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1. 07:53 AM - airshow comments (Philip Nicholson)
2. 08:20 AM - Re: airshow comments (Byron Fox)
3. 08:51 AM - Re: airshow comments (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 09:06 AM - Re: airshow comments (Walter Lannon)
5. 09:21 AM - Re: airshow comments (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 09:21 AM - 18T Harness (Anthony Hudacek)
7. 09:57 AM - Re: 18T Harness (Richard Goode)
8. 10:26 AM - Re: airshow comments (Brian Lloyd)
9. 10:33 AM - Re: airshow comments (Mark Davis)
10. 11:54 AM - Re: airshow comments (Bill Geipel)
11. 12:26 PM - Re: airshow comments (Mark Davis)
12. 02:38 PM - Re: airshow comments (Roger Kemp M.D.)
13. 02:47 PM - Re: airshow comments (Richard Hess)
14. 03:42 PM - Re: airshow comments (Bill Geipel)
15. 04:20 PM - Re: airshow comments (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | airshow comments |
I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
Harvards that were giving flights etc.
I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
I've never had that reaction to our CJ, Philip, at least not within earshot. People
tend to be curious and a bit bemused.
We're all aware, however, that we occupy the back row against the fence at OSH.
We're at the bottom of the warbird pecking order in the minds of many. That view
tends to change when the cost of ownership gets explored.
In a free country, folks are entitled to be just as stupid as they choose. Screw
'em! :0)
...Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>
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| Subject: | airshow comments |
I believe that such feelings are universal, as I have heard the same comments from
people who owns Yak's and CJ's concerning those that fly Cessna "Spam Cans".
Continues with people who fly formation and those that do not. And those
that fly aerobatics and those that do not.
Pretty much human nature.
I'd love to own a T-6, (or Harvard) and have approached owners to ask questions
and have sometimes been treated pretty darn poorly. Of course it helps to know
I can spank their butt in a dogfight. :-)
This even continues to guys I see fly to a big air show in "whatever" and are there
only for the free gas, and giving "media rides". Once that is over with,
they zoom out in formation rather than stay for the "Static Display" portion.
Lots of ego involved and if you stop and think about it, some jealousy too! You're
airplane can do just about everything theirs can and much more cheaply.
Hence their comments.
Thick skin, BIG SMILE, ignore it.
Good advice, hard to do...... best of luck.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Philip Nicholson
Sent: Sat 7/21/2012 10:51 AM
Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
Harvards that were giving flights etc.
I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of "stupid
Chinese plane" "I wouldn't effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
me" comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
Phil;
You must be located somewhere in the far East like maybe Ontario, where
ignorance is bliss. You need to move to BC where CJ's and Harvards get
along just fine.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Nicholson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:51 AM
Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
Harvards that were giving flights etc.
I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
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| Subject: | airshow comments |
Walt, want a new neighbor? :-)
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Walter Lannon
Sent: Sat 7/21/2012 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: airshow comments
Phil;
You must be located somewhere in the far East like maybe Ontario, where
ignorance is bliss. You need to move to BC where CJ's and Harvards get
along just fine.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Nicholson
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:51 AM
Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
Harvards that were giving flights etc.
I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of "stupid
Chinese plane" "I wouldn't effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
me" comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
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Hi Yakker's,=0A=0AHave any of you used a 5 point harness in the 18T? It loo
ks as though the front seat adjust lever would interfere with the crotch st
rap. Any suggestions?=0A=0AAnt.
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We have modified Hooker harnesses to fit by using a wire for the crutch
strap and dividing it either side of the seat adjuster.
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
I=99m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local
phone is +94 779 132 160.
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony
Hudacek
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:48 PM
Subject: Yak-List: 18T Harness
Hi Yakker's,
Have any of you used a 5 point harness in the 18T? It looks as though
the front seat adjust lever would interfere with the crotch strap. Any
suggestions?
Ant.
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
On Saturday, July 21, 2012, Philip Nicholson wrote:
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> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of =93stupid
> Chinese plane=94 =93I wouldn=92t effin fly in that effin plane if you pa
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> me=94 comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
Human nature. We all want to feel superior somehow and doing it by
superficialities is simpler than doing it by substance. The people of
competence who really matter won't talk that way and you will enjoy their
company.
Every airplane presents its own unique challenges to fly to its limits,
even the lowly C-150. Kudos to the person who recognizes this and steps up
to the challenge.
"I never met an airplane I didn't like."
--
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
brian@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.916.877.5067 (USA)
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
Tell the morons we won the Cold War, so we now can use the former bad guys
military aircraft as toys. "To the victors........."
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Nicholson" <pednicholson@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:51 AM
Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
>
> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
Peepee envy
Bill
On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:31 PM, "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
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> Tell the morons we won the Cold War, so we now can use the former bad guys military
aircraft as toys. "To the victors........."
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Nicholson" <pednicholson@gmail.com>
> To: "Yak-List" <Yak-List@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:51 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
>
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>> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
>> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
>> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
>> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
>> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
>> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
>> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
>> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>>
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| Subject: | airshow comments |
Very Freudian observation Dawg. Didn't sleep through your psych classes like me?
Mark Davis
N44YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: airshow comments
Peepee envy
Bill
On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:31 PM, "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
>
> Tell the morons we won the Cold War, so we now can use the former bad guys military
aircraft as toys. "To the victors........."
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Nicholson"
> <pednicholson@gmail.com>
> To: "Yak-List" <Yak-List@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:51 AM
> Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
>
>
>> --> <pednicholson@gmail.com>
>>
>> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to
>> three Harvards that were giving flights etc.
>> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
>> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
>> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
>> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live
>> :-) Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry
>> up and paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>>
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
Prop your feet up on their bar. Fondle their ladies and tell them we won the WAR
so that's why you're playing with their toys!
If they can't fathom that tell 'em... ESAD!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:23 PM, "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
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> Very Freudian observation Dawg. Didn't sleep through your psych classes like
me?
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Geipel
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:52 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: airshow comments
>
>
> Peepee envy
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:31 PM, "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
>
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>> Tell the morons we won the Cold War, so we now can use the former bad guys military
aircraft as toys. "To the victors........."
>>
>> Mark Davis
>> N44YK
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Nicholson"
>> <pednicholson@gmail.com>
>> To: "Yak-List" <Yak-List@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:51 AM
>> Subject: Yak-List: airshow comments
>>
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>>> --> <pednicholson@gmail.com>
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>>> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to
>>> three Harvards that were giving flights etc.
>>> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
>>> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
>>> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
>>> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live
>>> :-) Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry
>>> up and paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
Never had that although rest of Warbirds community used to act like we were 3rd
class citizens.
Rich Hess
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
We out number the warbirds. Let's just take over
Bill
On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Richard Hess <hess737@aol.com> wrote:
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> Never had that although rest of Warbirds community used to act like we were 3rd
class citizens.
>
> Rich Hess
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Philip Nicholson <pednicholson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was recently at an air-show; my CJ staged on the grass next to three
>> Harvards that were giving flights etc.
>> I always assumed that any air-show attendee would be enthusiastic
>> about all planes. What amazed me however, where the number of stupid
>> Chinese plane I wouldnt effin fly in that effin plane if you paid
>> me comments. Is this normal or simply the result of where I live :-)
>> Has anyone else experienced remarks like these? Should I hurry up and
>> paint roundels on it before someone blows it up??
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: airshow comments |
I'm with you Brian. Some are just But Uglier than others!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
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> "I never met an airplane I didn't like."
>
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