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1. 02:39 AM - Re: Yak elevator (Etienne Verhellen)
2. 04:19 AM - Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. (Etienne Verhellen)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. (Etienne Verhellen)
4. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 05:55 AM - Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (melrod971)
6. 06:11 AM - Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012 (Etienne Verhellen)
7. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Nanchang MAUW (bill wade)
8. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. (Richard Goode)
9. 07:52 AM - Re: Nanchang MAUW (barryhancock)
10. 08:00 AM - Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012 (Etienne Verhellen)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. (A. Dennis Savarese)
12. 12:09 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/20/12 (Frederick Slyfield)
13. 12:23 PM - Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (Jay Land)
14. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... (Gary Gabbard)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak elevator |
This problem has been known for a while :
Crack in elevator control system pulley - UK CAA MPD : 2000-004 (27 July 2000).
See attachment.
I am surprised Yak-52 pilots are just discovering it now (after the fatal accident
in Russia).
It is a required inspection - annually for Yak-52 maintained under the supervision
of the UK CAA.
There are of course other important Mandatory Permit Directives (MPD) issued by
the UK Civil Aviation Authority for the Yak-52 :
http://www.yakuk.com/MPD.htm
Airframe life limit (confirmed by the Yakovlev Design Bureau) :
http://www.yakuk.com/MPD1998-017R5.pdf
http://www.yakuk.com/MPD2004-006.pdf
Etc ... etc ...
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Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/airframe_overhaul__mandatory_as_yakovlev_design_bureau__yak_52_life_time_bulletin_199.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/crack_in_elevator_control_system_pulley__uk_caa_mpd_nr_2000_004_27_july_2000_608.doc
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. |
My Russian friends have asked me to post this invitation on the Yak-list.
All Yak-52 pilots in the World are cordially invited to the 3rd Yak-52
World Aerobatic Championship (WAC) near Moscow - 23 to 30 June 2012.
http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/pilots-and-teams.html
Kind Regards from the FAI WAYAKC 2012 Team.
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012. |
Sorry, I meant to post this link ... where you get get all the infos
for the 3rd FAI World Aerobatic Championship for Yak-52 pilots :
http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/ 8)
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http://www.flyforfun.be/?q=yaks
http://www.planecheck.com/eu/index.asp?ent=dv&id=6711
http://www.airshowactionphotography.com/san07/page1.html
http://www.irishairpics.com/photo/1029467/L/Yakovlev-Yak-52/G-CBSS/Etienne-Verhellen/
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak |
WAC 2012.
I wonder how all the Yak 52's in Europe are going to get there since, as
I understand it, the Yak 52's are presently grounded? Is that not correct?
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 2/22/2012 6:18 AM, Etienne Verhellen wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Etienne Verhellen"<janie@yak52.fr>
>
> My Russian friends have asked me to post this invitation on the Yak-list.
>
> All Yak-52 pilots in the World are cordially invited to the 3rd Yak-52
> World Aerobatic Championship (WAC) near Moscow - 23 to 30 June 2012.
>
> http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/pilots-and-teams.html
>
> Kind Regards from the FAI WAYAKC 2012 Team.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366955#366955
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Why pay $2000+ for a GPS when... |
Barry/Blitz,
I use the Samsung Galaxy tab 7.0. You would use the Naviator app for the Android
operating system. I find this to be easier than the Ipad due to the built
in GPS and the 7 inch screen. This is no bigger than a DoD approach plate and
I use an instrument leg strap to hold it in place. No stick interference in
my CJ or the navy jets I fly.
Mike Elrod
N368MB
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Mike Elrod
N368MB
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012 |
Hi Dennis !
1. There will be Yak-52 available for rent during the World Championship.
As you can read in Bulletin 1 : (11.)
"Organizer provides competitors with aircraft Yak-52 on the site of the Championship
Organizers provide an airplane for first 3 competitors of each team for free".
http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/assets/files/wayakc-bulletin.pdf
So American Yak-52 pilots are welcome in Russia ! No excuses.
2. Most European countries have grounded "russian registered" Yak-52 with "russian
C. of A."
because as Richard (Goode) explained :
"The simple fact is FLA were NEVER approved to issue Certificates of Airworthiness
and Registrations for anything but amateur built aircraft,
and certainly not for aircraft outside Russia". http://64.81.74.33/viewtopic.php?t=88728&highlight=russian+registration
All this has been discussed "ad nauseam" before ... :
http://64.81.74.33/viewtopic.php?t=82956&highlight=etienne+verhellen
3. I think "russian registrations" with "russian Airworthiness Certificates" issued
by FLA are still accepted in France ... at the moment ...
although they have been declared illegal in ALL other European countries ... !!
http://www.pilotundflugzeug.de/img/red/yak/GroundingRussianDirective.pdf
http://www.yakuk.com/UKreg.asp
http://www.pilotundflugzeug.de/img/red/yak/SchreibenFAAR.pdf
4. Yak-52 registered and maintained under the supervision of the UK Civil Aviation
Authority and Lithuanian CAA are allowed to fly in Europe.
