your helmet speakers. A mold is
taken from your ear, that mold is sent to Westone and a low profile ear
plug is produced. Since the mold is from your ear, it fit perfectly and
comfortable. I have used these for more than two years now and a number
of others has since installed them in their helmets. To illustrate the
difference. Before Westones, I would have to turn the volume almost to
100% when in the pattern inorder to hear the tower clearly. With
Westons, I routinely have the volume adjusted to about 10 t0 15%. I
hear the com radio and music fantastically, while still hearing the
aircraft and engine. I believe I can monitor the sound of the engine
moreso with the Westones on because it removed much of the high pitch
noice. Can't fly without them and quite frankly would not want to. Now
flights are less stressful. Below is a link to the company and if
wanted I can put you intouch with my local rep that helped develop
these. They are used through out the military and now for civilian
radio impedances.
>
> My setup includes: HGU-55p with Oragan foam elephant ears, and
standard TPL lining.
>
> http://www.westone.com/military/military-introduction
>
> Larry Pine
>
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> --- On Sun, 1/8/12, RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com> wrote:
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> From: RICHARD VOLKER <rick@rvairshows.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 1:06 PM
>
>
> The length of the Clarity Aloft earpiece is greater than the CEP's on
the market, and can be uncomfortable for longer than thirty minutes when
squeezed under a helmet. The helmet places constant pressure on the long
earpiece. I have used this combo several times in loud warbirds.
> Rick VOLKER
>
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> On Jan 8, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Markus" <feyerabm@web.de> wrote:
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> > While we are at helmets... A slightly off-topic question, but I=C2=B4m
curious to know if anyone has any experience wearing a Clarity Aloft
headset "inside" an HGU-55? Would there be issues with the small box of
the headset, where the cable exits the headband in the neck, with the
nape strap or neck edge-roll of the helmet? I=C2=B4m familiar with the
CEP, but I=C2=B4m currently thinking to buy myself a Clarity Aloft and
use it together with an "empty" helmet (no microphone, not speakers etc)
for aerobatics and the headset without the helmet for non-aerobatic type
of flying.
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> > Any advice appreciated.
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| Subject: | Re: J9-G1 prop problem |
I think prop hub. When was it last overhauled?
DZ
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 8, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "Pete Fowler" <pfdesign1@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Had a problem this weekend at an airshow. The prop control stopped working. What
happened was that at high MP, the prop started overspeeding so I pulled the
prop lever and power and got an RPM and MP that allowed a safe landing.
>
> We replaced the prop governor and I went and did a test flight and other than
only getting about 2150 rpm (we guessed at the adjustment) it worked great.
>
> So I started the airshow and the first time I pulled the power while doing a
rejoin, the prop started overspeeding same as the previous day. It was totally
unresponsive to the prop control and I orbited for altitude while assessing and
once I'd reached a good glide altitude to the runway I tried cycling the prop
and it "came back to life" and was able to be adjusted and was responsive (held
RPM at different MP).
>
> Once I got to my home airport, I tried adjusting it while overhead and it completely
stopped working again (I had to reduce MP to keep the RPM safe). Landed
safely and tried cycling it on the ground and it worked but the prop control
lever was "sticky".
>
> Note that in all our examination and work on the governor, the linkage was and
is free and correct and there was resistance on the governor. I assume it's
a problem in the prop hub itself but does anyone have any ideas?
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The combination
> of the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero mod is nothing
> less than perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
>
A less-expensive option:
http://www.cep-usa.com/
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Anybody got a source for seat cushions (preferably leather or leather-ish)
that fit into the seat pans on the CJ/Yak?
We've got one CJ that has leather-covered cushions that go into the seats w
hen you're not wearing a butt-pack parachute and I'm looking for several mo
re... turns out the Mi-2 helicopter has exactly the same seats.
Thanks=2C
Jon
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the Westone system.
Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the radio. It was
touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking in many ways
at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed noise reduction headset
did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear a helmet.
Warren Hill
On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The combination of
the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero mod is nothing less than
perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
>
> A less-expensive option:
>
> http://www.cep-usa.com/
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> brian@lloyd.com
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
For clarification-
Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker? Or just an earplug
utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to
the helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
Herb
Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
drc@wscare.com
2641 Development Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311
Cell 920-639-8434
Work 920-338-6868
Fax 920-338-6869
On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The
combination of the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero
mod is nothing less than perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
>
> A less-expensive option:
>
> http://www.cep-usa.com/
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> brian@lloyd.com
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
This is good stuff, guys! I'm just getting to the point of "having" (more
like earning the "HONOR") to buy a helmet!
On another note...does anyone have a strong recommendation for parachutes?
And I would also like to go w/ cushions as a "Plan B."
Thanks, all!
