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1. 04:47 AM - Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Harv)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Richard Hess)
3. 12:07 PM - Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Harv)
4. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Brian Lloyd)
5. 01:37 PM - Voltage Regulator Replacement (Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer)
6. 02:03 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (George Coy)
7. 02:34 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
8. 02:34 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
9. 02:47 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer)
10. 02:47 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (George Coy)
11. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: g-meter for sale (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Richard Hess)
13. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
14. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
15. 04:35 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Brian Lloyd)
16. 06:19 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Didier Blouzard)
17. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Sam Sax)
18. 06:53 PM - Re: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement (Sam Sax)
19. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: CJ-7 Pictures (Richard Hess)
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-7 Pictures |
Oooah, tell us some more about the finer details of the CJ-6g :)
Many differences to the CJ-6a?
Rgs
Harv
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-7 Pictures |
Well, I can't speak to the structural improvements but the aircraft was imp
orted to Victoria Air Maintenance about 10 years ago. Joe Howse did the fli
ght tests of the HS-6K engine (400 hp) and new three bladed prop. I would a
verage 155-160 KTAS on 17 gph at 60% power, faaster if I so chose.
There is a good size utility locker behind the space where the normal bagga
ge compartment is located. In most other ways it is identical to the CJ-6A.
I had Victoria do lots of upgrades: gear warning system, Sapp's inboard fu
el tanks, full Garmin IFR package with Shadin and TruTrak A/P. An ADI out o
f a fighter. The engine was particularly smooth and powerful.
About 6 months ago the engine came to a clattering, frozen stop just prior
to takeoff. Number 4 piston rod broke. I'd had hydraulic locks from it sitt
ing from time to time but had always cleared the lock prior to start. So, w
ith about 750 hours since new I needed a new engine. I had bought a freshly
overhauled M-14P in the hopes that it would be more supportable long term.
We took the wings off and put the airplane on an 18 wheeler to truck it to
my facility, International Jets.
The trucker did not follow our directions and ended up in a location where
he had to make a very tight right turn, ran the trailer up on a curb and hi
t my airplane's horizontal tail on a pole. The damage was significant and m
y insurance company totaled the aircraft. I bought the salvage and we are i
n the process of rebuilding Mongoose. She will fly again this year.
Cheers
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
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From: Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:48 am
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Oooah, tell us some more about the finer details of the CJ-6g :)
Many differences to the CJ-6a?
Rgs
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-7 Pictures |
Richard
Wow, thats a story and a half.... Sounds great but what a shame the aircraft was
hydraulic locked and the truck driver smashed it!
Hope you manage to get the damaged fixed and flying again.
Do you have any details as to how the Chinese extracted 400hp from the Housai?
I don't suppose you still have that engine you might consider selling for a rebuild?
I'd be interested in it.
Rgs
Harv
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-7 Pictures |
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012, Harv wrote:
> >
>
> Do you have any details as to how the Chinese extracted 400hp from the
MMO in both the fuel and the oil. Pay no attention to the boost and RPM
increases. They have nothing to do with it.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator Replacement |
Gentlemen (-women),
finally I have received good news from
Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
protection) what might be fit to replace
the obsolete Nanchang and YAK regulator.
For your information I have attached 2
pdf files.
If we get enough interest we could
save some money in placing a
collective/joint order, what do you
think?
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator Replacement |
Interesting, I see two problems. First it is only good to 50 amps and our
gernerators are rated higher than that. Second, the 1 off cost is almost as
much as a replacement alternator with regulator.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar & Manuela
Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:34 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
Gentlemen (-women),
finally I have received good news from
Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
protection) what might be fit to replace the obsolete Nanchang and YAK
regulator.
For your information I have attached 2
pdf files.
If we get enough interest we could
save some money in placing a
collective/joint order, what do you
think?
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator Replacement |
Actually, there is nothing really wrong with the current Russian design,
and I like it myself because I understand it and can work with it. That
said, this unit would replace the TOTAL current electrical design, to
include not only the voltage pile regulator, but also the over-voltage
unit, along with the 200 "Combined Relay" device, although you might
want to keep the bucking transformer that would still be in there.
Our generators are in fact rated to about 100 amps, so the voltage
regulator described here would not allow the generator to develop full
output. That said, there are not too many people that are going to need
100 amps at 28 volts DC. That is one heck of a lot of current! But,
that's just one small point, there are more important ones to consider.
