Yak-List Digest Archive

Thu 05/10/12


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:12 AM - Engine (Richard Goode)
     2. 06:11 AM - Re: Engine (Chris Wise)
     3. 07:33 AM - Re: Dragger mod for the YAK 50 (Tim Gagnon)
     4. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: Dragger mod for the YAK 50 (Roger Kemp)
     5. 07:55 AM - Re: compressor issues (Larry Pine)
     6. 08:01 AM - Re: compressor issues (FamilyGage@aol.com)
     7. 08:09 AM - Re: compressor issues (George Coy)
     8. 08:16 AM - Re: compressor issues (Roger Kemp M.D.)
     9. 09:06 AM - Re: Engine (Richard Goode)
    10. 02:01 PM - Re: Engine (Jan Mevis)
    11. 04:47 PM - what's new in the parts room (doug sapp)
    12. 05:05 PM - Re: compressor issues (Bill Geipel)
    13. 07:09 PM - Re: compressor issues (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
    14. 07:45 PM - Re: compressor issues (Bill Geipel)
    15. 09:57 PM - Re: compressor issues (Sam Sax)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:12:09 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Engine
    We recently prepared a "display" M14 engine for an Austrian customer. It was prepared by our partner, Aerometal in Hungary, and the entire engine; gearbox; and accessory case are all "sectioned" and all internal parts finished with a rather fine nickel plate. It is actually an M14V - the helicopter version which is in wide use in the East, and has a right angle drive in the gearbox, as well as a cooling fan. Rather to our surprise, the whole engine turns quite easily, and this can be seen in a short video clip that might interest those who are interested in these fine engines. http://www.russianaeros.com/Video/MVI_1676.AVI If any rich Yak owners would like another one for their home/office/den, please let us know! Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com <br />-- <br />This message has been scanned for viruses and <br />dangerous content by the <a href="http://www.invictawiz.com/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, <br />and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 06:11:10 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Wise" <wise@txc.net.au>
    Subject: Engine
    G'Day Richard. Hope this finds you going well. I cannot open the link that you sent as it simply states error. Thanks and cheers, Chris. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 7:39 PM Subject: Yak-List: Engine We recently prepared a "display" M14 engine for an Austrian customer. It was prepared by our partner, Aerometal in Hungary, and the entire engine; gearbox; and accessory case are all "sectioned" and all internal parts finished with a rather fine nickel plate. It is actually an M14V - the helicopter version which is in wide use in the East, and has a right angle drive in the gearbox, as well as a cooling fan. Rather to our surprise, the whole engine turns quite easily, and this can be seen in a short video clip that might interest those who are interested in these fine engines. http://www.russianaeros.com/Video/MVI_1676.AVI If any rich Yak owners would like another one for their home/office/den, please let us know! Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Invictawiz MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 07:33:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dragger mod for the YAK 50
    From: "Tim Gagnon" <NiftyYak50@fuse.net>
    Thread drift... Doc, I fly overseas with a guy who knows you. Jay L...retired Navy Captain flying ISR in Afghanistan. That is all. Tim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372750#372750


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    Time: 07:53:54 AM PST US
    From: Roger Kemp <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Dragger mod for the YAK 50
    Tell the infidel I said Hey! Doc -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@fuse.net> >Sent: May 10, 2012 9:31 AM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Dragger mod for the YAK 50 > > >Thread drift... > >Doc, > >I fly overseas with a guy who knows you. Jay L...retired Navy Captain flying ISR in Afghanistan. > >That is all. > >Tim > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372750#372750 > >


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    Time: 07:55:41 AM PST US
    From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: compressor issues
    It's a little larger but still fits as an exact bolt-up.- Mine is canted downward instead of the stock upwards due to hoses that I added. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote: From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues Does it fit where the stock compressor does? Bill On May 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger th an the stock M14P compresssor.- Besides making-air at idle, I can have an-empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing.-- I tend to-like it.. Attached is a picture. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues th.net> EXCELLENT points Doug. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > Elmar, > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. >- As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > slowly.- I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > to check valves etc.- I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > Doug > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> wrote: > >- ---<samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> > >- ---The other day I had a chat with a friend who >- ---owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > >- ---He told me he doesn't have much luck with >- ---with the original engine driven compressor >- ---and is now thinking about removing and replacing >- ---it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi >- ---27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of >- ---the fuselage). > >- ---He has no retractable undercarriage and no >- ---pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, >- ---his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > >- ---I suggested to convert to an approved electric start >- ---system but since he has already that surplus compressor >- ---(and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > >- ---I am always very skeptic if someone deviates >- ---from the designer's path, but since this is a >- ---homebuilt - different rules apply? > >- ---What are the cons and pros of this project, I >- ---have never heard of anyone doing something >- ---similar? > >- ---Your educated opinion on this matter is highly >- ---appreciated. > >- ---Thank you in advance. > >- ---cheers > >- ---Elmar > > >- ---========== >- ---rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >- ---========== >- ---http://forums.matronics.com >- ---==================== =============== >- ---le, List Admin. >- ---="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >- ---========== > > > * > > >nbsp;--> http://f=- - - - - ---- List Contributionsp; - - - - - - - - - - &bsp;--> <DSC01571.JPG>