>>> Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> 1/9/2012 10:20 AM >>>
For clarification-
Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker? Or just an earplug
utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to the
helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
Herb
Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
drc@wscare.com
2641 Development Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311
Cell 920-639-8434
Work 920-338-6868
Fax 920-338-6869
On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The combination
of the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero mod is nothing
less than perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
A less-expensive option:
http://www.cep-usa.com/
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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tronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matron
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the
> Westone system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the
> radio. It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it
> lacking in many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My
> Lightseed noise reduction headset did a much better job, but would not
> allow me to wear a helmet.
>
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and
can keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am
guessing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then the
CEP earphones should work too.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> wrote:
> For clarification-
> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker?
>
Yes.
> Or just an earplug utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
>
No.
> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to the
> helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>
Not bypassing them. They are in parallel. You don't disable the stock
earspeakers so the helment/headset will continue to work normally without
the CEP earpieces plugged in.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Help! My wife is a bonehead! (don't tell her I said that) |
(Also posted on M14 list)
I'm very embarrassed to admit this...
I was experiencing some prop surging/governor issues, and pulled it off the
plane to ship for an overhaul...
I put it in a box and placed it in the trunk of my car.... My wife
'cleaned' the car and threw it out... Doh!
Marital conflicts aside, I'm desperately in need of a servicable R2-
propeller governor for an M14P.
Please tell me someone out there has one! Contact me!
Cory Robin
crobin at skyvantage.com
801.649.2925 ext 301
801.599.7715 mobile
facebook.com/slowandlow (lots of WilgaBeast content here)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Speak for yourself Brian. Ear hair?
I tried the CEP product and it did not really work all that well for
what we do, in spite of what the web site says. I was disappointed.
On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the
Westone system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing
the radio. It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found
it lacking in many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My
Lightseed noise reduction headset did a much better job, but would not
allow me to wear a helmet.
>
> Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher
and can keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal.
I am guessing that it may be different for different people.
>
> One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do,
then the CEP earphones should work too.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> brian@lloyd.com
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
>
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Herb,
The electronics that drive the helmet speakers also drive the custom fit
earpieces / earphones. The helmet speakers still work, which serves as
something of a backup. This is one reason why I also had the Oregon Aero
mod done as well. The combination of isolation of the external ear and
isolation of the internal ear allows you to both hear and protects
against damaging noise levels at 120 dB, or higher.
Regarding price, this is one area where I think that doing things right
makes a huge difference. Some of the CJ and Yak droves that I know
obsess and spend money on nuances, but ignore some of the more important
things. Being able to comfortably hear fellow aircraft, the tower, ATIS,
etc., sure seems like something important to me. I echo Larry's
comments... personally, I would not consider flying without this. Safety
of the military helmet and comfortable audio in spite of an
exceptionally high noise environment. Minimal equipment for safe flying
these noisy warbirds in my opinion.
BTW, I can still hear pretty well with my noise-cancelling headphones,
but flying without a helmet is probably not a good idea, as many have
said before.
Warren Hill
On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Herb Coussons wrote:
> For clarification-
> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker? Or just an earplug
utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to
the helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>
> Herb
>
>
>
> Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
> drc@wscare.com
> 2641 Development Drive
> Green Bay, WI 54311
> Cell 920-639-8434
> Work 920-338-6868
> Fax 920-338-6869
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>> I have the same arrangement as Larry with a HGU-55 helmet. The
combination of the Westone molded ear piece system and the Oregon Aero
mod is nothing less than perfect for what we do with Yaks and CJs.
>>
>> A less-expensive option:
>>
>> http://www.cep-usa.com/
>>
>> --
>> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>> 3191 Western Dr.
>> Cameron Park, CA 95682
>> brian@lloyd.com
>> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
>> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
>>
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href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.
com/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
OMG! Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference with
oxygen flow!!!
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
brian@lloyd.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <_k7wx@earthlink.net_
(mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net) > wrote:
(mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net) >
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the
Westone system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the
radio. It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking
in many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed
noise reduction headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear
a
helmet.
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and
can keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am
guessing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then
the CEP earphones should work too.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
_brian@lloyd.com_ (mailto:brian@lloyd.com)
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Pappy,
You know that conversation already came up last week!
Larry Pine
--- On Mon, 1/9/12, cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
From: cjpilot710@aol.com <cjpilot710@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
OMG!- Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference with
oxygen flow!!!
Pappy-
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In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, brian@lloy
d.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the Westone
system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the radio.
It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking i
n many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed noise
reduction headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear a
helmet.
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and ca
n keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am gues
sing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then the
CEP earphones should work too.-
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
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All,
My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it with an automotive
wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has burned through the
mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two weeks ago, causing the
mag to ground to the case and quit. The general consensus is that these are
higher resistance wires and thus causing the electrons for find a easier path.
Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
Scott
Yak-52
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www.defiantco.com
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Hmmmmm. That has not happen to me.
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 1:56:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
scott.t.glaser@gmail.com writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "shinden33" <scott.t.glaser@gmail.com>
All,
My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it with
an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has burned
through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two weeks ago,
causing the mag to ground to the case and quit. The general consensus is
that these are higher resistance wires and thus causing the electrons for
find a easier path.
Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
Scott
Yak-52
--------
The Defiant Company
www.defiantco.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362851#362851
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| Subject: | Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires |
One of the things that has become quite obvious with the M9-x magnetos
is the fact the rotor position is not or never has been properly
positioned once the magnetos are properly timed. When the rotor
position is properly set, the leading finger will be directly under the
tab on the cap. This is the reason there are slots in the 3 mounting
screw holes in the rotors. And it doesn't matter if it's a single
finger or double finger rotor. The leading finger is the key (counter
clockwise rotation). If the rotor is not properly positioned the spark
must "jump" the gap to the tab on the cap thus causing additional wear.
Typically one can see tracks in the cap which show a slightly discolored
mark in the cap just prior to the tab. If anyone wants a
diagram/drawing of how to properly position the rotor on the mag after
it is properly timed, send me an email I will attach it to a reply.
Additionally it is very important to have the spark plug gap at around
.020". Since we are using the same coil as with the old Russian or
Chinese wiring harness, we should not be using plug gaps of .025-.030"
which can occur by not gaping the plugs when they are first installed.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 1/9/2012 12:53 PM, shinden33 wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "shinden33"<scott.t.glaser@gmail.com>
>
> All,
>
> My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it with an
automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has burned through
the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two weeks ago, causing the
mag to ground to the case and quit. The general consensus is that these are
higher resistance wires and thus causing the electrons for find a easier path.
>
> Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
>
> Scott
> Yak-52
>
> --------
> The Defiant Company
> www.defiantco.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362851#362851
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Pappy,
Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.
;^O))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
OMG! Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference with
oxygen flow!!!
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
brian@lloyd.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the Westone
system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the radio.
It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking in
many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed noise
reduction headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear a
helmet.
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and can
keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am
guessing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then the
CEP earphones should work too.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Hi Dennis;
I agree that could very well be the problem in this case but there is a bit
more to it.
It should not be necessary to adjust the rotor finger after timing the mag.
to the engine. It must line up with the index mark on the case which
ensures it is in the correct location relative to the distributor tabs.
If it does not line up (within +/-1mm) the magneto INTERNAL timing is not
correct.
If you are installing anything other than a new or overhauled and certified
mag. the internal timing must be checked and adjusted if necessary.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> One of the things that has become quite obvious with the M9-x magnetos is
> the fact the rotor position is not or never has been properly positioned
> once the magnetos are properly timed. When the rotor position is properly
> set, the leading finger will be directly under the tab on the cap. This
> is the reason there are slots in the 3 mounting screw holes in the rotors.
> And it doesn't matter if it's a single finger or double finger rotor. The
> leading finger is the key (counter clockwise rotation). If the rotor is
> not properly positioned the spark must "jump" the gap to the tab on the
> cap thus causing additional wear. Typically one can see tracks in the cap
> which show a slightly discolored mark in the cap just prior to the tab.
> If anyone wants a diagram/drawing of how to properly position the rotor on
> the mag after it is properly timed, send me an email I will attach it to a
> reply.
>
> Additionally it is very important to have the spark plug gap at around
> .020". Since we are using the same coil as with the old Russian or
> Chinese wiring harness, we should not be using plug gaps of .025-.030"
> which can occur by not gaping the plugs when they are first installed.
>
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1
> www.yak-52.com
>
>
> On 1/9/2012 12:53 PM, shinden33 wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "shinden33"<scott.t.glaser@gmail.com>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it
>> with an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has
>> burned through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two
>> weeks ago, causing the mag to ground to the case and quit. The general
>> consensus is that these are higher resistance wires and thus causing the
>> electrons for find a easier path.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
>>
>> Scott
>> Yak-52
>>
>> --------
>> The Defiant Company
>> www.defiantco.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362851#362851
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Beautiful doc! Can't stop laughing and laughed so hard I had tears in
my eyes.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 1/9/2012 1:20 PM, Roger Kemp MD wrote:
>
> Pappy,
>
> Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
> decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.
>
> ;^O))
>
> Doc
>
> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *cjpilot710@aol.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2012 11:28 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
>
> OMG! Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference
> with oxygen flow!!!