What you would be left with when doing this conversion would be a
Russian Generator (very old design) with a very modern ... and very
expensive .... control device. As long as the new unit was 100%
reliable with a good reputation for low failure rate, and as long as
Russian generators remain cheap, this might be an alternative worth
considering.
BUT!!!!!
Personally, I have now installed a number of B&C SK-35 and SK-50
alternators. You are looking at about the same price (plus or minus a
little) and you are getting not only a new LS1A voltage regulator, but
you are also getting a brand new 35 or 50 amp alternator. This
alternator is carefully built and balanced and does not have the
complexity of the generator, needing reverse current protection, etc.
Alternators are simply (in my opinion) a superior design as compared to
old generators.
I have no experience on converting CJ designs to B&C alternators, but
for the YAKS, if I am going to pull all this old junk out anyway, I
would strongly prefer the B&C alternators, versus keeping the existing
Russian generator and then using a $975 regulator.
Agreed that the price comes WAY down if you buy a bundle of them.
Just my 2 cents, appreciate the info very much.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar &
Manuela Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 13:34
Subject: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
Gentlemen (-women),
finally I have received good news from
Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
protection) what might be fit to replace the obsolete Nanchang and YAK
regulator.
For your information I have attached 2
pdf files.
If we get enough interest we could
save some money in placing a
collective/joint order, what do you
think?
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator Replacement |
I missed it. What was the cost?
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Coy
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 13:59
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
Interesting, I see two problems. First it is only good to 50 amps and
our
gernerators are rated higher than that. Second, the 1 off cost is almost
as
much as a replacement alternator with regulator.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar &
Manuela
Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:34 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
Gentlemen (-women),
finally I have received good news from
Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
protection) what might be fit to replace the obsolete Nanchang and YAK
regulator.
For your information I have attached 2
pdf files.
If we get enough interest we could
save some money in placing a
collective/joint order, what do you
think?
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
George,
I have some questions regarding
your alternator conversion.
Is it rated for the same ambient
temperature in the engine compartment
as the original generator?
Are the installation costs of the whole
alternator system less than compared
to the replacement of a single voltage
regulator?
Can your alternation conversion be installed
with complying to the rules of authorities
in any other country but the US? Wouldn't
it require expensive LSTCs, e.g. in Canada?
Would your alternator conversion affect
the C of G of the aircraft outside of the
envelope?
Is your alternator solution more
reliable than the original generator?
Could you please post the spec sheet
what stipulates that the YAK 52 generator
has more than 50 Amps output.
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator Replacement |
I forgot to mention that we have a draft service bulletin that was generated
for Yak Design bureau to "officially" replace the Yak-52 generator system
with the 50 amp alternator and regulator. Also saves about 30 lbs. I can
post a copy if anyone is interested. The Yak design bureau went in to
oblivion just as we were developing this.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich, Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
--> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Actually, there is nothing really wrong with the current Russian design, and
I like it myself because I understand it and can work with it. That said,
this unit would replace the TOTAL current electrical design, to include not
only the voltage pile regulator, but also the over-voltage unit, along with
the 200 "Combined Relay" device, although you might want to keep the bucking
transformer that would still be in there.
Our generators are in fact rated to about 100 amps, so the voltage regulator
described here would not allow the generator to develop full output. That
said, there are not too many people that are going to need
100 amps at 28 volts DC. That is one heck of a lot of current! But,
that's just one small point, there are more important ones to consider.
What you would be left with when doing this conversion would be a Russian
Generator (very old design) with a very modern ... and very expensive ....
control device. As long as the new unit was 100% reliable with a good
reputation for low failure rate, and as long as Russian generators remain
cheap, this might be an alternative worth considering.
BUT!!!!!
Personally, I have now installed a number of B&C SK-35 and SK-50
alternators. You are looking at about the same price (plus or minus a
little) and you are getting not only a new LS1A voltage regulator, but you
are also getting a brand new 35 or 50 amp alternator. This alternator is
carefully built and balanced and does not have the complexity of the
generator, needing reverse current protection, etc.
Alternators are simply (in my opinion) a superior design as compared to old
generators.
I have no experience on converting CJ designs to B&C alternators, but for
the YAKS, if I am going to pull all this old junk out anyway, I would
strongly prefer the B&C alternators, versus keeping the existing Russian
generator and then using a $975 regulator.