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    Time: 08:01:17 AM PST US
    From: FamilyGage@aol.com
    Subject: Re: compressor issues
    Jim: Nice to see you at Ken's service. Since then I am recovering from colon cancer. The surgery went well, however, Halifax Hospital did their best to kill me. Checked in feeling great and 170 lbs.: checked out a skeleton at 132 lbs. Had 24 hour home care, now, much improved and up to 150 lbs. This note is a suggestion to enjoy every sunrise. Hope you and your family is well and happy. Ray Gage In a message dated 5/9/2012 6:38:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cjpilot710@aol.com writes: Dennis & Doug are correct about the time a Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi 27VDC compressor would take to fill a tank. I use a 28dcv battery charger to run my cornelius and it takes 2 hours to fill a scuba tank to 1500psi. No a/c battery will last long enough. It'd be best to find out whats wrong with the regular compressor and fix it. A cornelius requires a oil supply (the can attached) and over all its heavier. I used mine to keep a scuba bottle filled for shop work and to refill my CJ during shop maintenance. I am interested about the AN2 compressor. Does it fit right on the M-14 in the regular place? This is the first I've heard of it. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 4:17 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger than the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attached is a picture. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <_dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net) > wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <_dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net_ (mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net) > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues <_dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net_ (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net) > EXCELLENT points Doug. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#) 334-546-8182 (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#) (mobile) _www.yak-52.com_ (http://www.yak-52.com/) Skype - Yakguy1 On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > Elmar, > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > Doug > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > <_samira.h@shaw.ca_ (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to =samira.h@shaw.ca) <mailto:_samira.h@shaw.ca_ (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca) >> wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > <_samira.h@shaw.ca_ (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca) <mailto:_samira.h@shaw.ca_ (http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca) >> > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > with the original engine driven compressor > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > the fuselage). > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > from the designer's path, but since this is a > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > have never heard of anyone doing something > similar? > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > appreciated. > > Thank you in advance. > > cheers > > Elmar > > > ========== > rget="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List_ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List) > ========== > _http://forums.matronics.com_ (http://forums.matronics.com/) > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">_http://www.matronics.com/contribution_ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) > ========== > > > * > > >nbsp;--> _http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> _ (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 08:09:21 AM PST US
    From: "George Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>
    Subject: compressor issues
    We have an AN2 compressor for the ASH engine. (AKA a Russian License built 1820 Wright). We also stock new AK50 compressors. George Coy From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FamilyGage@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues Jim: Nice to see you at Ken's service. Since then I am recovering from colon cancer. The surgery went well, however, Halifax Hospital did their best to kill me. Checked in feeling great and 170 lbs.: checked out a skeleton at 132 lbs. Had 24 hour home care, now, much improved and up to 150 lbs. This note is a suggestion to enjoy every sunrise. Hope you and your family is well and happy. Ray Gage In a message dated 5/9/2012 6:38:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cjpilot710@aol.com writes: Dennis & Doug are correct about the time a Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi 27VDC compressor would take to fill a tank. I use a 28dcv battery charger to run my cornelius and it takes 2 hours to fill a scuba tank to 1500psi. No a/c battery will last long enough. It'd be best to find out whats wrong with the regular compressor and fix it. A cornelius requires a oil supply (the can attached) and over all its heavier. I used mine to keep a scuba bottle filled for shop work and to refill my CJ during shop maintenance. I am interested about the AN2 compressor. Does it fit right on the M-14 in the regular place? This is the first I've heard of it. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby -----Original Message----- From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com <mailto:threein60@yahoo.com%0bTo:%20yak-list%20%3cyak-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 4:17 pm Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger than the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attached is a picture. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > EXCELLENT points Doug. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > Elmar, > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > Doug > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> wrote: > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > with the original engine driven compressor > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > the fuselage). > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > from the designer's path, but since this is a > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > have never heard of anyone doing something > similar? > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > appreciated. > > Thank you in advance. > > cheers > > Elmar > > > ========== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?Yak-List <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> The Yak-List Email Forum - Matronics List Features Navigator to browse List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, and much much more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - content also available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> - List Contribution Web Site - for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194>


