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1. 09:44 AM - LA Area CJ-6/Yak-52 Owners (Tim Gagnon)
2. 01:01 PM - Re: CJ/Housai Performance (mgdimarco)
3. 01:13 PM - Re: CJ/Housai Performance (mgdimarco)
4. 01:24 PM - Re: CJ/Housai Performance (mgdimarco)
5. 03:02 PM - FW: M 14 P (Chris Wise)
6. 03:41 PM - Re: FW: M 14 P (George Coy)
7. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: CJ/Housai Performance (A. Dennis Savarese)
8. 03:52 PM - Re: Re: CJ/Housai Performance (A. Dennis Savarese)
9. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: CJ/Housai Performance (A. Dennis Savarese)
10. 07:01 PM - Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a (mgdimarco)
11. 07:28 PM - Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a (Brian Lloyd)
12. 07:45 PM - smoke oil mess....Ughhh! (keithmckinley)
13. 09:20 PM - Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! (Walter Lannon)
14. 09:29 PM - Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! (Larry Pine)
15. 09:59 PM - Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! (\)
16. 11:05 PM - Wanted: Yak 52 (Invert)
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Subject: | LA Area CJ-6/Yak-52 Owners |
Anyone in the area willing to give a ride this week to a friend of mine who is
currently touring the US with his band The Boxer Rebellion?
He is a HUGE airplane fan and would love a ride in something cool! They will be
in town late on the 16th, most of the day the 17th, and the morning of the 18th.
'
Probably score some tickets to the show..back stage..maybe some sound check access.
These are some cool dudes.
I know this is last minute but if anyone could help out, that would be awesome!
Shoot me an email:
TimsMiscaz (at) gmail.com
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
Sorry Dennis, but that web site does not exist.
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Michael Di Marco
China Blue
mgdimarco@yahoo.com
407-608-3290
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
I went to the base address and found the table. The address is
http://www.yak-52.com/Power Settings.htm
%20 don't work none.
With all these being at sea level. Am I to assume a 25.4 mm drop in pressure per
1000' MSL? And at what altitude is full throttle the best you can do? And I
think I read at some altitude full rich is max lean.
Mike
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Michael Di Marco
China Blue
mgdimarco@yahoo.com
407-608-3290
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
And one more thing. Horsepower does not remain constant with altitude. How do
I know what horsepower to use in the calculation as altitude increases?
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Michael Di Marco
China Blue
mgdimarco@yahoo.com
407-608-3290
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G'Day All,
Can I please have some input re Ivor's questions.
I have done all of my valves, intake and exhaust and used some grinding
wheels (Dressed the angles with a diamond tip stone grinder in the lathe.
One hell of a mess) and made some various size mandrels for both intake and
exhaust to suite the slight differences of the guides.
I found the exhaust seats to be extremely hard and went by the angles in the
manual.
Hey Chris,
Do you know or could you find out if anyone knows what the M14P's factory
exhaust valve face and exhaust valve seat angles should be ?
Also, please ask if operators have had their exhaust valve seats re-cut and
if so, did they encounter difficulty cutting the seat due to the hardness ?
After hearing about your difficulties, I am contemplating making a diamond
impregnated dressing stone for this task.
Any takers ?
Is there an exchange service for overhauled cylinders ?
I have a mate who requires 3 urgently. I guess when the leakage exceeds the
starting air flow, you have to either fit an electric start or FIX the
problem, eh ?
Cheers,
Ivor Paech LAME
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Motorstar will overhaul your cylinders and make exchanges as well. Contact
me off list for details.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wise
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:59 PM
Subject: Yak-List: FW: M 14 P
G'Day All,
Can I please have some input re Ivor's questions.
I have done all of my valves, intake and exhaust and used some grinding
wheels (Dressed the angles with a diamond tip stone grinder in the lathe.
One hell of a mess) and made some various size mandrels for both intake and
exhaust to suite the slight differences of the guides.
I found the exhaust seats to be extremely hard and went by the angles in the
manual.
Hey Chris,
Do you know or could you find out if anyone knows what the M14P's factory
exhaust valve face and exhaust valve seat angles should be ?
Also, please ask if operators have had their exhaust valve seats re-cut and
if so, did they encounter difficulty cutting the seat due to the hardness ?
After hearing about your difficulties, I am contemplating making a diamond
impregnated dressing stone for this task.
Any takers ?
Is there an exchange service for overhauled cylinders ?
I have a mate who requires 3 urgently. I guess when the leakage exceeds the
starting air flow, you have to either fit an electric start or FIX the
problem, eh ?
Cheers,
Ivor Paech LAME
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
What web site are you talking about?
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/14/2012 2:59 PM, mgdimarco wrote:
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> Sorry Dennis, but that web site does not exist.
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> Michael Di Marco
> China Blue
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> mgdimarco@yahoo.com
> 407-608-3290
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373038#373038
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
OK. So go to www.yak-52.com and click on the Power Settings button at
the top.
The only thing I was offering you was how to convert g/hp/hr to gallons
or liters per hour, which is what you asked at the beginning of your post.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/14/2012 3:08 PM, mgdimarco wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "mgdimarco"<mgdimarco@yahoo.com>
>
> I went to the base address and found the table. The address is
>
> http://www.yak-52.com/Power Settings.htm
>
> %20 don't work none.