Agreed that the price comes WAY down if you buy a bundle of them.
Just my 2 cents, appreciate the info very much.
Mark Bitterlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar & Manuela
Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 13:34
Subject: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
Gentlemen (-women),
finally I have received good news from
Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
protection) what might be fit to replace the obsolete Nanchang and YAK
regulator.
For your information I have attached 2
pdf files.
If we get enough interest we could
save some money in placing a
collective/joint order, what do you
think?
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | RE: g-meter for sale |
Richard, I enjoy a full mailbox as an indication of my notoriety, versus
my popularity! :-)
Roger on your comments. I get it.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 0:23
Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: g-meter for sale
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Mark, you might enjoy a full mail-box as an indication of popularity,
but if
you do sell your 50,is there a chance that you might sell it as an
aircraft,
BUT if as a collection of parts, it would be great if you could avoid
selling them item by item!!
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
Mark G
CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
Sent: 02 April 2012 23:34
Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: g-meter for sale
--> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Richard, if I ever sell my YAK-50, ..... you will be amazed at the
number of
emails I generate my friend. :-)
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:22
Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: g-meter for sale
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Hi Elmar,
I have no problem with your posting something relevant you want to sell,
but
it seemed that you are selling an entire aircraft, and were listing it
part
by part!!
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar &
Manuela
Hegenauer
Sent: 02 April 2012 15:51
Subject: Yak-List: RE: g-meter for sale
--> <samira.h@shaw.ca>
Richard, Didier, thank you for pointing
that out. You are absolutely right, the
list is not for selling things but provide valuable information to
fellow
pilots.
I will not clog the list anymore with
parts sale and move on to ebay.
Thanks again and Blue Skies.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-7 Pictures |
Harv,
Feel free to contact me off line.
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
-----Original Message-----
From: Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:48 am
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Oooah, tell us some more about the finer details of the CJ-6g :)
Many differences to the CJ-6a?
Rgs
arv
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
I am not George. Sorry. I know that.
However, the original generator is spec'ed to as I remember 3KW output. Take 3000
and divide it by output voltage and that is the maximum current. 100 amps
is darn close.
That is only with full cooling air flow applied to the generator. If you do not
supply cooling air, rated output drops to about 20-25 amps or so. Specs can
be found in any M-14P Operational manual and they are available on-line to anyone
that wants to go look.
Interesting question regarding Canada.
Mark Bitterlich
Never mind, I looked them up for you. Here are your specs.
GENERATOR GSR-3000M, SERIES 4 - DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
2.2. SPECIFICATIONS
Voltage ........................................................ .......................................28.5
V
Power (at 30 V) ................................................ ...................................3
kW
Load current ...............................................................................100
A
Speed of rotation .............................................. ..................................4000
to 9000 r/min
Duty ........................................................... .........................................Continuous
Permissible overloads:
Permissible current at 5000 to 8000 r/min during 1 min ......................150
A
Permissible current at 5600 to 8000 r/min during 5 a ......... ................200
A
Permissible load current without air blowing for 15 min ...... ...............30A
Nominal speed of rotation at load of 100 A and voltage
of 28.5 V with short shunt (without regulator)
when warmed up ............................................... .................................Up
to 3600 r/min
Forced cooling is carried out by blowing with on-coming non-heated clean air.
Total air pressure at cooling inlet duct with dynamic
pressure at least 50 mm HnO .......... ...................................................At
least 150 mm HpO
Air flow rate at barometric pressure of 760 mm Hg .............................
At least 35 dm /s
Mass ......................................................... ..........................................Up
to 11.6 kg
Winding resistance at 20 C:
Armature winding ............................................. ...................................0.024
ohm_M 0 %
Fie Id winding ................................................ .....................................2.20
ohms^6 %
Interpole winding ............................................ ....................................0.0122
ohm
Brushes:
Make ......................................................... ..........................................MGS-7I
Number ................................................................................................8
pea
Overall dimensions ........................................... ..................................7.2x12x25
mm
Generator offers trouble-free operation when exposed to the following environmental
and mechanical
effects:
Relative humidity . ................................................................................Up
to 98 %
Temperature variations .......................................................................From
minus 60 to 50 C
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 14:45
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement
George,
I have some questions regarding
your alternator conversion.
Is it rated for the same ambient
temperature in the engine compartment
as the original generator?
