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2. 07:03 AM - Re: (Bill Geipel)
3. 07:34 AM - Re: (Roger Kemp MD)
4. 08:33 AM - Re: Surging engine: CJ6A - HS6A (jetjockey)
5. 02:06 PM - Re: (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
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-----Original Message-----
>From: William Halverson <william@netpros.net>
>Sent: Apr 12, 2012 1:01 AM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>
>
>It occurs to me that both sides are right ... after all, we want to fly
>like we want to as long as we can, right?
>
>The question is how to do that, given we now live in a nation that is
>one vote away from forcing us all to buy health care insurance. Recall
>it's the same nation that gave the FAA the authority to regulate the
>airways and airman privileges within states - something the framers
>would have found .... extreme.
>
>Marks' point harks back to the framers, too: hang together or hang
>separately.
>
>I recall hearing Denver died because his a/c had a weird tank switch in
>it and while switching tanks he augered in. So damn sad. Could be the
>Bearcat death may have some such explanation.
>
>Until we get the facts, I'll vote for hanging together ... and after
>that, too.
>
>William Halverson
>YAK55
>
>
>On 4/11/2012 8:32 PM, Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
>64E wrote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E"<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>>
>> You're absolutely right Doc (and Richard too). It would probably be a good
idea to petition the FAA to prohibit Experimental Exhibition Catagory aircraft
from participating in Aerobatic Competition. Also in Aerobatic Practice. Also
from Formation Flying. Also in Airshow Flying. Also in any aerobatics below
1500 feet. Also in Air Racing. Safe operation of our aircraft should always
be at the top of our list of actions we take before and during flight operations.
These is no need to take these kinds of risks. People that take the kinds
of risks mentioned above that get involved in any kind of accident might
very well F#%K it up for me, and that is simply unacceptable.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Roger Kemp M.D.
>> Sent: Wed 4/11/2012 10:44 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>> We in the colonies really are damned lucky to have the experimental show category.
Safe operation of our aircraft should always be at the top of our list
of actions we take before and during our flight operations. We live and fly in
a self cleaning oven that proves every so often that rules can be broken or bent
but the laws of physics are laws that can never be broken. It does not matter
how old or how experienced we are. If you break the laws of physics then be
prepared to pay the ultimate price. If that happens, the self cleaning oven
will have claimed another.
>> There are bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old bold pilots.
Its' your ass bust it if you like but don't F#%EUR it up for me.
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:53 AM, "Richard Goode"<richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark, I am sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. IF you were flying
your Yak in total isolation in some strange country with no aviation control,
then, you might be right, and in those circumstances it would not particularly
matter how you fly, or, indeed, if you decided to destroy the aeroplane and
kill yourself. However, you don't, and what you do with your aeroplane inevitably
affects all of us.
>>
>>
>>
>> The first simple fact is is that Yaks do not have a great safety record, to
an extent because of the way that they are flown; to an extent poor maintenance,
but insurance is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain, and if Yaks generally
have a poor safety record, then it could be impossible to insure, and
in Europe that means impossible to fly - I suspect that would the same in the
US.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again you will be aware of certification and registration issues in Europe,
and today there is no long-term solution to fly Yak-50 and 52 in Germany; France;
Holland; Belgium, and other countries. These aircraft are not certificated,
and the National Authorities do not want to go out of their way to create
legal systems for them to be able to fly, although we are hopeful that this can
be organised. BUT, if there is an excuse that these planes have a poor safety
record, are generally crashing - in whatever part of the world - then that
would be used as an excuse not to give them airworthiness paperwork.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bottom line is that how we fly our aircraft does greatly affect other people.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>
>> Rhodds Farm
>>
>> Lyonshall
>>
>> Herefordshire
>>
>> HR5 3LW
>>
>> United Kingdom
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>
>> www.russianaeros.com<http://www.russianaeros.com/>
>>
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I sometimes miss the obvious. This is a joke isn't it?
Bill
On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>
> You're absolutely right Doc (and Richard too). It would probably be a good idea
to petition the FAA to prohibit Experimental Exhibition Catagory aircraft
from participating in Aerobatic Competition. Also in Aerobatic Practice. Also
from Formation Flying. Also in Airshow Flying. Also in any aerobatics below
1500 feet. Also in Air Racing. Safe operation of our aircraft should always
be at the top of our list of actions we take before and during flight operations.
These is no need to take these kinds of risks. People that take the kinds
of risks mentioned above that get involved in any kind of accident might very
well F#%K it up for me, and that is simply unacceptable.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Roger Kemp M.D.