>
> Pappy
>
> In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> brian@lloyd.com <mailto:brian@lloyd.com> writes:
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net
> <mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net>>
>
> Brian,
>
> The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before
> the Westone system. Did not like it very much. Still had
> difficulty hearing the radio. It was touted as having superior
> noise reduction, but I found it lacking in many ways at the noise
> levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed noise reduction
> headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear a
> helmet.
>
> Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets
> tougher and can keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in
> the ear canal. I am guessing that it may be different for
> different people.
>
> One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do,
> then the CEP earphones should work too.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> brian@lloyd.com <mailto:brian@lloyd.com>
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
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| Subject: | Low Resistance Ignition Wires |
Timing the Russian mag includes more than just checking to see when the
points open. There is also a rotor setting that must be correct. The
reason I mention this is because of the potential to have too large of a
gap when the mag fires the pulse. Either too large a gap between the
actual mag rotor and the cap contact, or the plugs themselves.
So there are a number of things at issue here.
1. What plugs are you using and what is their exact gap that you have
them set to?
2. Have you set the mag rotor correctly in relationship to the mags
timing (See Dennis Savarese's pictures of how to do that).
3. You replaced your Russian wires with "an automotive wire kit".
Who's? Dennis or Barry's, or was it something you picked up off the
shelf yourself, and if so what exact wires were used?
One statement you made is right on the money.... but not quite
complete. You said: "higher resistance wires and thus causing the
electrons for find a easier path."
Yes, electricity will always find the path of least resistance. It is
unlikely to be the spark plug wires if you used the same wires in both
the left and right mags, and only the left is burning up. That said,
increased spark plug gap will "raise the resistance", as will a rotor
that is too far away from the caps spark plug wire fitting.
Other things that could cause more resistance could relate to how you
managed to put the spark plug wires into the cap.... did you use the
screw in sharp pointed piece and did it penetrate all the new wires
correctly to make a good contact? Is it possible that you have the
POINT GAP in the MAG's POINTS set incorrectly?
Lastly, I would really like to see a picture of how the pencil burned
through the mag cap. Any kind of carbon trail that is not totally
removed from a previous incident will cause it to happen again much
easier. So, it would be a good thing to be able to see the damage with
a picture.
Bottom line, you are correct. If the resistance becomes too high going
to the spark plugs, it is possible for the high voltage to "find"
another path, but there are a lot of things other than the wires
themselves that could cause this.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shinden33
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
All,
My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it
with an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has
burned through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two
weeks ago, causing the mag to ground to the case and quit. The general
consensus is that these are higher resistance wires and thus causing the
electrons for find a easier path.
Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
Scott
Yak-52
--------
The Defiant Company
www.defiantco.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362851#362851
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| Subject: | Re: Low Resistance Ignition Wires |
That's exactly what I'm talking about Walt. I've seen so many rotor
fingers not lined up with the scribe mark after the magneto is properly
timed, it isn't even funny. I've even had someone call me on the phone
and tell me they were rotating the ROTOR in the slots in an effort to
time the magneto!
All I am saying is it is a very good idea to check this setting once the
mags are properly timed because of how many I have seen that are not
properly set.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 1/9/2012 2:01 PM, Walter Lannon wrote:
>
> Hi Dennis;
>
> I agree that could very well be the problem in this case but there is
> a bit more to it.
> It should not be necessary to adjust the rotor finger after timing the
> mag. to the engine. It must line up with the index mark on the case
> which ensures it is in the correct location relative to the
> distributor tabs.
>
> If it does not line up (within +/-1mm) the magneto INTERNAL timing is
> not correct.
> If you are installing anything other than a new or overhauled and
> certified mag. the internal timing must be checked and adjusted if
> necessary.
>
> Walt
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
>
>
>> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> One of the things that has become quite obvious with the M9-x
>> magnetos is the fact the rotor position is not or never has been
>> properly positioned once the magnetos are properly timed. When the
>> rotor position is properly set, the leading finger will be directly
>> under the tab on the cap. This is the reason there are slots in the
>> 3 mounting screw holes in the rotors. And it doesn't matter if it's a
>> single finger or double finger rotor. The leading finger is the key
>> (counter clockwise rotation). If the rotor is not properly
>> positioned the spark must "jump" the gap to the tab on the cap thus
>> causing additional wear. Typically one can see tracks in the cap
>> which show a slightly discolored mark in the cap just prior to the
>> tab. If anyone wants a diagram/drawing of how to properly position
>> the rotor on the mag after it is properly timed, send me an email I
>> will attach it to a reply.
