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4. 08:53 AM - Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble (Patrick Ashura)
5. 03:31 PM - Re: My final word on how I feel. (mmayfield)
6. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: My final word on how I feel. (Walter Lannon)
7. 05:22 PM - Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble (n4829t@aol.com)
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9. 06:26 PM - Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble (Robin Hou)
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| Subject: | CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
Hello,
I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I
believed it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole
carburetor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do
a run-up on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the
prop through about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had
sat for so long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was
normal. Once the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I
went to stat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went
around about 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the
left exhaust. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There were a
few gallons of 100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas
left in the plane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So I
had the plane filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I went to turn
the prop again and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I turned the prop
in reverse about a turn and a half. Then back in the normal direction, after
a turn and a half it stopped in the same spot. It felt much more stiff
turning it than usual, and turning it forward it does not move an inch once
it hits the spot where it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spark plugs and
nothing came out. I tried to pull it through again and it still wouldn't
budge.
Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't any
oil in there to do so.
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
I am afraid Richard is right. You may have had a hydraulic lock, which bent
a rod, thus that piston skirt has drop below the cylinder bottom, just far e
nough that its scraper ring has sprung out and is stopping the piston from m
oving back up the cylinder. Very bad news I hate to say.
Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
wrote:
> I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock!
>
> Richard Goode Aerobatics
> Rhodds Farm
> Lyonshall
> Hereford
> HR5 3LW
>
> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
> www.russianaeros.com
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
> Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
>
> Hello,
>
> I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I be
lieved it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carbure
tor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run-u
p on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the prop t
hrough about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat for s
o long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was normal. O
nce the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I went to s
tat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went around abo
ut 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the left exhaust
. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There were a few gallons of
100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas left in the pl
ane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So I had the plane
filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I went to turn the prop again
and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I turned the prop in reverse abo
ut a turn and a half. Then back in the normal direction, after a turn and a h
alf it stopped in the same spot. It felt much more stiff turning it than usu
al, and turning it forward it does not move an inch once it hits the spot wh
ere it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spark plugs and nothing came out. I tr
ied to pull it through again and it still wouldn't budge.
>
> Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't any o
il in there to do so.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
> www.aeroelectric.com
> www.buildersbooks.com
> www.homebuilthelp.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
Yeahhh
But question is how could that happen?
The guy pulled a good number of blades even if there ain't a good number. Bu
t he did like the book say and ..... Bad news. How can we avoid this?
Didier Blouzard
+33 6 5184 4802
Le 3 nov. 2012 =C3- 11:31, James Goolsby <cjpilot710@aol.com> a =C3=A9crit
:
> I am afraid Richard is right. You may have had a hydraulic lock, which be
nt a rod, thus that piston skirt has drop below the cylinder bottom, just fa
r enough that its scraper ring has sprung out and is stopping the piston fro
m moving back up the cylinder. Very bad news I hate to say.
>
> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.co
m> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock!
>>
>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>> Rhodds Farm
>> Lyonshall
>> Hereford
>> HR5 3LW
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>> www.russianaeros.com
>>
>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
>> Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I b
elieved it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carbur
etor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run-
up on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the prop t
hrough about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat for s
o long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was normal. O
nce the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I went to s
tat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went around abo
ut 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the left exhaust
. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There were a few gallons of
100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas left in the pl
ane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So I had the plane
filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I went to turn the prop again
and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I turned the prop in reverse abo
ut a turn and a half. Then back in the normal direction, after a turn and a h
alf it stopped in the same spot. It felt much more stiff turning it than usu
al, and turning it forward it does not move an inch once it hits the spot wh
ere it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spark plugs and nothing came out. I tr
ied to pull it through again and it still wouldn't budge.
>>
>> Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't any
oil in there to do so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> www.aeroelectric.com
>> www.buildersbooks.com
>> www.homebuilthelp.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
Sounds like intake tubes were not drained- you can pull it through 100 times
and no help- PJ
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:47, Didier BLOUZARD <didier.blouzard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeahhh
> But question is how could that happen?
> The guy pulled a good number of blades even if there ain't a good number. B
ut he did like the book say and ..... Bad news. How can we avoid this?
