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1. 01:58 AM - Re: Yak elevator (Olivier Vigneron)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: Yak elevator (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 09:44 AM - Re: observations on fuel imbalance discussion (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 01:54 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Didier Blouzard)
5. 05:49 PM - Re: Nanchang MAUW (barryhancock)
6. 05:58 PM - Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (barryhancock)
7. 06:43 PM - Re: Ferry Pilot Yak-52 California to Massachusetts (yak-52@comcast.net)
8. 07:31 PM - Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (Byron Fox)
9. 08:13 PM - Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (barryhancock)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak elevator |
Hi
Here is the Yakovlev
decision:http://www.termikas.com/news/DECISION%20%E2%84%96%20%D0%91-46_52-1
1.doc
And here is the replacement proc=E9dure:
http://www.termikas.com/news/sector%20replacement.pdf
Have nice flights
Olivier
2012/2/21 Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>
> Hi Dennis;
>
> A cracked one was found here a few months back just after the problem was
> first posted on the list. It was found during an inspection generated by
> that information. The list works!
>
> Walt
>
> *From:* A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2012 5:51 PM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> From what I understand Chris, there WAS a Yak 52 where the elevator
> bellcrank cracked at the point where the elevator counterweight is
> mounted. I personally have not seen a cracked elevator bellcrank. But
> that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any out there. The fix is
> replacing the old with a new elevator bellcrank.
>
> The attached information should answer all your questions.
> Dennis
>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese334-285-6263334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1www.yak-52.com
>
>
> On 2/20/2012 4:05 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
> G=92Day Pappy,****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks for that.****
>
> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the reaso
n
> for the crash in New Zealand.****
>
> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?****
>
> ****
>
> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the tail
> sector, is it the elevator bellcrank? ****
>
> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25 hou
r
> inspection schedule due to some failure.****
>
> So what is the problem?****
>
> What is the fix?****
>
> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks and cheers,****
>
> Chris.****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [
> mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com<owner-yak-list-server@matronic
s.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *cjpilot710@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator****
>
> ****
>
> Chris,****
>
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any ki
nd
> of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost certainl
y
> jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for ANYTHING that
> might migrate back there. This would include anything that might fall ou
t
> of one's pockets, particularly during acro. Although this is true of ANY
> airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are "fix's". ****
>
> ****
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby****
>
> ****
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:****
>
> G=92Day All,****
>
> ****
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what
> the fix is.****
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=92s of the problem and the fix if
> anyone has any.****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks and cheers,****
>
> Chris Wise.****
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak elevator |
Hi Walt,
Yes, it most certainly does.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 2/20/2012 9:05 PM, Walter Lannon wrote:
> Hi Dennis;
> A cracked one was found here a few months back just after the problem
> was first posted on the list. It was found during an inspection
> generated by that information. The list works!
> Walt
> *From:* A. Dennis Savarese <mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2012 5:51 PM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
> From what I understand Chris, there WAS a Yak 52 where the elevator
> bellcrank cracked at the point where the elevator counterweight is
> mounted. I personally have not seen a cracked elevator bellcrank.
> But that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any out there. The fix
> is replacing the old with a new elevator bellcrank.
>
> The attached information should answer all your questions.
> Dennis
>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1
> www.yak-52.com
>
> On 2/20/2012 4:05 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>>
>> GDay Pappy,
>>
>> Thanks for that.
>>
>> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the
>> reason for the crash in New Zealand.
>>
>> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?
>>
>> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the
>> tail sector, is it the elevator bellcrank?
>>
>> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25
>> hour inspection schedule due to some failure.
>>
>> So what is the problem?
>>
>> What is the fix?
>>
>> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?
>>
>> Thanks and cheers,
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *cjpilot710@aol.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
>> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks.
>> Any kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will
>> almost certainly jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check
>> regularly for ANYTHING that might migrate back there. This would
>> include anything that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly
>> during acro. Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very
>> susceptible. Are "fix's".
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> wise@txc.net.au <mailto:wise@txc.net.au> writes:
>>
>> GDay All,
>>
>> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator
>> and what the fix is.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate some photos of the problem and the
>> fix if anyone has any.
>>
>> Thanks and cheers,
>>
>> Chris Wise.
