Yak-List Digest Archive

Mon 05/28/12


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:45 AM - Re: Flight Review Video - WhirlWind Aviation 3-Blade Propeller (Harv)
     2. 10:31 AM - Memorial Day (Herb Coussons)
     3. 10:42 AM - Yak 50 gear problem (Gord)
     4. 05:21 PM - Gear problem Yak 50 (gord)
     5. 05:43 PM - Re: Gear problem Yak 50 (Vic)
     6. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: Gear problem Yak 50 (gord)
     7. 10:51 PM - Re: Re: Gear problem Yak 50 (Jan Mevis)
     8. 10:57 PM - Re: Re: Gear problem Yak 50 (Jan Mevis)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:45:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight Review Video - WhirlWind Aviation 3-Blade Propeller
    From: "Harv" <martin.harvey@kbr.com>
    Looks great! Now the big question, are you supplying it with a hub that's splinded for fitment to the Housai engine? [Wink] Harv Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374083#374083


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    Time: 10:31:45 AM PST US
    From: Herb Coussons <drc@wscare.com>
    Subject: Memorial Day
    I hope all of you have been able to enjoy the long weekend and catch up on some much needed rest and relaxation and maybe get out to fly. Today, I will take a moment to honor the brave men and women who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. Today we honor our fallen soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines. The sacrifice these soldiers have made is not just theirs. It's also a sacrifice made by their families, friends, and brothers in arms. Memorial Day is also a time to honor those who continue to put themselves in harm's way to protect our nation and our freedoms. I know many on this list have served and I have had the privilege of getting to know you, some of America's finest. There are still alot of us out here who recognize and still care despite the politics around us. To all those who serve and have served, I salute you. Your dedication to our Country is second to none. Thank you for your sacrifice and patriotism. In Remembrance, Dr. Herb Coussons, MD drc@wscare.com 2641 Development Drive Green Bay, WI 54311 Cell 920-639-8434 Work 920-338-6868 Fax 920-338-6869


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    Time: 10:42:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Yak 50 gear problem
    From: Gord <gord@thedampub.ca>
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    Time: 05:21:18 PM PST US
    From: "gord" <gord@thedampub.ca>
    Subject: Gear problem Yak 50
    It appears that I had a gear problem right after take off and maybe both were down to some degree. We now have the airplane on jacks. The emergency system worked fine and the gear was down and locked. Air pressures normal. When we retracted the gear both red lights out=85left green light out right green light on and the weird part was the actual gear position left gear unlocked about 2=94 right gear =BD retracted. Any air seemed to be coming from the emergency tank as we did a few cycles the emrg tank pressure decreased . The main tank remained full . So our problem seems to be no air to retract/extend from main tank. Trying to work through the schematic we have is pretty challenging. Any ideas would be much appreciated. I don=92t mind reimbursing someone to help my mechanic solve this puzzle if that would help. I need to get back in the air for a couple of airshows. Thanks Gord


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    Time: 05:43:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear problem Yak 50
    From: "Vic" <vicmolnar@aol.com>
    Hi Gord, when you have activated the emergency system you wont be able to retract the landing gear subsequently. Just empty the emergency tank completely, close the tap and then do a refill to 50 bar and all should be working as usual. Only with this procedure the rubber ball in the respective shuttle valve will shift to the "normal" position. Cheers Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374120#374120


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    Time: 06:45:38 PM PST US
    From: "gord" <gord@thedampub.ca>
    Subject: Re: Gear problem Yak 50
    Thanks Vic. We will try that in the morning. Where is the shuttle valve located? I am wondering why I had the retraction problem in the first place and then not being able to get the gear down normally. Maybe the shuttle valve needs cleaning? We will know more tomorrow. As I understand the schematic for the gear.... air goes from main tank through the main air valve to the undercarriage lever where it is routed to either side of the undercarriage jack. Please correct me if this is wrong. Thank goodness for this forum! Gord


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    Time: 10:51:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear problem Yak 50
    From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    Gord, you must not use the emergency system to full blow down of the gear, when on jacks. Be careful: there's NO restriction on the pressure when using the emergency system. Furthermore: the Russians say that you must not use the emergency system more than three times (in full force) without having a serious inspection of the system, just because there's no restriction to the air coming from the emergency flask (logical: you want the gear down and locked, even with bad seals). There IS a restriction, a small disk with a tiny hole, in the circuit of the normal system.It is on top of the connection to the actuator. DO NOT LOOSE THAT VERY SMALL DISK when you want to dissassemble the leads to the actuators. As far as I understand, you did not get enough pressure to lock the gear in the upper position. You may have leaks on the lines to the actuator, or maybe in the actuator itself. When was it last overhauled? Also: the system on the 50 is quite different from the system on the Yak 52.You'll be amazed: the whole actuator can move (and has to be able to) contrary to the Yak 52. I'd suggest that you get someone knowledgeable about the Yak 50. Good luck, Jan On 29/05/12 03:43, "gord" <gord@thedampub.ca> wrote: > >Thanks Vic. > >We will try that in the morning. Where is the shuttle valve located? I am >wondering why I had the retraction problem in the first place and then not >being able to get the gear down normally. Maybe the shuttle valve needs >cleaning? We will know more tomorrow. > >As I understand the schematic for the gear.... air goes from main tank >through the main air valve to the undercarriage lever where it is routed >to >either side of the undercarriage jack. Please correct me if this is wrong. > >Thank goodness for this forum! Gord > >


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    Time: 10:57:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gear problem Yak 50
    From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
    You can empty the emergency system by using the brakes, left, right, alternately, use the rudder. If there's some air left in the main system, the shuttle valve will ultimately pop back to the other side. Then do your gear tests on jacks. My guess is that you have some air loss on the line to the left actuator. Maybe a broken line. Anyway, if it has been a long time, then now is a good opportunity to overhaul the actuators? Jan On 29/05/12 03:43, "gord" <gord@thedampub.ca> wrote: > >Thanks Vic. > >We will try that in the morning. Where is the shuttle valve located? I am >wondering why I had the retraction problem in the first place and then not >being able to get the gear down normally. Maybe the shuttle valve needs >cleaning? We will know more tomorrow. > >As I understand the schematic for the gear.... air goes from main tank >through the main air valve to the undercarriage lever where it is routed >to >either side of the undercarriage jack. Please correct me if this is wrong. > >Thank goodness for this forum! Gord > >




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