Other National European CAAs are now working to establish requirements
to have Yak-52 registered and issued with legal Airworthiness Certificate.
Regards.
http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/press-release.html
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang MAUW |
How many have flown routinely with say 30 liters in one tank and 0 in the o
ther-the reason-I ask is-will the fuel flow from the 30 liter tank un
til empty or will fuel be trapped towards the outside of the tank? As for m
e when one red light comes on the pucker factor kicks in along with rudder
and shortly there after landing.=0ABill Wade=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0AFrom: barryhancock <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>=0ATo: yak-
list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:47 PM=0ASubject: Y
ck" <bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>=0A=0AFirst of all, Brian is right, Pap
py is no sacred cow....rather a flying legend, perhaps.- =0A=0AAs for fue
l imbalance.- Since I'm able to effectively trim hands off in my CJ (and
others we restored) with 3 axis electric trim, there is no fuel imbalance.
- Since we replumbed my entire aircraft, we made separate vent lines for
the left and right tanks.- I don't think this has made a whit of differen
ce, however, but it was simple to do at the time.- So, I do think that th
e comments about yaw inducing the fuel feed imbalance are further supported
by my experience (I have stock flopper valves in my header tank).=0A=0ATha
t being said, I just ferried a CJ for a customer from back east, and by the
time I got it here to Utah I had adjusted the trim tabs to where the fuel
imbalance was less than 10 liters after a 2+ hour flight.- So, it can be
mitigated to a certain extent by adjusting the trim tabs.=0A=0ABarry=0A=0A-
-------=0ABarry Hancock=0AWorldwide Warbirds, Inc.=0A(877) 869-6458=0Awww.w
orldwidewarbirds.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp:/
/forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366912#366912=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak |
WAC 2012.
No, not correct.
The 52 is not certificated and so does not automaticly get airworthiness
documents from ANY country, UNLESS that country gives specific permission
for it.
The problem is that there is NO uniformity between the countries in Europe
as to what non-certificated planes can fly.
So what has been grounded in MOST [but not all] countries are 50s and 52s
flying on Russian "FLA" registrations.
But they are flying fine in a number of countries.
Richard
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: 22 February 2012 13:14
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI
Yak WAC 2012.
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
I wonder how all the Yak 52's in Europe are going to get there since, as
I understand it, the Yak 52's are presently grounded? Is that not correct?
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 2/22/2012 6:18 AM, Etienne Verhellen wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Etienne Verhellen"<janie@yak52.fr>
>
> My Russian friends have asked me to post this invitation on the Yak-list.
>
> All Yak-52 pilots in the World are cordially invited to the 3rd Yak-52
> World Aerobatic Championship (WAC) near Moscow - 23 to 30 June 2012.
>
> http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/pilots-and-teams.html
>
> Kind Regards from the FAI WAYAKC 2012 Team.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366955#366955
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nanchang MAUW |
I have found that you have to stay ahead of the imbalance from early on in the
flight. As soon as one of the tanks comes off 60, watch every 5 minutes or so
to see when the other one comes off and attempt to keep them balanced with excess
yaw and the fuller wing tank high. You might think this cuts down your TAS
dramatically, but I have found it to only be a couple of knots difference.
Waiting until the tanks are low to fix things is too late...
Happy slipping,
Barry
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Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak WAC 2012 |
> No, not correct.
I guess this is directed at Dennis, Richard. ;-)
Because I did exactly say what you are writing, i.e. :
Yaks (and other aircraft) flying with "FLA registrations ( RA-xxxxK )" and "Airworthiness
Certificates"
issued by FLA have been grounded in ALL European Countries (as far as I understand)
except ... at the moment (?) ... FRANCE ...
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI Yak |
WAC 2012.
Thanks for the clarification Richard. Much appreciated.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com
On 2/22/2012 9:43 AM, Richard Goode wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Richard Goode"<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
>
> No, not correct.
>
> The 52 is not certificated and so does not automaticly get airworthiness
> documents from ANY country, UNLESS that country gives specific permission
> for it.
>
> The problem is that there is NO uniformity between the countries in Europe
> as to what non-certificated planes can fly.
>
> So what has been grounded in MOST [but not all] countries are 50s and 52s
> flying on Russian "FLA" registrations.
>
> But they are flying fine in a number of countries.
>
> Richard
>
> Richard Goode
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
> Sent: 22 February 2012 13:14
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Yak-52 World Aerobatic Championship 2012 - FAI
> Yak WAC 2012.
