---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/18/12: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:01 AM - Re: alternator failure CJ6 (James Goolsby) 2. 06:51 AM - Fw: Geroge Myers passing? (cjpilot710@aol.com) 3. 06:54 AM - Re: alternator failure CJ6 (Bill Geipel) 4. 08:39 AM - George Mayer gone west (Brian Lloyd) 5. 10:43 AM - Re: George Mayer gone west (James Goolsby) 6. 10:50 AM - Re: George Mayer gone west (James Goolsby) 7. 11:01 AM - Re: George Mayer gone west (Brian Lloyd) 8. 11:05 AM - (James Goolsby) 9. 11:39 AM - Re: (Roger Kemp M.D.) 10. 01:24 PM - Re: Fw: Geroge Myers passing? (Bill Tally) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:33 AM PST US From: James Goolsby Subject: Re: Yak-List: alternator failure CJ6 Hate to change the subject, but I believe George Mayer has passed away. No d etails. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Paul Lewis wrote: > Brian, I am curious as to how you would convert to an external regulator? > > It has been several years since I have had one of these alternators open. A s I recall I removed the diode trio and removed the regulator module. (Both a re replaceable.) The brushes are then connected to the #1 and #2 terminals. N ow the #1 and #2 terminals are direct connection to the field and that is wh ere the external voltage regulator is connected. > > As to how you then connect the new field terminals on the alternator it de pends on whether your external regulator is a "high side" or "low side" regu lator. A "high side" regulator controls bus current going to the field and t hen to ground. A "low side" regulator controls the current in the field goin g to ground and the other side of the field is connected to the aircraft pow er bus. > > In the case of a "high side" regulator one of the terminals on the alterna tor will connect to the field output of the regulator and the other terminal on the alternator will connect to ground. If the regulator is a "low side" r egulator, one field terminal on the alternator will connect to the field ter minal of the regulator and the other field terminal on the alternator will c onnect to the bus or 'B' terminal. > > The alternator can be enabled or disabled by providing an SPST switch in s eries with one of the field terminals, usually the one going to ground ("hig h side" regulator) or to the power bus ("low side" regulator). BTW, this swi tch is exactly how the existing generator on/off switch works and the existi ng generator on/off switch may be used for this purpose so all the cockpit f unctions remain the same. > > -- > Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL > 3191 Western Dr. > Cameron Park, CA 95682 > brian@lloyd.com > +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) > +1.916.877.5067 (USA) > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:17 AM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Geroge Myers passing? Damn! ____________________________________ From: scgsmg@bellsouth.net Sent: 9/18/2012 9:38:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: Geroge Myers passing? Jim, George crashed on Sunday at Moontown. He was #3 in a three ship doing an in trail barrel roll over the field. Dished out of the roll, pulled too hard and stalled. Straight in from there. He had a 17 yr old in the rear seat, Gordy's future son-in-law. Gonna miss him. Shane >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. -------- Original message -------- Subject: Geroge Myers passing? From: cjpilot710@aol.com mdshelley@aol.com,walterfricke@yahoo.com,dabear@damned.org, dandmaz@cox.com,cj6apilot@gmail.com,KILOUSMC@aol.com, cd001633@mindspring.com,N23GD@YAHOO.COM, rcollings@collingsfoundation.org,jtobul@tobul.com,dandmaz@cox.net, swifty305@bellsouth.net,ByronMFox@aol.com,JandEFinley@comcast.net, BKENNAMORE@aol.com,bfischer@eaa.org,judgeright@juno.com, kenterry@cfl.rr.com,bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com,Hess737@aol.com, jblake207@comcast.net,jfird@direcway.com,jhrollison@jccomp.com, ARagheb@aol.com,Jwfordham@aol.com,scgsmg@bellsouth.net, Frenese@aol.com,jhrollison@jcis.net,rlanger2@comcast.net, bill.mills@tbdpartners.com,sdalton@hughes.net,wildf15c@gmail.com, jhrollison@sbcglobal.net,motnosam1@gmail.com,randmyak52@bellsouth.net, boswell.bruce@gmail.com,Duncan1574@sbcglobal.net, michaelfoster@bellsouth.net,jefflinebaugh@gmail.com, Albatrosslady@msn.com,gardnerpilot@earthlink.net,byronmfox@gmail.com, hank.gibson@fnf.com,dmcgirt@gmail.com,bill@yakrobatics.com, ni909ne@hotmail.com,kimberly@wingsoverflagler.com,bkennamore@aol.com, chuck.hickey@coair.com,julieinthesky@netscape.net, chuck.hickey@united.com,cpayne@joimail.com CC: Guys, I just got a FB message that George Myers passed away on Sunday. No details. He was one of our Yak guys, from Moontown and a real joy to be around. He was at OSH this years and we had a lot of fun together. Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: alternator failure CJ6 From: Bill Geipel It's on line. Straight in. Bill On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:58 AM, James Goolsby wrote: > Hate to change the subject, but I believe George Mayer has passed away. N o details. > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:30 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Paul Lewis wrote : >> Brian, I am curious as to how you would convert to an external regulator? >> >> It has been several years since I have had one of these alternators open. As I recall I removed the diode trio and removed the regulator module. (Bot h are replaceable.) The brushes are then connected to the #1 and #2 terminal s. Now the #1 and #2 terminals are direct connection to the field and that i s where the external voltage regulator is