>>
>> Additionally it is very important to have the spark plug gap at
>> around .020". Since we are using the same coil as with the old
>> Russian or Chinese wiring harness, we should not be using plug gaps
>> of .025-.030" which can occur by not gaping the plugs when they are
>> first installed.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> A. Dennis Savarese
>> 334-285-6263
>> 334-546-8182 (cell)
>> Skype: Yakguy1
>> www.yak-52.com
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/2012 12:53 PM, shinden33 wrote:
>>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "shinden33"<scott.t.glaser@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced
>>> it with an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left
>>> mag has burned through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago
>>> and once two weeks ago, causing the mag to ground to the case and
>>> quit. The general consensus is that these are higher resistance
>>> wires and thus causing the electrons for find a easier path.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> Yak-52
>>>
>>> --------
>>> The Defiant Company
>>> www.defiantco.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362851#362851
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Roger Kemp MD <viperdoc@mindspring.com>wrote:
> Pappy,****
>
> Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
> decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.**
> **
>
> ;^O))****
>
> Doc
>
Just breathe through your mouth.
But I have had difficulty with a number of in-the-ear-canal transducers
unsealing and coming out. And it does seem to be related to the fact that I
have more hair in my friggin' ears than I do on the top of my head anymore.
And, Doc, I think you meant to say "Boogers," not "Buggars." Just as a
hint, they have to do with opposite ends of the alimentary canal. ;-)
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Low Resistance Ignition Wires |
Just a further comment on this if I may concerning "higher resistance
spark plug wires". Both kits that I have seen (both Dennis's and
Barry's) are using extremely high quality 8mm spark plug wires or
larger, and in addition are "racing" types used in very high performance
automobiles. These systems support firing voltages as high as 45,000
volts or more without breakdown. Their resistance values will work
perfectly with anything from systems as small as those used on a
lawn-mower to those used in 2000 horsepower racing engines.
Keep in mind that in any ignition system, what determines the actual
firing voltage that the coil actually develops is ultimately a factor of
the total resistance to ground. While wires do have some resistance, of
course ... the actual HUGE resistance comes from AIR GAPS! Common sense
applies.... will electricity flow easier through wire (ANY KIND OF WIRE)
, or across an air gap?
Voltage will build up in a coil, until an actual spark is achieved at
the spark plug. The larger the spark plug gap (or any OTHER gap, like
at the mag rotor) is, the higher the voltage will be that is required to
JUMP that gap.
The total resistance is a factor of the wire (very low resistance) and
air gaps (very high resistance).
There is in fact a LIMIT to this, which then brings into discussion coil
saturation, where higher voltage does not occur, but current increases
and so does heat... which leads to coil failure.
So if you have electricity blowing holes through things that they should
not be, start checking GAPS ... ALL THE GAPS! Points, rotors, plugs,
etc. If you suspect you have bad spark plug wires, you can always check
them, but make no mistake that racing wires such as are used in these
kits are better and not worse than what was originally there. The
original Russian wires did indeed have lower resistance end to end, but
they also had very poor insulation and BAD BAD leakage, which amounted
to an overall poorer performance than the new wires you have now.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Timing the Russian mag includes more than just checking to see when the
points open. There is also a rotor setting that must be correct. The
reason I mention this is because of the potential to have too large of a
gap when the mag fires the pulse. Either too large a gap between the
actual mag rotor and the cap contact, or the plugs themselves.
So there are a number of things at issue here.
1. What plugs are you using and what is their exact gap that you have
them set to?
2. Have you set the mag rotor correctly in relationship to the mags
timing (See Dennis Savarese's pictures of how to do that).
3. You replaced your Russian wires with "an automotive wire kit".
Who's? Dennis or Barry's, or was it something you picked up off the
shelf yourself, and if so what exact wires were used?
One statement you made is right on the money.... but not quite
complete. You said: "higher resistance wires and thus causing the
electrons for find a easier path."
Yes, electricity will always find the path of least resistance. It is
unlikely to be the spark plug wires if you used the same wires in both
the left and right mags, and only the left is burning up. That said,
increased spark plug gap will "raise the resistance", as will a rotor
that is too far away from the caps spark plug wire fitting.
Other things that could cause more resistance could relate to how you
managed to put the spark plug wires into the cap.... did you use the
screw in sharp pointed piece and did it penetrate all the new wires
correctly to make a good contact? Is it possible that you have the
POINT GAP in the MAG's POINTS set incorrectly?
Lastly, I would really like to see a picture of how the pencil burned
through the mag cap. Any kind of carbon trail that is not totally
removed from a previous incident will cause it to happen again much
easier. So, it would be a good thing to be able to see the damage with
a picture.
Bottom line, you are correct. If the resistance becomes too high going
to the spark plugs, it is possible for the high voltage to "find"
another path, but there are a lot of things other than the wires
themselves that could cause this.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shinden33
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
All,
My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it
with an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has
burned through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two
weeks ago, causing the mag to ground to the case and quit. The general
consensus is that these are higher resistance wires and thus causing the
electrons for find a easier path.
Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
Scott
Yak-52
--------
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www.defiantco.com
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Doc,
Would extended length of the nasopharynx have an effect?
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 2:24:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
Pappy,
Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.
;^O))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
OMG! Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference with
oxygen flow!!!
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
_brian@lloyd.com_ (mailto:brian@lloyd.com) writes:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <_k7wx@earthlink.net_
(mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net) > wrote:
--> Yak-List message posted by: Warren Hill <_k7wx@earthlink.net_
(mailto:k7wx@earthlink.net) >
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the
Westone system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the
radio. It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking
in many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed
noise reduction headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear
a
helmet.
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and
can keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am
guessing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then
the CEP earphones should work too.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
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They are Buggars when you're trying to dig them out of the back of the canal
with a blunt object ..like a finger! :^O))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Roger Kemp MD <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Pappy,
Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.
;^O))
Doc
Just breathe through your mouth.
But I have had difficulty with a number of in-the-ear-canal transducers
unsealing and coming out. And it does seem to be related to the fact that I
have more hair in my friggin' ears than I do on the top of my head anymore.
And, Doc, I think you meant to say "Boogers," not "Buggars." Just as a hint,
they have to do with opposite ends of the alimentary canal. ;-)
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Brian I have my jet helmet from my air force days can I modify it for use in the
yak? Nels
Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> wrote:
>
>> For clarification-
>> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker?
>>
>
>Yes.
>
>
>> Or just an earplug utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
>>
>
>No.
>
>
>> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to the
>> helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>>
>
>Not bypassing them. They are in parallel. You don't disable the stock
>earspeakers so the helment/headset will continue to work normally without
>the CEP earpieces plugged in.
>
>--
>Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>3191 Western Dr.
>Cameron Park, CA 95682
>brian@lloyd.com
>+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
>+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Roge. increased volume of the canal with increased number of vibrissae per
mm of canal length along with the increased volume of the mass of desiccated
mucous means increased resistance to flow. It really becomes a huge buggar
to extract then! ( AKA The Woolley Booger)
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
Doc,
Would extended length of the nasopharynx have an effect?
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 2:24:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
Pappy,
Vibrissae and desiccated mucus in the nasopharynx will most definitely
decrease O2 flow through the nose. (aka Buggars). I know you knew that.
;^O))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
OMG! Next we'll start talking about nose hair and its interference with
oxygen flow!!!
Pappy
In a message dated 1/9/2012 11:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
brian@lloyd.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Warren Hill <k7wx@earthlink.net> wrote:
Brian,
The Communications & Ear Protection system is what I had before the Westone
system. Did not like it very much. Still had difficulty hearing the radio.
It was touted as having superior noise reduction, but I found it lacking in
many ways at the noise levels we experience in the CJ. My Lightseed noise
reduction headset did a much better job, but would not allow me to wear a
helmet.
Ear hair? You know, as we get older that damed ear hair gets tougher and can
keep the expanding foam earpiece from sealing in the ear canal. I am
guessing that it may be different for different people.
One way to find out is if silicone foam earplugs work. If they do, then the
CEP earphones should work too.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Roger...sigtronics makes a nice mic attachment as well as ear phones. I did my original HGU 55 that way about 10 years ago. Not near the hanger so do not have the parts lists. If you still have your O2 mask, the sigtronics Lectric mic will mount directly in. You need to get the general aviation OHM' d (forgot the exact Ohms- 5?) ear phones. Go to www.gibson-barnes.com and click on helmet communication for the parts you need. They even have the bayonet clip that you can mount you boom mic on and use the bayonet receiver on your helmet without drilling holes in your helmet for the boom mic mount.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nelson Sprague
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
Brian I have my jet helmet from my air force days can I modify it for use in the
yak? Nels
Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> wrote:
>
>> For clarification-
>> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker?
>>
>
>Yes.
>
>
>> Or just an earplug utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
>>
>
>No.
>
>
>> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects
>> to the helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>>
>
>Not bypassing them. They are in parallel. You don't disable the stock
>earspeakers so the helment/headset will continue to work normally
>without the CEP earpieces plugged in.
>
>--
>Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>3191 Western Dr.
>Cameron Park, CA 95682
>brian@lloyd.com
>+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
>+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Gibson-Barnes also has an adapter cable. Assuming you have the standard U-174
connector on the end of your military helmet, you can take out any pre-amp module
that might have been in the O2 mask, and using the stock mike and earpieces,
the adapter cable will match the impedances and you can use it with the original
earpieces and microphone element. It converts the U-174 connector to what
is usually used in general aviation, which is the mono headphone male connector,
and the standard mike plug.. the nomenclature of which I forget! Sorry.
