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1. 10:23 AM - Re: MT FW 190 Replica prop (Mark Weidhaas)
2. 10:59 AM - Re: MT FW 190 Replica prop (Tom Elliott)
3. 12:16 PM - M-14P valve removal (Mozam)
4. 12:30 PM - Re: M-14P valve removal (Gill Gutierrez)
5. 12:33 PM - Re: M-14P valve removal (Roger Kemp)
6. 12:54 PM - Re: M-14P valve removal (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 01:16 PM - Re: M-14P valve removal (Gill Gutierrez)
8. 06:45 PM - Re: M-14P valve removal (Mozam)
9. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: M-14P valve removal (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | Re: MT FW 190 Replica prop |
I have flown now three years with the FW190 prop on my 52 after switching
out from the original two bladed.
Advantages:
1) Better engine cooling
2) At 100% power in formation takeoffs, I tend to have more power over the
two blade and MT props
3) The have a beautiful whistle sound off the tips when taxing around the
flight line. Women on the flight line tend to respond well to the
whistles. ;)
4) As TJ mentioned, the prop control works well as an air break. I find
that just nudging the prop forward can reduce airspeeds without dramatic
power changes. It is much easier to get to gear speeds without
pulling back power.
5) In a static display event when the sunlight hits the brass leading
edges, it is a piece of artwork.
6) Purchasing this expensive prop is an admission to a testosterone
deficiency.
Disadvantages
1) All landings should be completed at prop settings of 82%. Due to
the breaking action of high pitch position, landing with 100% is like a
carrier landing. My first landing was a real eye opener!
2) At higher altitudes, the two and MT blades will out perform the FW190 in
climbs and cross country legs.
3) The leading edges of the prop are brass. I have a slight dent from a
rock that can not be repaired easily in the field.
Mark "Weeds" Weidhaas
RPA FAST Records Officer
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page.
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On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> "In fairness to MT, that F-W 190 style prop is purely for show. It is not
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> suitable for anything but the most gentle of aerobatics, and gives
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> far less
> performance than the standard MTV-9 with the - 29 blades."
>
> Richard Goode
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> Richard is absolutely correct. A CJ with a stock prop and engine walks
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> away from our M14P equipped CJ with the FW 190 prop. I would observe, however,
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> that Richard is younger than I, and consequently does not require the testosterone
enhancement
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> that I do at 73. Condor, Weeds and Little Wood must also have the same depleted
levels.
>
> Blitz
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> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | MT FW 190 Replica prop |
All true and you never will over shoot a rejoin again.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell 702-595-2680
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:49 PM
Subject: Yak-List: MT FW 190 Replica prop
"In fairness to MT, that F-W 190 style prop is purely for show. It is
not
suitable for anything but the most gentle of aerobatics, and gives
far less performance than the standard MTV-9 with the - 29 blades."
Richard Goode
Richard is absolutely correct. A CJ with a stock prop and engine walks
away from our M14P equipped CJ with the FW 190 prop. I would observe,
however,
that Richard is younger than I, and consequently does not require the
testosterone enhancement
that I do at 73. Condor, Weeds and Little Wood must also have the same
depleted levels.
Blitz
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | M-14P valve removal |
I have two unserviceable cylinders on my work bench that I am going to sandblast,
cleanup, and make into lamps for my office. I have salvaged everything off
the cylinders except the valves and springs as I do not have a tool to compress
the springs enough to remove the keepers.
Do any of you guys have a simple shade-tree mechanic method to compress the valve
springs?
-Steve Dalton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379004#379004
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| Subject: | M-14P valve removal |
Use a long 20mm or so socket, place it over the retainer and hit with a
hammer. Clips and springs will come off.
Gill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mozam
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:14 PM
Subject: Yak-List: M-14P valve removal
I have two unserviceable cylinders on my work bench that I am going to
sandblast, cleanup, and make into lamps for my office. I have salvaged
everything off the cylinders except the valves and springs as I do not have
a tool to compress the springs enough to remove the keepers.
Do any of you guys have a simple shade-tree mechanic method to compress the
valve springs?