>>
>> (Downunder)
>>
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| Subject: | observations on fuel imbalance discussion |
Glad you laughed!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp
M.D.
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: observations on fuel imbalance discussion
<viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Mark,
ROFLMAO
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> I own a UTVA-66 as well as a YAK-50. Obviously the "slipping method"
> does not work on the 50.
>
> However, on the UTVA-66, I can make the fuel gages in either wing read
> whatever I want by slipping the aircraft. I can go from empty to half
> full on either tank simply by stepping on the rudder. Since there is
no
> easy way for huge amounts of fuel to change tanks in 5 seconds, it is
> likely that I am only impacting the readings of the fuel gage.
>
> That said, I have learned a very simple way to determine fuel flow,
and
> the amount left in the tank.
>
> When it becomes very very quiet, the selected tank has no more fuel in
> it.
>
> Works for me.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
> p.s. Yes, I know CJ's and 52's don't have selectable tanks. Sigh
.....
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:42 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: observations on fuel imbalance discussion
>
> Ah, how we love to take sides. :-)
>
> So, while you are busy deciding who is right and who is wrong, please
> consider:
>
> 1. Whether or not we like the person making the posting has no
> effect on the reality of the situation.
> 2. Given the number of variables and unless you have a
> very-well-controlled environment in which you are collecting data,
> in-flight anecdotal "evidence" is always suspect.
> 3. That being said, there are quite a few CJ6A and Yak-52 aircraft
> that respond well to slipping the aircraft slightly in order to favor
> fuel flow from one tank or the other to even out flow, thus implying
> that there is no endemic problem with either the fuel system or vent
> system design. (My own experience is that 100% of the CJ6A and Yak-52
> aircraft that I have flown have responded to this means of evening
fuel
> flow from the tanks but I refer you to item #2 above.)
> 4. Only a rigidly-controlled test is going to determine if a
> particular aircraft has an asymmetric fuel-flow problem.
>
> So, if you think you have a problem I recommend the following:
>
> 1. Inspect your fuel and vent system, replacing old rubber hose and
> cleaning all hard lines. (I suspect some people might have a problem
> with partially pinched rubber flex lines. I know of one aircraft that
> had a small flap of rubber that was partially obstructing a fuel line
> from an improperly-installed fitting.)
> 2. Jack up your plane and meticulously level it.
> 3. Disconnect the fuel line from the header tank at the fuel pump
> inlet and let it drain into a large catch drum at a 1L/min rate
> (equivalent to normal cruise fuel consumption).
> 4. Periodically tap/bang on the header tank to ensure that the
> flapper valves do not stick closed.
> 5. After some period of time determine the actual fuel imbalance.
>
> This will give you good data about your particular aircraft
independent
> of your own flying habits/characteristics.
>
> And I wish everyone on the list a pleasant weekend of flying.
>
> --
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> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
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| Subject: | Re: Yak elevator |
Have a look on the Termikas website and read the elevator discussion
http://www.termikas.com/
you will perhaps find your answer.
Didier
Le 21 f=E9vrier 2012 02:51, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>a =E9crit :
> From what I understand Chris, there WAS a Yak 52 where the elevator
> bellcrank cracked at the point where the elevator counterweight is
> mounted. I personally have not seen a cracked elevator bellcrank. But
> that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any out there. The fix is
> replacing the old with a new elevator bellcrank.
>
> The attached information should answer all your questions.
> Dennis
>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese334-285-6263334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1www.yak-52.com
>
>
> On 2/20/2012 4:05 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
> G=92Day Pappy,****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for that.****
>
> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the reaso
n
> for the crash in New Zealand.****
>
> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?****
>
> ** **
>
> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the tail
> sector, is it the elevator bellcrank? ****
>
> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25 hou
r
> inspection schedule due to some failure.****
>
> So what is the problem?****
>
> What is the fix?****
>
> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks and cheers,****
>
> Chris.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [
> mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com<owner-yak-list-server@matronic
s.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *cjpilot710@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator****
>
> ** **
>
> Chris,****
>
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any ki
nd
> of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost certainl
y
> jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for ANYTHING that
> might migrate back there. This would include anything that might fall ou
t
> of one's pockets, particularly during acro. Although this is true of ANY
> airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are "fix's". ****
>
> ****
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby****
>
> ****
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:****
>
> G=92Day All,****
>
> ** **
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what
> the fix is.****
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=92s of the problem and the fix if
> anyone has any.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks and cheers,****
>
> Chris Wise.****
>
> (Downunder)****
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang MAUW |
First of all, Brian is right, Pappy is no sacred cow....rather a flying legend,
perhaps.