Are the installation costs of the whole
alternator system less than compared
to the replacement of a single voltage
regulator?
Can your alternation conversion be installed
with complying to the rules of authorities
in any other country but the US? Wouldn't
it require expensive LSTCs, e.g. in Canada?
Would your alternator conversion affect
the C of G of the aircraft outside of the
envelope?
Is your alternator solution more
reliable than the original generator?
Could you please post the spec sheet
what stipulates that the YAK 52 generator
has more than 50 Amps output.
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
By the way:
http://www.acroyak.net/img/M14PMotordescription.PDF
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar &
Manuela Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 14:45
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement
<samira.h@shaw.ca>
George,
I have some questions regarding
your alternator conversion.
Is it rated for the same ambient
temperature in the engine compartment
as the original generator?
Are the installation costs of the whole
alternator system less than compared
to the replacement of a single voltage
regulator?
Can your alternation conversion be installed
with complying to the rules of authorities
in any other country but the US? Wouldn't
it require expensive LSTCs, e.g. in Canada?
Would your alternator conversion affect
the C of G of the aircraft outside of the
envelope?
Is your alternator solution more
reliable than the original generator?
Could you please post the spec sheet
what stipulates that the YAK 52 generator
has more than 50 Amps output.
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E wrote:
> MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil <javascript:;>>
>
>
> What you would be left with when doing this conversion would be a
> Russian Generator (very old design) with a very modern ... and very
> expensive .... control device. As long as the new unit was 100%
> reliable with a good reputation for low failure rate, and as long as
> Russian generators remain cheap, this might be an alternative worth
> considering.
>
> BUT!!!!!
>
>
> Personally, I have now installed a number of B&C SK-35 and SK-50
> alternators. You are looking at about the same price (plus or minus a
> little) and you are getting not only a new LS1A voltage regulator, but
> you are also getting a brand new 35 or 50 amp alternator. This
> alternator is carefully built and balanced and does not have the
> complexity of the generator, needing reverse current protection, etc.
> Alternators are simply (in my opinion) a superior design as compared to
> old generators.
Amen. The advantages of the alternator, i.e. reduced weight, reduced
complexity, increased performance, and increased reliability, completely
outweigh trying to repair a failed generator system.
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
George
I would appreciate a copy of it please as we are building our
airworthiness. It would be interesting to include such modification in it.
Thanks a lot
Didier
Le 4 avril 2012 23:42, George Coy <george.coy@gmail.com> a =E9crit :
>
> I forgot to mention that we have a draft service bulletin that was
> generated
> for Yak Design bureau to "officially" replace the Yak-52 generator system
> with the 50 amp alternator and regulator. Also saves about 30 lbs. I can
> post a copy if anyone is interested. The Yak design bureau went in to
> oblivion just as we were developing this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bitterlich,
> Mark G
> CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:30 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
>
> --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> Actually, there is nothing really wrong with the current Russian design,
> and
> I like it myself because I understand it and can work with it. That said
,
> this unit would replace the TOTAL current electrical design, to include n
ot
> only the voltage pile regulator, but also the over-voltage unit, along wi
th
> the 200 "Combined Relay" device, although you might want to keep the
> bucking
> transformer that would still be in there.
>
> Our generators are in fact rated to about 100 amps, so the voltage
> regulator
> described here would not allow the generator to develop full output. Tha
t
> said, there are not too many people that are going to need
> 100 amps at 28 volts DC. That is one heck of a lot of current! But,
> that's just one small point, there are more important ones to consider.
>
>
> What you would be left with when doing this conversion would be a Russian
> Generator (very old design) with a very modern ... and very expensive ...
.
> control device. As long as the new unit was 100% reliable with a good
> reputation for low failure rate, and as long as Russian generators remain
> cheap, this might be an alternative worth considering.
>
> BUT!!!!!
>
>
> Personally, I have now installed a number of B&C SK-35 and SK-50
> alternators. You are looking at about the same price (plus or minus a
> little) and you are getting not only a new LS1A voltage regulator, but yo
u
> are also getting a brand new 35 or 50 amp alternator. This alternator is
> carefully built and balanced and does not have the complexity of the
> generator, needing reverse current protection, etc.
> Alternators are simply (in my opinion) a superior design as compared to o
ld
> generators.
>
> I have no experience on converting CJ designs to B&C alternators, but for
> the YAKS, if I am going to pull all this old junk out anyway, I would
> strongly prefer the B&C alternators, versus keeping the existing Russian
> generator and then using a $975 regulator.