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    Time: 08:16:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: compressor issues
    From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com>
    Hope you have a speedy recovery, Ray! God's speed, Doc Sent from my iPad On May 10, 2012, at 9:58 AM, FamilyGage@aol.com wrote: > Jim: > Nice to see you at Ken's service. Since then I am recovering from colon c ancer. The surgery went well, however, Halifax Hospital did their best to k ill me. Checked in feeling great and 170 lbs.: checked out a skeleton at 13 2 lbs. Had 24 hour home care, now, much improved and up to 150 lbs. This n ote is a suggestion to enjoy every sunrise. Hope you and your family is wel l and happy. > Ray Gage > > In a message dated 5/9/2012 6:38:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cjpilot710 @aol.com writes: > Dennis & Doug are correct about the time a Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi 27VDC compressor would take to fill a tank. I use a 28dcv battery charger to run my cornelius and it takes 2 hours to fill a scuba tank to 1500psi. No a/c b attery will last long enough. It'd be best to find out whats wrong with the regular compressor and fix it. A cornelius requires a oil supply (the can a ttached) and over all its heavier. I used mine to keep a scuba bottle fille d for shop work and to refill my CJ during shop maintenance. > > I am interested about the AN2 compressor. Does it fit right on the M-14 i n the regular place? This is the first I've heard of it. > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com > To: yak-list <yak-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 4:17 pm > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > > I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger t han the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an e mpty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attache d is a picture. > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrote : > > From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:44 PM > uth.net> > > EXCELLENT points Doug. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 > 334-546-8182 (mobile) > www.yak-52.com > Skype - Yakguy1 > > > On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > > Elmar, > > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > > > Doug > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> wrote: > > > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> > > > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > > with the original engine driven compressor > > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > > the fuselage). > > > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > > from the designer's path, but since this is a > > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > > have never heard of anyone doing something > > similar? > > > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > > appreciated. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > cheers > > > > Elmar > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > http://forums.matronics.com > > ======================= ============ > > le, List Admin. > > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> > > > > > > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/ Navigator?Yak-List > s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:06:19 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
    Subject: Engine
    Hi Chris-it should work now!! Richard Richard Goode Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Hereford HR5 3LW Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise Sent: 10 May 2012 14:08 Subject: RE: Yak-List: Engine G'Day Richard. Hope this finds you going well. I cannot open the link that you sent as it simply states error. Thanks and cheers, Chris. From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 7:39 PM Subject: Yak-List: Engine We recently prepared a "display" M14 engine for an Austrian customer. It was prepared by our partner, Aerometal in Hungary, and the entire engine; gearbox; and accessory case are all "sectioned" and all internal parts finished with a rather fine nickel plate. It is actually an M14V - the helicopter version which is in wide use in the East, and has a right angle drive in the gearbox, as well as a cooling fan. Rather to our surprise, the whole engine turns quite easily, and this can be seen in a short video clip that might interest those who are interested in these fine engines. http://www.russianaeros.com/Video/MVI_1676.AVI If any rich Yak owners would like another one for their home/office/den, please let us know! Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 <http://www.russianaeros.com> www.russianaeros.com -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Invictawiz MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. <br />-- <br />This message has been scanned for viruses and <br />dangerous content by the <a href="http://www.invictawiz.com/"><b>MailScanner</b></a>, <br />and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 02:01:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine
    From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    Thanks Richard, VERY nice! Jan From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> Subject: Yak-List: Engine We recently prepared a =B3display=B2 M14 engine for an Austrian customer. It was prepared by our partner, Aerometal in Hungary, and the entire engine; gearbox; and accessory case are all =B3sectioned=B2 and all internal parts finished with a rather fine nickel plate. It is actually an M14V =AD the helicopter version which is in wide use in the East, and has a right angle drive in the gearbox, as well as a cooling fan. Rather to our surprise, the whole engine turns quite easily, and this can b e seen in a short video clip that might interest those who are interested in these fine engines. http://www.russianaeros.com/Video/MVI_1676.AVI If any rich Yak owners would like another one for their home/office/den, please let us know! Richard Goode Aerobatics Rhodds Farm Lyonshall Herefordshire HR5 3LW United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120 Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129 www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Invictawiz MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 04:47:08 PM PST US