Anyway, I've tried it, it works.... but I'd recommend doing what the folks below
are talking about versus this. Just letting you know it's there.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
Roger...sigtronics makes a nice mic attachment as well as ear phones. I did my original HGU 55 that way about 10 years ago. Not near the hanger so do not have the parts lists. If you still have your O2 mask, the sigtronics Lectric mic will mount directly in. You need to get the general aviation OHM' d (forgot the exact Ohms- 5?) ear phones. Go to www.gibson-barnes.com and click on helmet communication for the parts you need. They even have the bayonet clip that you can mount you boom mic on and use the bayonet receiver on your helmet without drilling holes in your helmet for the boom mic mount.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nelson Sprague
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise)
Brian I have my jet helmet from my air force days can I modify it for use in the
yak? Nels
Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com> wrote:
>
>> For clarification-
>> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker?
>>
>
>Yes.
>
>
>> Or just an earplug utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
>>
>
>No.
>
>
>> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects
>> to the helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>>
>
>Not bypassing them. They are in parallel. You don't disable the stock
>earspeakers so the helment/headset will continue to work normally
>without the CEP earpieces plugged in.
>
>--
>Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>3191 Western Dr.
>Cameron Park, CA 95682
>brian@lloyd.com
>+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
>+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Uneven fuel feed CJ6 |
Happy New Year all
As a new CJ owner I love the aircraft not crazy about the uneven fuel feed
What is the fix/procedure to even this out?
Thank you
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| Subject: | Re: Uneven fuel feed CJ6 |
Keeping the wings level and the ball centered will generally help to keep
the tanks in balance. If, like me, however, you're a bit inattentive,
purchase Bill Blackwell's fuel vent control kit. This allows you to shutoff
the vent to low tank so that the more full tank feeds more rapidly. Works
well.
...Blitz
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:30 PM, bipolar <bushrat@telus.net> wrote:
>
> Happy New Year all
> As a new CJ owner I love the aircraft not crazy about the uneven fuel feed
> What is the fix/procedure to even this out?
> Thank you
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362888#362888
>
>
--
... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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Thanks everyone for your help on this matter. It is much clearer now with s
ome pictures. We can now move forward with confidence. =0A-=0ARegards,=0A
-=0AAnt.
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| Subject: | Re: helmets (Noise) |
Nels,
Yes you can modify it relatively easy.
I purchased a civilian mike & earphones form Gibson/Barnes, then a
converter that plugged into the single plug to two plugs.
Works great.
Laterrrrr
John Fischer
On 1/9/2012 1:11 PM, Nelson Sprague wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Nelson Sprague<nelsprague@hotmail.com>
>
> Brian I have my jet helmet from my air force days can I modify it for use in
the yak? Nels
>
> Brian Lloyd<brian@lloyd.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Herb Coussons<drc@wscare.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> For clarification-
>>> Is the Westone molded earpiece a com speaker?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Or just an earplug utilizing the existing coms of the helmet?
>>>
>>>
>> No.
>>
>>
>>
>>> It appears the CEP option is an in the ear com device that connects to the
>>> helmet coms, bypassing the earcup coms already installed?
>>>
>>>
>> Not bypassing them. They are in parallel. You don't disable the stock
>> earspeakers so the helment/headset will continue to work normally without
>> the CEP earpieces plugged in.
>>
>> --
>> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
>> 3191 Western Dr.
>> Cameron Park, CA 95682
>> brian@lloyd.com
>> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
>> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Uneven fuel feed CJ6 |
Yaw.
In a message dated 1/9/2012 6:33:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bushrat@telus.net writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "bipolar" <bushrat@telus.net>
Happy New Year all
As a new CJ owner I love the aircraft not crazy about the uneven fuel feed
What is the fix/procedure to even this out?
Thank you
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=362888#362888
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| Subject: | Fuel leaking from throat of M14P Carburettor |
Fuel is leaking from the throat of the carb on the M14P in my Yak 55M.
It seems to increase in the colder weather, below 10 deg C (50 deg F).
The drip rate has increased on about 1 drip per second at 5 deg C. Any
ideas as to what could be causing this and the fix? The fuel shut off
valve (obviously) stops the leak when in the off position.
Royden Heays
604-619-0653
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| Subject: | FW: Ignition system resistance |
G'Day All,
This response from my 18T LAME who I have the utmost trust and confidence
in.
Cheers,
Chris.
From: Ivor Paech [mailto:tmo34003@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2012 4:41 PM
Subject: Fw: Ignition system resistance
Chris,
I am not a member of the Yak list so could you please post this on my behalf
?
Thanks,
Ivor
----- Original Message -----
From: Ivor Paech <mailto:tmo34003@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Ignition system resistance
Gentlemen,
A very interesting dialogue on system resistance.
I have had experience with Champion plugs which are fitted with a very high
resistive element inside.