>
> Agreed that the price comes WAY down if you buy a bundle of them.
>
> Just my 2 cents, appreciate the info very much.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar & Manuela
> Hegenauer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 13:34
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Voltage Regulator Replacement
>
> Gentlemen (-women),
>
> finally I have received good news from
> Zeftronics. They are offering a solid
> state voltage regulator (with overvoltage
> protection) what might be fit to replace the obsolete Nanchang and YAK
> regulator.
>
> For your information I have attached 2
> pdf files.
>
> If we get enough interest we could
> save some money in placing a
> collective/joint order, what do you
> think?
>
> cheers
>
> Elmar
>
>
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Hi Richard,
I would welcome your response to Harv questions here, on the List. I am
pretty sure many of us would love to read your comments and it is the kind
of information the List was created for.
Thanks for considering this,
Sam Sax
CJ-6A
Miami, FL
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hess
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Harv,
Feel free to contact me off line.
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
-----Original Message-----
From: Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:48 am
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Oooah, tell us some more about the finer details of the CJ-6g :)
Many differences to the CJ-6a?
Rgs
Harv
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement |
Hi Elmar,
I installed the B&C K-35 amp Alternator on my CJ-6A (M-14P engine, Whirlwind
Prop) about ten years ago - LOVE it! It comes with the Regulator as Mark
indicated and cost is about $1K for the complete system.
No problem with engine compartment temps. Naturally it was designed to
operate in that temp range.
Removal of old Generator and installing new Alternator took 35 minutes.
Cutting out and throwing away old regulator/filter and wiring another 30
minutes. Installing the Voltage regulator and new wiring including to the
light in cockpit - 3 hours.
Installing the B&C Alternator and Regulator saved a net 27 pounds.
Definitely affected CG... Since I removed about 160 pounds of old radios
from
The compartment behind the rear seat, the Alternator net weight savings
actually helped as I needed to put less Lead weight in the tail cone...
Old generator known to be very reliable - my 10 years with the B&C
Alternator pointing to a similar conclusion...
As to paperwork for the Alternator conversion outside the U.S - I don't
know...
My two cents (5 cents now adjusted for inflation)... :-)
Sam Sax
CJ-6A
Miami, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Elmar & Manuela
Hegenauer
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:45 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Voltage Regulator Replacement
--> <samira.h@shaw.ca>
George,
I have some questions regarding
your alternator conversion.
Is it rated for the same ambient
temperature in the engine compartment
as the original generator?
Are the installation costs of the whole
alternator system less than compared
to the replacement of a single voltage
regulator?
Can your alternation conversion be installed with complying to the rules of
authorities in any other country but the US? Wouldn't it require expensive
LSTCs, e.g. in Canada?
Would your alternator conversion affect
the C of G of the aircraft outside of the envelope?
Is your alternator solution more
reliable than the original generator?
Could you please post the spec sheet
what stipulates that the YAK 52 generator has more than 50 Amps output.
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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Sam,
I thought I did tell you guys about the CJ-6G. The biggeediff was the engin
e. Extremely smooth. 160 KTAS on 60% power. With 82 gallons of gas I could
do about 600 nm. I seemed to leave normal CJs and Yaks behind above 5000 ft
. I usually cruised with them at 50% power, 125 KIAS on 12 gph.
I know the M-14P I'll put in it now won't be quite so smooth or powerful bu
t I really wanted something more supportable. My biggest thanks go to the g
uy who arranged for my replacement tail parts, and Doug Sapp for everything
CJ. Without those guys reaching back into China was going to be expensive
and months of delay.
Hope this answers your questions. I really like my MOngoose and can't wait
to have it flying again.
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Sax <cd001633@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 9:29 pm
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Hi Richard,
I would welcome your response to Harv questions here, on the List
I am pretty sure many of us would love to read your comments and it is the
kind of information the List was created for
Thanks for considering this,
Sam Sax
CJ-6A
Miami, FL
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Hess
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Harv,
Feel free to contact me off line.
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
-----Original Message-----
From: Harv <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 4, 2012 7:48 am
Subject: Yak-List: Re: CJ-7 Pictures
Oooah, tell us some more about the finer details of the CJ-6g :)
Many differences to the CJ-6a?
Rgs
Harv
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