-Steve Dalton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379004#379004
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P valve removal |
Steve,
The Dennis Savarese Anglo American Engineering technique...get a 24 mm box end
wretch. Make a safety wire loop with heavy duty wire wrapped around the shank
of the wretch and a similar loop around the rocker arm axle. Pry up on the open
end of the wrench allowing the box end to depress the spring so the keepers
fall free.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
>From: Mozam <sdalton@hughes.net>
>Sent: Jul 23, 2012 2:14 PM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: M-14P valve removal
>
>
>I have two unserviceable cylinders on my work bench that I am going to sandblast,
cleanup, and make into lamps for my office. I have salvaged everything off
the cylinders except the valves and springs as I do not have a tool to compress
the springs enough to remove the keepers.
>
>Do any of you guys have a simple shade-tree mechanic method to compress the valve
springs?
>
>-Steve Dalton
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379004#379004
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P valve removal |
Works great as long as you have the cylinder on the engine and can apply
shop pressure to hold the valves in position.
I'm not sure if it will work with the cylinder removed. Gill's idea
might work better.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/23/2012 2:31 PM, Roger Kemp wrote:
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> Steve,
> The Dennis Savarese Anglo American Engineering technique...get a 24 mm box end
wretch. Make a safety wire loop with heavy duty wire wrapped around the shank
of the wretch and a similar loop around the rocker arm axle. Pry up on the open
end of the wrench allowing the box end to depress the spring so the keepers
fall free.
> Doc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mozam <sdalton@hughes.net>
>> Sent: Jul 23, 2012 2:14 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: M-14P valve removal
>>
>>
>> I have two unserviceable cylinders on my work bench that I am going to sandblast,
cleanup, and make into lamps for my office. I have salvaged everything off
the cylinders except the valves and springs as I do not have a tool to compress
the springs enough to remove the keepers.
>>
>> Do any of you guys have a simple shade-tree mechanic method to compress the
valve springs?
>>
>> -Steve Dalton
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379004#379004
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| Subject: | M-14P valve removal |
If one hit with hammer doesn't work, stand the cylinder up on a 2x4 or 4x4
to keep valves in place and repeat socket and hammer approach.
Gill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: M-14P valve removal
--> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Works great as long as you have the cylinder on the engine and can apply
shop pressure to hold the valves in position.
I'm not sure if it will work with the cylinder removed. Gill's idea might
work better.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 7/23/2012 2:31 PM, Roger Kemp wrote:
>
> Steve,
> The Dennis Savarese Anglo American Engineering technique...get a 24 mm box
end wretch. Make a safety wire loop with heavy duty wire wrapped around the
shank of the wretch and a similar loop around the rocker arm axle. Pry up on
the open end of the wrench allowing the box end to depress the spring so the
keepers fall free.
> Doc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mozam <sdalton@hughes.net>
>> Sent: Jul 23, 2012 2:14 PM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: M-14P valve removal
>>
>>
>> I have two unserviceable cylinders on my work bench that I am going to
sandblast, cleanup, and make into lamps for my office. I have salvaged
everything off the cylinders except the valves and springs as I do not have
a tool to compress the springs enough to remove the keepers.
>>
>> Do any of you guys have a simple shade-tree mechanic method to compress
the valve springs?
>>
>> -Steve Dalton
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379004#379004
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P valve removal |
Awesome guys, worked like a champ.
I found it worked best with a 12" long 2x4 in the cylinder, lay the cylinder on
its side, and jam the free end of the 2x4 against my bench's vise. This allowed
the keepers to more easily fall out than when upright.
Question: are the intake/exhaust springs, washers, keepers, etc all identical,
or exhaust and intake specific?
Thanks again. I'll post a picture of my expensive lamps when I finish them.
-Steve Dalton
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379045#379045
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| Subject: | Re: M-14P valve removal |
Ingenuity out of the necessity of need.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:42 PM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
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> Awesome guys, worked like a champ.
>
> I found it worked best with a 12" long 2x4 in the cylinder, lay the cylinder
on its side, and jam the free end of the 2x4 against my bench's vise. This allowed
the keepers to more easily fall out than when upright.
>
> Question: are the intake/exhaust springs, washers, keepers, etc all identical,
or exhaust and intake specific?
>
> Thanks again. I'll post a picture of my expensive lamps when I finish them.
>
> -Steve Dalton
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379045#379045
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