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> I wonder how all the Yak 52's in Europe are going to get there since, as
> I understand it, the Yak 52's are presently grounded? Is that not correct?
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1
> www.yak-52.com
>
>
> On 2/22/2012 6:18 AM, Etienne Verhellen wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Etienne Verhellen"<janie@yak52.fr>
>>
>> My Russian friends have asked me to post this invitation on the Yak-list.
>>
>> All Yak-52 pilots in the World are cordially invited to the 3rd Yak-52
>> World Aerobatic Championship (WAC) near Moscow - 23 to 30 June 2012.
>>
>> http://wayakc2012.mfavs.ru/pilots-and-teams.html
>>
>> Kind Regards from the FAI WAYAKC 2012 Team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366955#366955
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 02/20/12 |
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To the YakListas:
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> 1. 01:16 PM - Yak elevator (Chris Wise)
> 2. 01:28 PM - Re: Yak elevator (cjpilot710@aol.com)
> 3. 02:06 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Chris Wise)
> 4. 02:07 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Walter Lannon)
> 5. 03:14 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Vic)
> 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Yak elevator (Chris Wise)
> 7. 05:53 PM - Re: Yak elevator (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 8. 06:58 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Chris Wise)
> 9. 07:06 PM - Re: Yak elevator (Walter Lannon)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:16:46 PM PST US
> From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> G'Day All,
>
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what the
> fix is.
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo's of the problem and the fix if
> anyone
> has any.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris Wise.
>
> (Downunder)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 01:28:40 PM PST US
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> Chris,
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any kin
> d of
> foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost certainly ja
> m it.
> Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for ANYTHING that might
> migrate back there. This would include anything that might fall out of on
> e's
> pockets, particularly during acro. Although this is true of ANY airplane,
>
> the Yak is very susceptible. Are "fix's".
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:
>
>
> G=99Day All,
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what
> the fix is.
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the fix
> if
> anyone has any.
> Thanks and cheers,
> Chris Wise.
> (Downunder)
>
>
> (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List)
>
> (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:06:59 PM PST US
> From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> G=99Day Pappy,
>
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the
> reason for the crash in New Zealand.
>
> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?
>
>
> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the tail
> sector, is it the elevator bellcrank?
>
> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25
> hour inspection schedule due to some failure.
>
> So what is the problem?
>
> What is the fix?
>
> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any
> kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost
> certainly jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for
> ANYTHING that might migrate back there. This would include anything
> that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.
> Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are
> "fix's".
>
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:
>
> G=99Day All,
>
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what
> the fix is.
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the
> fix if anyone has any.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris Wise.
>
> (Downunder)
>
>
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> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 02:07:54 PM PST US
> From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> I addition to the =9Cforeign object=9D item there is a
> problem with fatigue cracking of the elevator bellcrank (Yak 52) and
> loss of elevator control. I do not know all the details but believe
> there is an airworthiness directive on the subject. Suggest you contact
> Richard Goode in the UK.
> Walt
>
> From: cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> Chris,
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any
> kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost
> certainly jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for
> ANYTHING that might migrate back there. This would include anything
> that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.
> Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are
> "fix's".
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:
> G=99Day All,
>
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and
> what the fix is.
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the
> fix if anyone has any.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris Wise.
>
> (Downunder)
>
>
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> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:14:20 PM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak elevator
> From: "Vic" <vicmolnar@aol.com>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> this problem is specific for the 52 and and you are running an 18 T ? If I
> remember
> correctly Andrey Gluchov has told me that the replacement items are copied
> in steel to avoid cracks in the elevator aluminium bell cranks. There must
> have
> been a series which was not manufactured according to original design.
>
> Cheers
>
> Vic
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366756#366756
>
>
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> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:34:57 PM PST US
> From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: Yak elevator
>
>
> G'day Vic,
>
> Yes, I am running a 18T.
> I have 2 friends with 52's and they raised the subject with me.
> Plus my LAME has a number of 52's as well as 18's that he looks after and
> is
> also interested in any information on the subject.
> I have been nominated as the gopher to source the info. Bugger is'nt it.
>
> Thanks and cheers,
> Chris.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vic
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 9:43 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak elevator
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> this problem is specific for the 52 and and you are running an 18 T ? If I
> remember correctly Andrey Gluchov has told me that the replacement items
> are
> copied in steel to avoid cracks in the elevator aluminium bell cranks.
> There
> must have been a series which was not manufactured according to original
> design.
>
> Cheers
>
> Vic
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366756#366756
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:53:14 PM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
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> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:58:09 PM PST US
> From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> Thanks Dennis.
>
>
> It is becoming very clear.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
> Savarese
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
>
> >From what I understand Chris, there WAS a Yak 52 where the elevator
> bellcrank cracked at the point where the elevator counterweight is
> mounted. I personally have not seen a cracked elevator bellcrank. But
> that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any out there. The fix is
> replacing the old with a new elevator bellcrank.