    Subject: what's new in the parts room
    From: doug sapp <dougsappllc@gmail.com>
    Listers and lurkers, *Pneumatic system*: Not all that much new to pass on except to mention again that air tool oil in your pneumatic system is proving to not be a good thing to do. Personally I recommend glycerine and alcohol, with a once a year dose of castor oil. I do carry the glycerine in stock, I do not carry the alcohol or the castor oil. *New stuff*: Brake handle lock--John Long recently sent me a sample of his new brake handle lock and I must say I am very impressed. It is a work of art, simple in it's function, sturdy in it's construction, easy to both install and operate. Once you see it I think you will agree that it's a must have item. I am pleased that John has asked us to sell them for him, please contact me off list for info and a photo if interested. *Lower cowling intake screen*--We recently have been able to buy a number of the new style CJ6 lower cowl intake screens, these are the new stainless steel type, a direct replacement for the old soldered screen style. *Magneto coils*-- As many of you know I have been trying to find an alternate source for magneto coils for the 285 and the 360 hp engines because supply is drying up in China and Russia. After over a year of searching we actually stumbled over (it's a long story) a full case of 12 these coils, all new in factory wrappings. I would encourage everyone to consider haveing a spare on hand until this shortage gets worked out. New DZ5 mags are now a $1,000.00 each, M9 series higher priced yet. Again, we have only 12 coils in stock and when they are gone I'm afraid it will be a long dry spell before more are located. 285 hp exhaust valves--I was able to find 10 more, the last shipment of 24 sold out fast. Maintenance issue on exhaust ports as pointed out to me by Jill from M14P Inc. Not enough care is being given to making sure that the ring nuts on the exhaust are good and tight. If not tight the loose exhaust donuts will will bell out (erode) the exhaust port where they normally seat, quickly eating up the exhaust donuts, eroding the port and eventually will render the cylinder unairworthy. Many of us sell the pin wrenches, (Geo Coy, M14P Inc, and myself to name a few) if you don't have a pin wrench, please buy one and check the ring nuts at least annually if not more often. Felt wheel seal kits-- we were out of these for a short period of time, they and the rest of the overhaul kits are now back in inventory. Drop me a line off list for a complete list of all the overhaul kits available for the CJ6. And last I would like to give a big thank you to all of you who have inquired as to how Kathleen and I are doing after our "incident" in our cub. We are now back to work full time, shoulder to the wheel, pretty much all healed up. We are building another cub to replace the one we lost, and hope to be in the air by late fall/early spring. We do appreciate everyone's concern and well wishes. Please remember, if you respond to any of the above please do so via my email dougsappllc@gmail.com and not via the list. All the best from Omak, Doug and Kathleen


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    Time: 05:05:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: compressor issues
    From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Sounds like something I should do. Thank you. Bill On May 10, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: > It's a little larger but still fits as an exact bolt-up. Mine is canted d ownward instead of the stock upwards due to hoses that I added. > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote: > > From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 6:04 PM > > Does it fit where the stock compressor does? > > Bill > > > > On May 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger t han the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an e mpty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attache d is a picture. >> >> Larry Pine >> >> >> --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> wrot e: >> >> From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:44 PM >> outh.net> >> >> EXCELLENT points Doug. >> Dennis >> >> A. Dennis Savarese >> 334-285-6263 >> 334-546-8182 (mobile) >> www.yak-52.com >> Skype - Yakguy1 >> >> >> On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: >> > Elmar, >> > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. >> > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very >> > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 >> > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air >> > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 >> > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all >> > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer >> > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> wrote: >> > >> > <samira.h@shaw.ca <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca>> >> > >> > The other day I had a chat with a friend who >> > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. >> > >> > He told me he doesn't have much luck with >> > with the original engine driven compressor >> > and is now thinking about removing and replacing >> > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi >> > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of >> > the fuselage). >> > >> > He has no retractable undercarriage and no >> > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, >> > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. >> > >> > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start >> > system but since he has already that surplus compressor >> > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. >> > >> > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates >> > from the designer's path, but since this is a >> > homebuilt - different rules apply? >> > >> > What are the cons and pros of this project, I >> > have never heard of anyone doing something >> > similar? >> > >> > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly >> > appreciated. >> > >> > Thank you in advance. >> > >> > cheers >> > >> > Elmar >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ========== >> > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List >> > ========== >> > http://forums.matronics.com >> > ======================= ============ >> > le, List Admin. >> > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > ========== >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > * >> > >> > >> >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> >> >> >> <DSC01571.JPG> > > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 07:09:40 PM PST US