This has caused plug misfiring in an M14P and also in Gipsy Majors.
An interim solution was to remove the small resistive slug in the plug and
replace it with a piece of fencing wire.....Do not get me wrong, I only used
good quality fencing material !
This is not a consistent problem and I suspect it only becomes apparent when
the magneto or leads are not in perfect health.
Your comments would be most welcome...
Ivor Paech FBO
Australia
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| Subject: | Low Resistance Ignition Wires |
What these 8 mm spiro wounded cables also do much better, is transfering the
energy of the high-frequency components in the ignition current.
The low-resistance solid core wires used by the Russians fail to pass these
high frequency currents. That's why at the end Dennis' plug wires deliver
MORE power to the plugs.
To give credit to the Russians: the cables they used originally were always
of very high quality, they were also used in their missile systems. But they
also changed the whole wiring quite regularly.
Jan
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: maandag 9 januari 2012 21:45
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
--> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Just a further comment on this if I may concerning "higher resistance spark
plug wires". Both kits that I have seen (both Dennis's and
Barry's) are using extremely high quality 8mm spark plug wires or larger,
and in addition are "racing" types used in very high performance
automobiles. These systems support firing voltages as high as 45,000 volts
or more without breakdown. Their resistance values will work perfectly with
anything from systems as small as those used on a lawn-mower to those used
in 2000 horsepower racing engines.
Keep in mind that in any ignition system, what determines the actual firing
voltage that the coil actually develops is ultimately a factor of the total
resistance to ground. While wires do have some resistance, of course ...
the actual HUGE resistance comes from AIR GAPS! Common sense applies....
will electricity flow easier through wire (ANY KIND OF WIRE)
, or across an air gap?
Voltage will build up in a coil, until an actual spark is achieved at the
spark plug. The larger the spark plug gap (or any OTHER gap, like at the
mag rotor) is, the higher the voltage will be that is required to JUMP that
gap.
The total resistance is a factor of the wire (very low resistance) and air
gaps (very high resistance).
There is in fact a LIMIT to this, which then brings into discussion coil
saturation, where higher voltage does not occur, but current increases and
so does heat... which leads to coil failure.
So if you have electricity blowing holes through things that they should not
be, start checking GAPS ... ALL THE GAPS! Points, rotors, plugs, etc. If
you suspect you have bad spark plug wires, you can always check them, but
make no mistake that racing wires such as are used in these kits are better
and not worse than what was originally there. The original Russian wires
did indeed have lower resistance end to end, but they also had very poor
insulation and BAD BAD leakage, which amounted to an overall poorer
performance than the new wires you have now.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Timing the Russian mag includes more than just checking to see when the
points open. There is also a rotor setting that must be correct. The
reason I mention this is because of the potential to have too large of a gap
when the mag fires the pulse. Either too large a gap between the actual mag
rotor and the cap contact, or the plugs themselves.
So there are a number of things at issue here.
1. What plugs are you using and what is their exact gap that you have them
set to?
2. Have you set the mag rotor correctly in relationship to the mags timing
(See Dennis Savarese's pictures of how to do that).
3. You replaced your Russian wires with "an automotive wire kit".
Who's? Dennis or Barry's, or was it something you picked up off the shelf
yourself, and if so what exact wires were used?
One statement you made is right on the money.... but not quite complete.
You said: "higher resistance wires and thus causing the
electrons for find a easier path."
Yes, electricity will always find the path of least resistance. It is
unlikely to be the spark plug wires if you used the same wires in both
the left and right mags, and only the left is burning up. That said,
increased spark plug gap will "raise the resistance", as will a rotor that
is too far away from the caps spark plug wire fitting.
Other things that could cause more resistance could relate to how you
managed to put the spark plug wires into the cap.... did you use the screw
in sharp pointed piece and did it penetrate all the new wires correctly to
make a good contact? Is it possible that you have the
POINT GAP in the MAG's POINTS set incorrectly?
Lastly, I would really like to see a picture of how the pencil burned
through the mag cap. Any kind of carbon trail that is not totally removed
from a previous incident will cause it to happen again much easier. So, it
would be a good thing to be able to see the damage with a picture.
Bottom line, you are correct. If the resistance becomes too high going to
the spark plugs, it is possible for the high voltage to "find"
another path, but there are a lot of things other than the wires themselves
that could cause this.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shinden33
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Low Resistance Ignition Wires
All,
My Russian ignition system gave out a few years ago and I replaced it with
an automotive wire kit. Since then the pencil on my left mag has burned
through the mag cap twice, once a year and half ago and once two weeks ago,
causing the mag to ground to the case and quit. The general consensus is
that these are higher resistance wires and thus causing the electrons for
find a easier path.
Anyone have any ideas, experience or insight?
Scott
Yak-52
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