As for fuel imbalance. Since I'm able to effectively trim hands off in my CJ (and
others we restored) with 3 axis electric trim, there is no fuel imbalance.
Since we replumbed my entire aircraft, we made separate vent lines for the left
and right tanks. I don't think this has made a whit of difference, however,
but it was simple to do at the time. So, I do think that the comments about
yaw inducing the fuel feed imbalance are further supported by my experience
(I have stock flopper valves in my header tank).
That being said, I just ferried a CJ for a customer from back east, and by the
time I got it here to Utah I had adjusted the trim tabs to where the fuel imbalance
was less than 10 liters after a 2+ hour flight. So, it can be mitigated
to a certain extent by adjusting the trim tabs.
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... |
....you can have all the functionality of the latest Garmin, and more, with your
iPad. I gotta say, if there were ever a reason to justify an iPad, flying with
the tablet and the ForeFlight app is in many ways more powerful than anything
Garmin offers....for far cheaper and, obviously, is much more versatile.
For years I have used the Garmin GPSs mounted in the cockpits of the various planes
I ferry. Wires everywhere for power and XM weather, cumbersome mount that
always interferes with seeing some instrumentation or switches/knobs, and danged
expensive. I now use the iPad with Fore Flight strapped to my knee using
the Sporty's iPad kneeboard and a blue tooth external GPS antenna. It's as accurate
as anything I've used, much better user interface, all the info you could
ever want overlaid on the moving map (or not), has charts and plates, note
pad, is a superior flight planning tool, files your danged flight plans for you
and might even cook your breakfast - all with a touch, pinch or tap. My all
in cost for this was right around $1000...and I use the iPad for dozens of other
things. In a word, it is awesome.
Happier flying, indeed!
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Re: Ferry Pilot Yak-52 California to Massachusetts |
I have about 80 hours in my Yak-52 and would consider this a once in a lifetime
opportunity. Feel free to contact me if I can assist in this either partway or
more. Am retired Airline with pass rider benefits and buddy pass.
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| Subject: | Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... |
I'm impressed, Barry, that having something as large as an iPad strapped to your
leg doesn't interfere with the stick. Can you comment on this?
Thanks, Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 21, 2012, at 5:57 PM, "barryhancock" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:
>
> ....you can have all the functionality of the latest Garmin, and more, with your
iPad. I gotta say, if there were ever a reason to justify an iPad, flying
with the tablet and the ForeFlight app is in many ways more powerful than anything
Garmin offers....for far cheaper and, obviously, is much more versatile.
>
> For years I have used the Garmin GPSs mounted in the cockpits of the various
planes I ferry. Wires everywhere for power and XM weather, cumbersome mount that
always interferes with seeing some instrumentation or switches/knobs, and
danged expensive. I now use the iPad with Fore Flight strapped to my knee using
the Sporty's iPad kneeboard and a blue tooth external GPS antenna. It's as
accurate as anything I've used, much better user interface, all the info you
could ever want overlaid on the moving map (or not), has charts and plates, note
pad, is a superior flight planning tool, files your danged flight plans for
you and might even cook your breakfast - all with a touch, pinch or tap. My
all in cost for this was right around $1000...and I use the iPad for dozens of
other things. In a word, it is awesome.
>
> Happier flying, indeed!
>
> Barry
>
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> Barry Hancock
> Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
> (877) 869-6458
> www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... |
Blitz,
An iPad in portrait format isn't that much wider than a kneeboard. For cross country
flying it is fine....if you are flying in manner that requires consistent
aggressive movement of the stick, you'd probably find it annoying. My support
for this (these) products is limited to the cross country flying environment.
You can easily twist the iPad to the outboard side, however, if you need
to get it out of the way for that sporting cross wind landing...
Hope this helps,
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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