    Subject: compressor issues
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    A few facts to consider: AN-2: 4700 pound aircraft with a 1000 horsepower engine. Pneumatic brake system and compressor designed to bring it to a stop. Take air compressor off 1000 HP engine and put it on 360 (or less) horsepower engine. It fits. Pumps up tank faster. You betcha. Which means it also places a much heavier load on the engine drive system that powers it while doing so. The result of doing that long term? I have no idea. Maybe someone else does. I have no doubt that it works well short term. It may turn out to be a really good mod, but make no mistake that it will rob more power from the engine when it is under load. Not saying the sky is falling. Just saying that it is wise to consider such a change carefully. Mark Bitterlich ________________________________ From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill Geipel Sent: Thu 5/10/2012 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues Sounds like something I should do. Thank you. Bill On May 10, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: It's a little larger but still fits as an exact bolt-up. Mine is canted downward instead of the stock upwards due to hoses that I added. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote: From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 6:04 PM Does it fit where the stock compressor does? Bill On May 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=threein60@yahoo.com> > wrote: I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger than the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attached is a picture. Larry Pine --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > wrote: From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues To: yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:44 PM EXCELLENT points Doug. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Yak-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> 334-546-8182 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Yak-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> (mobile) www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com/> Skype - Yakguy1 On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > Elmar, > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > Doug > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> wrote: > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > with the original engine driven compressor > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > the fuselage). > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > from the designer's path, but since this is a > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > have never heard of anyone doing something > similar? > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > appreciated. > > Thank you in advance. > > cheers > > Elmar > > > > > > ========== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > =================================== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > * > > >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> <DSC01571.JPG> =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ================================== //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ================================== cs.com ================================== matronics.com/contribution ==================================


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    Time: 07:45:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: compressor issues
    From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net>
    Unload it while flyin. Save wear and tear on any compressor. Bill On May 10, 2012, at 9:05 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > A few facts to consider: > > AN-2: 4700 pound aircraft with a 1000 horsepower engine. Pneumatic brake system and compressor designed to bring it to a stop. > > Take air compressor off 1000 HP engine and put it on 360 (or less) horsepower engine. > > It fits. > > Pumps up tank faster. You betcha. Which means it also places a much heavier load on the engine drive system that powers it while doing so. > > The result of doing that long term? I have no idea. Maybe someone else does. I have no doubt that it works well short term. It may turn out to be a really good mod, but make no mistake that it will rob more power from the engine when it is under load. Not saying the sky is falling. Just saying that it is wise to consider such a change carefully. > > Mark Bitterlich > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill Geipel > Sent: Thu 5/10/2012 8:02 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > > > Sounds like something I should do. Thank you. > > Bill > > > > On May 10, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > It's a little larger but still fits as an exact bolt-up. Mine is canted downward instead of the stock upwards due to hoses that I added. > > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote: > > > > From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 6:04 PM > > > Does it fit where the stock compressor does? > > Bill > > > > On May 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=threein60@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger than the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attached is a picture. > > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > > From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:44 PM > > > > EXCELLENT points Doug. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Yak-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> > 334-546-8182 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Yak-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> (mobile) > www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com/> > Skype - Yakguy1 > > > On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > > Elmar, > > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > > > Doug > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> wrote: > > > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> > > > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > > with the original engine driven compressor > > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > > the fuselage). > > > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > > from the designer's path, but since this is a > > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > > have never heard of anyone doing something > > similar? > > > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > > appreciated. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > cheers > > > > Elmar > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > > =================================== > > le, List Admin. > > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> > > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <DSC01571.JPG> > > > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > ================================== > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ================================== > cs.com > ================================== > matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:57:42 PM PST US
