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1. 02:19 AM - Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. (Etienne Verhellen)
2. 06:50 AM - Latest Yak Air System GPA (Rico Jaeger)
3. 11:28 AM - Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
4. 04:17 PM - Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. (Roger Kemp M.D.)
5. 05:25 PM - Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. (Bill Geipel)
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| Subject: | Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
valuable learning points for us all.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
just read it for your own benefit.
FLY safe. Have FUN.
Etienne.
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod@scarlet.be.11.12.2008/yak52.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113478
http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113628
http://youtu.be/bSswo8pwly0
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01058969
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006519020/in/photostream/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006522950/in/photostream/lightbox/
http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
And a few pics ... ;-)
8)
This is the YAK list after all ...
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_610.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_report_yak_52_ra_3585k_28_april_2011_170.pdf
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| Subject: | Latest Yak Air System GPA |
(GPA = Giant Pain in the *ss!)
OK...to get you back up to speed: my emergency air was opened a couple
months ago. Upon resetting the system back to primary, there were one or
more significant leaks in the system. Per credible guidance, I pulled all 3
landing gear shuttle valves and discovered the black rubber balls were
indeed deformed - thus improperly sealing the valve. I bought shuttle valve
kits from Jill and went through the valves. My new dilemma is
re-installation. There are 4 "rings" on the shuttle valve outlet that is
inserted into the actuator: 2 rubber "O" rings and 2 nylon split rings.
When I pulled the valves, they required appreciable force to remove. It
stands to figure then that the same would be required for re-installation.
My 1st attempt (Starboard main) met w/ considerable resistance. Upon trying
to "coax" the valve into place, I noticed the aft nylon split ring
beginning to fragment. Removal of the valve showed that the aforementioned
ring was indeed now "toast." I removed that ring and re-installed one of
the original split rings - which (at least under inspection w/ the Mk. I
Eyeball) appeared to be in serviceable condition. I then liberally
lubricated the insert point w/ machine oil. This seemed to have absolutely
no effect. What I'm wondering is...what is the "hot tip" for
re-installation? NOTE: upon working 8 times longer than I'd anticipated
inside the (approximately) 8" x 8" access opening to "remove" (WRESTLE
WITH!) the valves in the 1st place, I thought it wise to safety wire
everything before mounting the valve, IE: I lifted the valve into the
maintenance cavity and attached / torqued the air lines, safety-wired as
required and THEN attempted to insert the valve outlet into the actuator.
(Air lines were carefully positioned to facilitate installation) Is my
installment sequence in error? Or is there simply a "trick" I'm missing?
Talk to me, guys...THANX! Rico
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| Subject: | Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed, then
I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
Mark Bitterlich
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Etienne Verhellen
Sent: Tue 9/25/2012 5:17 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
valuable learning points for us all.
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
just read it for your own benefit.
FLY safe. Have FUN.
Etienne.
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod@scarlet.be.11.12.2008/yak52.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113478
http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113628
http://youtu.be/bSswo8pwly0
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01058969
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006519020/in/photostream/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006522950/in/photostream/lightbox/
http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
And a few pics ... ;-)
8)
This is the YAK list after all ...
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
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http://persoon.yasni.be/etienne+verhellen+1315762
http://flightplanet.com/other_advert_det.php?id=146
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383946#383946
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_19_180812_138.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_11_180812_116.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/picslens2_1_496.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_610.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_report_yak_52_ra_3585k_28_april_2011_170.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
Etienne,
Thanks for posting. Was a good read. A lot of insight. Bottom line, as the old
adage goes, always try to fly in middle of the boundaries of the atmosphere. Flying
to close to the edges begs to flirt with disaster. Always give yourself
enough altitude for at least two "Oh Shits".
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:24 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>
> I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed,
then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Etienne Verhellen
> Sent: Tue 9/25/2012 5:17 AM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
>
>
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> AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
>
> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
>
> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
>
> Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
>
> And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
> valuable learning points for us all.
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
> http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
>
> Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
> just read it for your own benefit.
>
> FLY safe. Have FUN.
>
> Etienne.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod@scarlet.be.11.12.2008/yak52.jpg
>
> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113478
> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113628
> http://youtu.be/bSswo8pwly0
> http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01058969
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006519020/in/photostream/lightbox/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006522950/in/photostream/lightbox/
> http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
>
> And a few pics ... ;-)
> 8)
>
> This is the YAK list after all ...
> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
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> http://persoon.yasni.be/etienne+verhellen+1315762
> http://flightplanet.com/other_advert_det.php?id=146
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383946#383946
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_19_180812_138.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_11_180812_116.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picslens2_1_496.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_610.pdf
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_report_yak_52_ra_3585k_28_april_2011_170.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK. |
Good info. Something to think about since we all tail chase. Appreciate the thought
provoking post.
Bill
On Sep 25, 2012, at 5:14 PM, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Etienne,
> Thanks for posting. Was a good read. A lot of insight. Bottom line, as the old
adage goes, always try to fly in middle of the boundaries of the atmosphere.
Flying to close to the edges begs to flirt with disaster. Always give yourself
enough altitude for at least two "Oh Shits".
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 25, 2012, at 1:24 PM, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14
64E" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have not read this yet Etienne, but if you don't want something discussed,
then I would suggest that you not post it on a discussion list.
>>
>> Mark Bitterlich
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Etienne Verhellen
>> Sent: Tue 9/25/2012 5:17 AM
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> AAIB Yak-52 Accident report / RA-3585K / 28 April 2011 - UK :
>>
>> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bulletins/september_2012/yak_52__ra_3585k.cfm
>>
>> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Yak-52%20RA-3585K%2009-12.pdf
>>
>> Some very interesting comments. For various reasons.
>>
>> And as always in such unfortunate circumstances,
>> valuable learning points for us all.
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_363.pdf
>> http://www.emagazine.flightinternational.com/1Z4dd63f96463e4012.cde/page/downloadPDF.php?id=14895&pages=497523
>>
>> Don't wish to open a Yak-list discussion about this report
>> just read it for your own benefit.
>>
>> FLY safe. Have FUN.
>>
>> Etienne.
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tis1_verod@scarlet.be.11.12.2008/yak52.jpg
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113478
>> http://www.pbase.com/fournier/image/146113628
>> http://youtu.be/bSswo8pwly0
>> http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=01058969
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006519020/in/photostream/lightbox/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/benoit871/8006522950/in/photostream/lightbox/
>> http://www.gravitypark.be/Galerie/2008YakFlyin/tabid/224/Default.aspx
>>
>> And a few pics ... ;-)
>> 8)
>>
>> This is the YAK list after all ...
>> http://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/233409/oe-eas-the-flying-bulls-vought-f4u-corsair/
>>
>> --------
>> http://persoon.yasni.be/etienne+verhellen+1315762
>> http://flightplanet.com/other_advert_det.php?id=146
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383946#383946
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>> Attachments:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_19_180812_138.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_cbss_yak_52_zoersel_11_180812_116.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picslens2_1_496.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/flight_international_yak_52_issues_original_610.pdf
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/accident_report_yak_52_ra_3585k_28_april_2011_170.pdf
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