> Sent: Wed 4/11/2012 10:44 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>
>
> Richard,
> We in the colonies really are damned lucky to have the experimental show category.
Safe operation of our aircraft should always be at the top of our list of
actions we take before and during our flight operations. We live and fly in
a self cleaning oven that proves every so often that rules can be broken or bent
but the laws of physics are laws that can never be broken. It does not matter
how old or how experienced we are. If you break the laws of physics then be
prepared to pay the ultimate price. If that happens, the self cleaning oven will
have claimed another.
> There are bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old bold pilots.
Its' your ass bust it if you like but don't F#%EUR it up for me.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:53 AM, "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark, I am sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. IF you were flying
your Yak in total isolation in some strange country with no aviation control,
then, you might be right, and in those circumstances it would not particularly
matter how you fly, or, indeed, if you decided to destroy the aeroplane and
kill yourself. However, you don't, and what you do with your aeroplane inevitably
affects all of us.
>
>
>
> The first simple fact is is that Yaks do not have a great safety record, to
an extent because of the way that they are flown; to an extent poor maintenance,
but insurance is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain, and if Yaks generally
have a poor safety record, then it could be impossible to insure, and
in Europe that means impossible to fly - I suspect that would the same in the
US.
>
>
>
> Again you will be aware of certification and registration issues in Europe,
and today there is no long-term solution to fly Yak-50 and 52 in Germany; France;
Holland; Belgium, and other countries. These aircraft are not certificated,
and the National Authorities do not want to go out of their way to create
legal systems for them to be able to fly, although we are hopeful that this can
be organised. BUT, if there is an excuse that these planes have a poor safety
record, are generally crashing - in whatever part of the world - then that
would be used as an excuse not to give them airworthiness paperwork.
>
>
>
> The bottom line is that how we fly our aircraft does greatly affect other
people.
>
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>
> Rhodds Farm
>
> Lyonshall
>
> Herefordshire
>
> HR5 3LW
>
> United Kingdom
>
>
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>
> www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com/>
>
>
>
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Of course possessing a LowAt card and having activated the Acro Box makes
everything alright ....
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
I sometimes miss the obvious. This is a joke isn't it?
Bill
On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> You're absolutely right Doc (and Richard too). It would probably be a
good idea to petition the FAA to prohibit Experimental Exhibition Catagory
aircraft from participating in Aerobatic Competition. Also in Aerobatic
Practice. Also from Formation Flying. Also in Airshow Flying. Also in
any aerobatics below 1500 feet. Also in Air Racing. Safe operation of our
aircraft should always be at the top of our list of actions we take before
and during flight operations. These is no need to take these kinds of
risks. People that take the kinds of risks mentioned above that get
involved in any kind of accident might very well F#%K it up for me, and that
is simply unacceptable.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Roger Kemp M.D.
> Sent: Wed 4/11/2012 10:44 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>
>
> Richard,
> We in the colonies really are damned lucky to have the experimental show
category. Safe operation of our aircraft should always be at the top of our
list of actions we take before and during our flight operations. We live and
fly in a self cleaning oven that proves every so often that rules can be
broken or bent but the laws of physics are laws that can never be broken. It
does not matter how old or how experienced we are. If you break the laws of
physics then be prepared to pay the ultimate price. If that happens, the
self cleaning oven will have claimed another.
> There are bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old bold
pilots. Its' your ass bust it if you like but don't F#%EUR it up for me.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:53 AM, "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark, I am sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. IF you were
flying your Yak in total isolation in some strange country with no aviation
control, then, you might be right, and in those circumstances it would not
particularly matter how you fly, or, indeed, if you decided to destroy the
aeroplane and kill yourself. However, you don't, and what you do with your
aeroplane inevitably affects all of us.
>
>
>
> The first simple fact is is that Yaks do not have a great safety
record, to an extent because of the way that they are flown; to an extent
poor maintenance, but insurance is becoming increasingly difficult to
obtain, and if Yaks generally have a poor safety record, then it could be
impossible to insure, and in Europe that means impossible to fly - I suspect
that would the same in the US.
>
>
>
> Again you will be aware of certification and registration issues in
Europe, and today there is no long-term solution to fly Yak-50 and 52 in
Germany; France; Holland; Belgium, and other countries. These aircraft are
not certificated, and the National Authorities do not want to go out of
their way to create legal systems for them to be able to fly, although we
are hopeful that this can be organised. BUT, if there is an excuse that
these planes have a poor safety record, are generally crashing - in whatever
part of the world - then that would be used as an excuse not to give them
airworthiness paperwork.