connected. >> >> As to how you then connect the new field terminals on the alternator it d epends on whether your external regulator is a "high side" or "low side" reg ulator. A "high side" regulator controls bus current going to the field and t hen to ground. A "low side" regulator controls the current in the field goin g to ground and the other side of the field is connected to the aircraft pow er bus. >> >> In the case of a "high side" regulator one of the terminals on the altern ator will connect to the field output of the regulator and the other termina l on the alternator will connect to ground. If the regulator is a "low side" regulator, one field terminal on the alternator will connect to the field t erminal of the regulator and the other field terminal on the alternator will connect to the bus or 'B' terminal. >> >> The alternator can be enabled or disabled by providing an SPST switch in s eries with one of the field terminals, usually the one going to ground ("hig h side" regulator) or to the power bus ("low side" regulator). BTW, this swi tch is exactly how the existing generator on/off switch works and the existi ng generator on/off switch may be used for this purpose so all the cockpit f unctions remain the same. >> >> -- >> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL >> 3191 Western Dr. >> Cameron Park, CA 95682 >> brian@lloyd.com >> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) >> +1.916.877.5067 (USA) >> >> >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:26 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: George Mayer gone west From: Brian Lloyd On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Bill Geipel wrote: > It's on line. Straight in. > > > Bill > > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:58 AM, James Goolsby wrote: > > Hate to change the subject, but I believe George Mayer has passed away. > No details. > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > Love you guys, but it is probably time for a new subject line. People looking to discuss George's passing probably aren't going to look under the alternator thread so I started this new one for you. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: George Mayer gone west From: James Goolsby Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Bill Geipel wro te: > It's on line. Straight in. > > > Bill > > > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:58 AM, James Goolsby wrote: > >> Hate to change the subject, but I believe George Mayer has passed away. N o details. >> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > Love you guys, but it is probably time for a new subject line. People look ing to discuss George's passing probably aren't going to look under the alte rnator thread so I started this new one for you. > > -- > Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL > 3191 Western Dr. > Cameron Park, CA 95682 > brian@lloyd.com > +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) > +1.916.877.5067 (USA) > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: George Mayer gone west From: James Goolsby I didn't mean to change subject, but I was using my IPad and screwed up tryi ng to get the word out on George. Actually fascinated over turning a 14v alternator into a 28v one. Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. Sorry Jim "Pappy" Goolsby On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Bill Geipel wro te: > It's on line. Straight in. > > > Bill > > > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:58 AM, James Goolsby wrote: > >> Hate to change the subject, but I believe George Mayer has passed away. N o details. >> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > Love you guys, but it is probably time for a new subject line. People look ing to discuss George's passing probably aren't going to look under the alte rnator thread so I started this new one for you. > > -- > Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL > 3191 Western Dr. > Cameron Park, CA 95682 > brian@lloyd.com > +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) > +1.916.877.5067 (USA) > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: George Mayer gone west From: Brian Lloyd On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM, James Goolsby wrote: > I didn't mean to change subject, but I was using my IPad and screwed up > trying to get the word out on George. > > Actually fascinated over turning a 14v alternator into a 28v one. > Then we need to take that back over to the alternator thread. If you really are interested then ask me back over on that thread. Deeply sorry to hear about George. > > Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. > > Sorry > No worries! > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 brian@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.916.877.5067 (USA) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:05 AM PST US From: James Goolsby Test Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:20 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Bounce from the other side of third rock and somewhere. ;^)) Doc Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:02 PM, James Goolsby wrote: > > Test > > Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun. > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:05 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Fwd: Geroge Myers passing? From: "Bill Tally" Needless to say, this was a tragic event. Two very fine people were lost in this crash. George was the former owner of Moontown and was a true and loyal friend to all who knew him. The young man in the back seat was an outstanding high school student who loved flying. 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