>
> With all these being at sea level. Am I to assume a 25.4 mm drop in pressure
per 1000' MSL? And at what altitude is full throttle the best you can do? And
I think I read at some altitude full rich is max lean.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> Michael Di Marco
> China Blue
>
> mgdimarco@yahoo.com
> 407-608-3290
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373039#373039
>
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Subject: | Re: CJ/Housai Performance |
I have no idea.
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/14/2012 3:21 PM, mgdimarco wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "mgdimarco"<mgdimarco@yahoo.com>
>
> And one more thing. Horsepower does not remain constant with altitude. How do
I know what horsepower to use in the calculation as altitude increases?
>
> --------
> Michael Di Marco
> China Blue
>
> mgdimarco@yahoo.com
> 407-608-3290
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373040#373040
>
>
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Subject: | Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a |
I asked an incomplete question in the other topic.
Who has or where can I find a set of performance charts for this aircraft/engine
combination.
Sea level data for a couple of data points hardly does the job. The only other
charts I found are TAS in kmph/altitude/RPM and a time to climb chart. There has
to be more than that.
Endurance/Fuel Flow charts have to exist somewhere........right?
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Michael Di Marco
China Blue
mgdimarco@yahoo.com
407-608-3290
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Subject: | Re: Performance Charts CJ6a and Housai 6a |
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 6:58 PM, mgdimarco <mgdimarco@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I asked an incomplete question in the other topic.
>
> Who has or where can I find a set of performance charts for this
> aircraft/engine combination.
>
> Sea level data for a couple of data points hardly does the job. The only
> other charts I found are TAS in kmph/altitude/RPM and a time to climb
> chart. There has to be more than that.
>
> Endurance/Fuel Flow charts have to exist somewhere........right?
>
Not unless you want to make your own.
Back when I had a flying CJ6 I had done the flight testing to get me a
number of useful data points for cross-country cruise, time to climb, etc.
Not sure I can find all that stuff now. But it isn't that difficult to do.
Do you have a fuel-flow gauge in your plane? If not then you will need to
take some long cross country flights to figure it out. But here is one you
can use as I remember it off the top of my head:
11,500', standard day, full throttle, 1950 RPM, leaned to peak EGT (without
surging) produced 130kts TAS at 11GPH. I used this power setting to make
flights of over 450 nm with only light (10-15 kts) tailwinds.
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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Subject: | smoke oil mess....Ughhh! |
Had a vent line come loose and dump smoke oil all over the inner fuselage. It's
the smelly MIL-SPEC type the T-birds were using at the show( kind of smells like
diesel). Does anyone have a recommendation for cutting it and cleaning it
out other than AVgas? Little concerned about any type of detergent.
Thank you.
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Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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Subject: | Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! |
Varsol (Exxon). Different names for different oil companies. Petroleum
solvent.
-----Original Message-----
From: keithmckinley
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: smoke oil mess....Ughhh!
Had a vent line come loose and dump smoke oil all over the inner fuselage.
It's the smelly MIL-SPEC type the T-birds were using at the show( kind of
smells like diesel). Does anyone have a recommendation for cutting it and
cleaning it out other than AVgas? Little concerned about any type of
detergent.
Thank you.
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Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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Subject: | Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! |
The cure is time.. Just ask Scott Andrews.- He's tank blew a seam while p
ressure filling.... 5 gallons of oil all over and in everything.- That wa
s more than a year now and I think his aircraft still leaks smoke oil....
Larry Pine
--- On Mon, 5/14/12, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> wrote:
From: keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Subject: Yak-List: smoke oil mess....Ughhh!
>
Had a vent line come loose and dump smoke oil all over the inner fuselage.
It's the smelly MIL-SPEC type the T-birds were using at the show( kind of s
mells like diesel). Does anyone have a recommendation for cutting it and cl
eaning it out other than AVgas? Little concerned about any type of detergen
t.
Thank you.
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Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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le, List Admin.
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Subject: | Re: smoke oil mess....Ughhh! |
I.d use GUNK (liquid in gal can) and mix 1 to 4 with mineral spirits. Spra
y over interior surface. Wait a few minutes (15) than wash out with water.
Make sure your drain holes are clear. Don't spray any thing electrical o
r get it wet. if you get water trapped in some places, suck it out a wet
/dry vac.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Pine <threein60@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, May 15, 2012 12:30 am
Subject: Re: Yak-List: smoke oil mess....Ughhh!
The cure is time.. Just ask Scott Andrews. He's tank blew a seam while pre
ssure filling.... 5 gallons of oil all over and in everything. That was mo
re than a year now and I think his aircraft still leaks smoke oil....
Larry Pine
--- On Mon, 5/14/12, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> wrote:
From: keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
Subject: Yak-List: smoke oil mess....Ughhh!
>
Had a vent line come loose and dump smoke oil all over the inner fuselage.
It's the smelly MIL-SPEC type the T-birds were using at the show( kind of s
mells like diesel). Does anyone have a recommendation for cutting it and cl
eaning it out other than AVgas? Little concerned about any type of detergen
t.
Thank you.
--------
Keith McKinley
700HS
KFIT
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