---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/12/12: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:16 AM - Re: helmets (Noise) (Tim Gagnon) 2. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Brian Lloyd) 3. 08:27 AM - Re: Re: helmets (Noise) (Larry Pine) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:45 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise) From: "Tim Gagnon" As an Aerial Gunner on USAF Combat Search and Rescue helicopters, we use CEP's with our 56/P helmets. In our VERY noisey environment, they come in handy but with some limitations. If they are not placed perfectly in your ear, they can start to hurt. The small wire will push against your ear and after a short time, start to cause a "hot spot". Also, the wire has to be managed and is not very stout. The ear cushion has to be replaced every 20 uses or so. They compliment the comm's and can be helpful. Sometimes, I just pull them out and put in ear plugs and crank the volume. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363135#363135 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise) From: Brian Lloyd On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Tim Gagnon wrote: > > As an Aerial Gunner on USAF Combat Search and Rescue helicopters, we use > CEP's with our 56/P helmets. In our VERY noisey environment, they come in > handy but with some limitations. If they are not placed perfectly in your > ear, they can start to hurt. The small wire will push against your ear and > after a short time, start to cause a "hot spot". Also, the wire has to be > managed and is not very stout. The ear cushion has to be replaced every 20 > uses or so. They compliment the comm's and can be helpful. Sometimes, I > just pull them out and put in ear plugs and crank the volume. > Using ear plugs and then cranking up the volume is what the motorcyclists typically do. It gets really noisy inside a motocycle helmet in an 80mph (or faster) breeze. But I like the idea of CEP or something like it (in the ear canal) because active noise reduction does such a poor job attenuating upper midrange and high frequencies. Between shooting and flying (even though I always wear hearing protection) I now have tinnitus. Anything that reduces noise and makes the comm frequencies clearer helps a lot. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:56 AM PST US From: Larry Pine Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise) That's exactly what makes ACCES from Westone great.- They are formed from your own ear and can only fit in one way.- Once installed correctly, the y're no problem. Larry Pine --- On Thu, 1/12/12, Tim Gagnon wrote: From: Tim Gagnon Subject: Yak-List: Re: helmets (Noise) As an Aerial Gunner on USAF Combat Search and Rescue helicopters, we use- CEP's with our 56/P helmets. In our VERY noisey environment, they come in handy but with some limitations. If they are not placed perfectly in your e ar, they can start to hurt. The small wire will push against your ear and a fter a short time, start to cause a "hot spot". Also, the wire has to be ma naged and is not very stout. The ear cushion has to be replaced every 20 us es or so. They compliment the comm's and can be helpful. Sometimes, I just pull them out and put in ear plugs and crank the volume. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=363135#363135 le, List Admin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.