    From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com>
    Subject: compressor issues
    Bill, Unloading while flying not a bad idea to avoid continuous load when tank is full but I am guessing that it would still load the drive system while filling the tank and if nothing else I is will surely take more energy (horsepower) from the engine even when not under load than a stock compressor with the same mod... May not be much I just don't know. Nifty install though. Sam -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues Unload it while flyin. Save wear and tear on any compressor. Bill On May 10, 2012, at 9:05 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > --> Point, MALS-14 64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > A few facts to consider: > > AN-2: 4700 pound aircraft with a 1000 horsepower engine. Pneumatic brake system and compressor designed to bring it to a stop. > > Take air compressor off 1000 HP engine and put it on 360 (or less) horsepower engine. > > It fits. > > Pumps up tank faster. You betcha. Which means it also places a much heavier load on the engine drive system that powers it while doing so. > > The result of doing that long term? I have no idea. Maybe someone else does. I have no doubt that it works well short term. It may turn out to be a really good mod, but make no mistake that it will rob more power from the engine when it is under load. Not saying the sky is falling. Just saying that it is wise to consider such a change carefully. > > Mark Bitterlich > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill Geipel > Sent: Thu 5/10/2012 8:02 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > > > Sounds like something I should do. Thank you. > > Bill > > > > On May 10, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > It's a little larger but still fits as an exact bolt-up. Mine is canted downward instead of the stock upwards due to hoses that I added. > > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote: > > > > From: Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 6:04 PM > > > Does it fit where the stock compressor does? > > Bill > > > > On May 9, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=threein60@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > I have, what I'm told is an AN2 engine driven compressor. Mine is larger than the stock M14P compresssor. Besides making air at idle, I can have an empty bottle to the point of fill while taxing. I tend to like it.. Attached is a picture. > > > Larry Pine > > > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > > > > From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > Subject: Re: Yak-List: compressor issues > To: yak-list@matronics.com <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=yak-list@matronics.com> > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:44 PM > > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net > <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dsavarese0812@bellsouth > .net> > > > EXCELLENT points Doug. > Dennis > > A. Dennis Savarese > 334-285-6263 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Ya k-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> > 334-546-8182 <https://webmail.east.nmci.navy.mil/exchange/mark.bitterlich/Drafts/RE:%20Ya k-List:%20compressor%20issues.EML/1_text.htm#> <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.tm=1336592194#> (mobile) > www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com/> > Skype - Yakguy1 > > > On 5/9/2012 1:57 PM, doug sapp wrote: > > Elmar, > > The idea is a good one if you have a lot of time and a big battery. > > As with most high pressure compressors these compressors pump very > > slowly. I found that I had to install a converter to convert 110 > > volts AC to 24 volts @20 amps DC to produce my high pressure shop air > > to check valves etc. I also tried a pair of heavy duty deep cycle 12 > > volt batteries but found that when operating under any pressure at all > > the compressor sucked the batteries dry before my CJ tank was full. > > > > Doug > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> wrote: > > > > <samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> <mailto:samira.h@shaw.ca <http://us.mc1614.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=samira.h@shaw.ca> >> > > > > The other day I had a chat with a friend who > > owns a M14P powered homebuilt. > > > > He told me he doesn't have much luck with > > with the original engine driven compressor > > and is now thinking about removing and replacing > > it with a Series 32 Cornelius 3-stage 1500psi > > 27VDC compressor (installed in the rear part of > > the fuselage). > > > > He has no retractable undercarriage and no > > pneumatically operated flaps and brakes, > > his air system is only used to fire up the engine. > > > > I suggested to convert to an approved electric start > > system but since he has already that surplus compressor > > (and a skinny wallet), he would like to give it a try. > > > > I am always very skeptic if someone deviates > > from the designer's path, but since this is a > > homebuilt - different rules apply? > > > > What are the cons and pros of this project, I > > have never heard of anyone doing something > > similar? > > > > Your educated opinion on this matter is highly > > appreciated. > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > cheers > > > > Elmar > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > > ========== > > http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > > =================================== > > le, List Admin. > > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ========== > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > >nbsp;--> http://f= - List Contributionsp; &bsp;--> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> > > > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > > <DSC01571.JPG> > > > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > ================================== > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > ================================== > cs.com > ================================== > matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > > > > > > > > > > > >




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