>
> The attached information should answer all your questions.
> Dennis
>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1
> www.yak-52.com
>
>
> On 2/20/2012 4:05 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
>
> G=99Day Pappy,
>
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the
> reason for the crash in New Zealand.
>
> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?
>
>
> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the tail
> sector, is it the elevator bellcrank?
>
> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25
> hour inspection schedule due to some failure.
>
> So what is the problem?
>
> What is the fix?
>
> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any
> kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost
> certainly jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for
> ANYTHING that might migrate back there. This would include anything
> that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.
> Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are
> "fix's".
>
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:
>
> G=99Day All,
>
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and what
> the fix is.
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and the
> fix if anyone has any.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris Wise.
>
> (Downunder)
>
>
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> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:06:29 PM PST US
> From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> Hi Dennis;
>
> A cracked one was found here a few months back just after the problem
> was first posted on the list. It was found during an inspection
> generated by that information. The list works!
>
> Walt
>
> From: A. Dennis Savarese
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
> >From what I understand Chris, there WAS a Yak 52 where the elevator
> bellcrank cracked at the point where the elevator counterweight is
> mounted. I personally have not seen a cracked elevator bellcrank. But
> that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any out there. The fix is
> replacing the old with a new elevator bellcrank.
>
> The attached information should answer all your questions.
> Dennis
>
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
> Skype: Yakguy1
> www.yak-52.com
> On 2/20/2012 4:05 PM, Chris Wise wrote:
> G=99Day Pappy,
>
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> I am fully aware of foreign objects and I believe that that was the
> reason for the crash in New Zealand.
>
> Was it a screwdriver that jammed the elevator?
>
>
> What I am trying to determine, is as I understand, a problem in the
> tail sector, is it the elevator bellcrank?
>
> I was told on Sunday that the Yaks tailplanes are now subject to a 25
> hour inspection schedule due to some failure.
>
> So what is the problem?
>
> What is the fix?
>
> Does anyone have any photographs relating to this?
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 7:58 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak elevator
>
>
> Chris,
>
> I assure you are referring to some crashes. There are very close
> clearances of control horns to air frame in the tail of the Yaks. Any
> kind of foreign object that happen to get into that area, will almost
> certainly jam it. Therefore it behooves one to check regularly for
> ANYTHING that might migrate back there. This would include anything
> that might fall out of one's pockets, particularly during acro.
> Although this is true of ANY airplane, the Yak is very susceptible. Are
> "fix's".
>
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 4:16:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wise@txc.net.au writes:
>
> G=99Day All,
>
>
> Can someone please advise of the problem with the Yak elevator and
> what the fix is.
>
> I would greatly appreciate some photo=99s of the problem and
> the fix if anyone has any.
>
>
> Thanks and cheers,
>
> Chris Wise.
>
> (Downunder)
>
>
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Barry
What do you use to get XM weather on the ipad?
Thx, Jay
>
> ....you can have all the functionality of the latest Garmin, and more, with
> your iPad. I gotta say, if there were ever a reason to justify an iPad,
> flying with the tablet and the ForeFlight app is in many ways more powerful
> than anything Garmin offers....for far cheaper and, obviously, is much more
> versatile.
>
> For years I have used the Garmin GPSs mounted in the cockpits of the various
> planes I ferry. Wires everywhere for power and XM weather, cumbersome mount
> that always interferes with seeing some instrumentation or switches/knobs, and
> danged expensive. I now use the iPad with Fore Flight strapped to my knee
> using the Sporty's iPad kneeboard and a blue tooth external GPS antenna. It's
> as accurate as anything I've used, much better user interface, all the info
> you could ever want overlaid on the moving map (or not), has charts and
> plates, note pad, is a superior flight planning tool, files your danged flight
> plans for you and might even cook your breakfast - all with a touch, pinch or
> tap. My all in cost for this was right around $1000...and I use the iPad for
> dozens of other things. In a word, it is awesome.
>
> Happier flying, indeed!
>
> Barry
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Mike. Gary Gabbard in LAS. CJ N22YK. Would please send me the complete name
and version number for the navigation app you are using. And maybe the site you
downloaded it from. As I have been considering purchasing the Samsung Galaxy.
Thanks. Gary. ggg6@att.net
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 22, 2012, at 5:53, "melrod971" <melrod971@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Barry/Blitz,
>
> I use the Samsung Galaxy tab 7.0. You would use the Naviator app for the Android
operating system. I find this to be easier than the Ipad due to the built
in GPS and the 7 inch screen. This is no bigger than a DoD approach plate and
I use an instrument leg strap to hold it in place. No stick interference in
my CJ or the navy jets I fly.
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