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1. 01:12 AM - Re: Tragic loss in Tx (Jan Mevis)
2. 09:49 AM - Re: Tragic loss in Tx (Brian Lloyd)
3. 11:48 AM - flying movie (Brian Lloyd)
4. 06:20 PM - Re: Tragic loss in Tx (Roger Kemp M.D.)
5. 08:58 PM - Premo Yak 52 for sale (Dee Conger)
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| Subject: | Tragic loss in Tx |
Yesterday, a very good friend crashed in his helicopter while taking a professional
photographer for a photoshoot. He touched the cables of an aerial tramway.
This pilot was probably one of the most experienced helicopter pilots in my country,
retired military helicopter pilot with a lot of missions in Somalia, Congo,
the Balkan.
He had his own school, and he was a very diligent and correct person and teacher.
As Doc describes, we all would like to know what happened exactly in such cases
but maybe we'll never know for sure. We have to wait patiently for answers and
certainly not start speculating.
What is more important: the grief and pain of the mourning family and friends.
I'll have to do with the great memories of past times spent with Jean-Yves.
Jan
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp M.D.
Sent: zaterdag 7 april 2012 6:42
Subject: Yak-List: Tragic loss in Tx
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Having served in and around AF/ANG fighter squadrons for 28 of my 32 1/2 years
of service as well as being a Safety Investigation Board member (SIB) on 10 different
class A aircraft accidents there is a pat process that takes place over
the thirty day investigation process. Every effort is made to respect the family
during their time of loss. Saying that however there is also an expected
flow of information from the board president to the ACC commander and Safety (
then it was TAC headquarters). An 8 hour report,, a 72 hour report, 7 day, 14
day, 21 day were released for dissemination to the squadrons. The final 30 day
report was delivered in person by the board president to the CC of TAC. That
report explored all of the aspects of the accident.
My point is information flowed to the individual squadrons' safety officers and
hence the pilots around the world. Why? To help each squadron and each pilot
learn from the facts of the accident ( mistakes and/or correct actions taken by
the accident pilot along with any mechanical findings). Human factors and mechanical
findings were released. Feelings were checked at the door. The facts
were given without editorial comment. An asset and a pilot was lost to injury
or was dead so information needed to be released so the squadrons could learn
from the mistakes of others.
The thing I HATE about the FAA's process is information is seldom released and
the damned investigation takes a year to complete. When it is completed one has
to filter through tons of minutiae to find an answer.
So for now check the touchy feelie PC feelings and state the facts. As it stands
right now a F9F is a pile of useless burnt metal after becoming a smoking hole.
Did the pilot do a snap roll on take off and auger in? Rumor...Yes I said
rumor...says he did. Fact...he is dead and his family is grieving. The other
fact is we do not have a clue as to why he boxed. Just rumors.
So, shut the F#% up and Wait on the painfully slow bureaucratic FAA to grind their
way through this investigation. Maybe this time next year we will have an
answer as to why this pilot and aircraft was lost.
Bet you thought I was going to blame the dead man didn't you? Not yet! I can only
speculate for now so I'll shut the F#% up.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic loss in Tx |
Aviation is not particularly unsafe, but it is terribly unforgiving. Y'all
be careful out there.
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Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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I am sure many of you have seen this, but for those of you who haven't, it
is worth watching. Nearly an hour long. Put your computer into full-screen
mode and enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvtQ3g0ELuE
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Re: Tragic loss in Tx |
Roger that ,Brian. I had that very though as I lit the fire to do a FCF afte
r completing the condition inspection. Said the fighter pilots prayer before
T.O. "Please Lord don't let me F#%=82=AC up."
Happy Easter Y'all,
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 7, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> wrote:
> Aviation is not particularly unsafe, but it is terribly unforgiving. Y'all
be careful out there.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> brian@lloyd.com
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
> +1.916.877.5067 (USA)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Premo Yak 52 for sale |
All - just posted my 52 for sale - beautiful bird w/ long range tanks, LP
Aero Malcolm hoods on both cockpits, and ~690 TT, 245 SMOH. Contact me off
list, or give me a ring - 858.243.4354. Here is the ebay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yak-52-1988-690-TT-245-SMOH-Long-Range-Tanks-One-Of-Best-In-Country-/170821050025?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item27c5ba5ea9#ht_500wt_1182
Dee Conger
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