>
>
>
> The bottom line is that how we fly our aircraft does greatly affect
other people.
>
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>
> Rhodds Farm
>
> Lyonshall
>
> Herefordshire
>
> HR5 3LW
>
> United Kingdom
>
>
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>
> www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com/>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Surging engine: CJ6A - HS6A |
I had this problem crop up intermittently several times over the last 10 or so
years. I could never isolate the cause nor find any common condition that could
have been causing the surging, other than it seemed to happen more often than
not on warmer days or when I had the gills fully closed. I finally installed
fire sleeve on my fuel lines and the problem has never recurred. My theory
is that the fuel was vaporizing in the line from the filter to the fuel pump
since turning on my electric boost pump always made the surging go away immediately.
Fire sleeving the engine hoses isn't a bad idea regardless...
Ray
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=370610#370610
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Don't need a LowAT card in an activated and approved Acro Box Doc.
And you're correct .... having an approved and activated box makes
everything alright.
However, we need to discuss the obvious safety ramifications of people
that actually do this kind of thing, what risks they are taking, and how
we can better communicate to them their responsibilities to the rest of
the Experimental Exhibition Community.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Kemp MD
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:32
Subject: RE: Yak-List:
<viperdoc@mindspring.com>
Of course possessing a LowAt card and having activated the Acro Box
makes
everything alright ....
Doc
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List:
I sometimes miss the obvious. This is a joke isn't it?
Bill
On Apr 11, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point,
MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
> --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
> You're absolutely right Doc (and Richard too). It would probably be a
good idea to petition the FAA to prohibit Experimental Exhibition
Catagory
aircraft from participating in Aerobatic Competition. Also in Aerobatic
Practice. Also from Formation Flying. Also in Airshow Flying. Also
in
any aerobatics below 1500 feet. Also in Air Racing. Safe operation of
our
aircraft should always be at the top of our list of actions we take
before
and during flight operations. These is no need to take these kinds of
risks. People that take the kinds of risks mentioned above that get
involved in any kind of accident might very well F#%K it up for me, and
that
is simply unacceptable.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Roger Kemp M.D.
> Sent: Wed 4/11/2012 10:44 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>
>
> Richard,
> We in the colonies really are damned lucky to have the experimental
show
category. Safe operation of our aircraft should always be at the top of
our
list of actions we take before and during our flight operations. We live
and
fly in a self cleaning oven that proves every so often that rules can be
broken or bent but the laws of physics are laws that can never be
broken. It
does not matter how old or how experienced we are. If you break the laws
of
physics then be prepared to pay the ultimate price. If that happens, the
self cleaning oven will have claimed another.
> There are bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old
bold
pilots. Its' your ass bust it if you like but don't F#%EUR it up for me.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 11, 2012, at 8:53 AM, "Richard Goode"
<richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mark, I am sorry to say but you are wrong on this one. IF you
were
flying your Yak in total isolation in some strange country with no
aviation
control, then, you might be right, and in those circumstances it would
not
particularly matter how you fly, or, indeed, if you decided to destroy
the
aeroplane and kill yourself. However, you don't, and what you do with
your
aeroplane inevitably affects all of us.
>
>
>
> The first simple fact is is that Yaks do not have a great safety
record, to an extent because of the way that they are flown; to an
extent
poor maintenance, but insurance is becoming increasingly difficult to
obtain, and if Yaks generally have a poor safety record, then it could
be
impossible to insure, and in Europe that means impossible to fly - I
suspect
that would the same in the US.
>
>
>
> Again you will be aware of certification and registration issues in
Europe, and today there is no long-term solution to fly Yak-50 and 52 in
Germany; France; Holland; Belgium, and other countries. These aircraft
are
not certificated, and the National Authorities do not want to go out of
their way to create legal systems for them to be able to fly, although
we
are hopeful that this can be organised. BUT, if there is an excuse that
these planes have a poor safety record, are generally crashing - in
whatever
part of the world - then that would be used as an excuse not to give
them
airworthiness paperwork.
>
>
>
> The bottom line is that how we fly our aircraft does greatly affect
other people.
>
>
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>
> Rhodds Farm
>
> Lyonshall
>
> Herefordshire
>
> HR5 3LW
>
> United Kingdom
>
>
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>
> www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com/>
>
>
>
> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content
by
the Invictawiz MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
>
>
> ==================================
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> ==================================
> cs.com
> ==================================
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> ==================================
>
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