>
> Didier Blouzard
> +33 6 5184 4802
>
> Le 3 nov. 2012 =C3- 11:31, James Goolsby <cjpilot710@aol.com> a =C3=A9cr
it :
>
>> I am afraid Richard is right. You may have had a hydraulic lock, which b
ent a rod, thus that piston skirt has drop below the cylinder bottom, just f
ar enough that its scraper ring has sprung out and is stopping the piston fr
om moving back up the cylinder. Very bad news I hate to say.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.c
om> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock
!
>>>
>>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>> Rhodds Farm
>>> Lyonshall
>>> Hereford
>>> HR5 3LW
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>> www.russianaeros.com
>>>
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
>>> Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I b
elieved it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carbur
etor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run-
up on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the prop t
hrough about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat for s
o long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was normal. O
nce the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I went to s
tat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went around abo
ut 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the left exhaust
. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There were a few gallons of
100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas left in the pl
ane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So I had the plane
filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I went to turn the prop again
and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I turned the prop in reverse abo
ut a turn and a half. Then back in the normal direction, after a turn and a h
alf it stopped in the same spot. It felt much more stiff turning it than usu
al, and turning it forward it does not move an inch once it hits the spot wh
ere it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spark plugs and nothing came out. I tr
ied to pull it through again and it still wouldn't budge.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't an
y oil in there to do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> www.aeroelectric.com
>>> www.buildersbooks.com
>>> www.homebuilthelp.com
>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
>
> Roger that! Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> --
Please don't patronise me, Mark. I was responding to multiple political rants which
suddenly invoked all sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil hat wearing"
paranoia. If you want to be a part of that, by all means go ahead, it is your
democratic right and I support that right, even if the result is just nuts.
I am NOT a socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16 years as
a military officer and have the active service medals to prove it. So what? This
means very little, other than to demonstrate to you that your preconceived
views may not be justified, and the dripping sarcasm of the "fond farewell" towards
me might have been premature.
But the economic problems around the world (anyone reading this list would think
it's only the USA) which are causing most of the current turmoil are multi-faceted
and extremely complex. Indeed, some of the root causes themselves go back
to excessively deregulated banking systems and inherent human greed. From reading
the comments here, many of you guys should be real happy about that. Deregulation
and freedom to do what you want, when you want. Isn't that exactly
what you're after? It was George W Bush who had to initiate a Government bailout
of the system, which then had to be continued by Obama. I'm not making a personal
judgement on either. I'm just saying that both of them had to do what they
had to do.
Anyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some individual cases quite
extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyone. I am an Australian (and
Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himself, NOT for all Aussies) and
patriotic about my country. I have many great friends and direct family relatives
in the USA too, have visited many times and enjoyed my time there. I hope
that not only the USA, but the entire world will emerge from these tough economic
times and I am sure they will. But these economic problems, in reality, are
not unique to so-called "socialist" Governments and in most cases have brewed
over many years of various different flavours of Government - even Conservative
ones. That's the reality.
I lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moderate ground.
The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms, and they're getting
worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent views, possible to hold
moderate political views and still be pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and yes,
even patriotic.
By the way, I called some commentary here "drivel". By that I mean just a generic
term for partisan political rants. That wasn't intended to be a personal insult
to the particular individual/s who may indeed be very nice people to meet
over a beer, and I apologise if they took it that way. But certain individuals
seem to have turned that around on me and made it personal. You know who you
are.
We here and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and nothing will
change that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa. Don't have a dummy-spit
if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life whichever side wins and have
your say again next time around. That applies to BOTH sides. That's the end
of my rant (but at least it's not politically partisan). I figure if everyone
else wants to have one, I'm probably entitled to one too. Democracy, right?
;)
--------
Mike
Your political opinions are noted. And ignored.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386682#386682
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
Mike;
Well said and right on the money. Thank you.
Walt
-----Original Message-----
From: mmayfield
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
>
> Roger that! Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> --
Please don't patronise me, Mark. I was responding to multiple political
rants which suddenly invoked all sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil hat
wearing" paranoia. If you want to be a part of that, by all means go ahead,
it is your democratic right and I support that right, even if the result is
just nuts.
I am NOT a socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16 years
as a military officer and have the active service medals to prove it. So
what? This means very little, other than to demonstrate to you that your
preconceived views may not be justified, and the dripping sarcasm of the
"fond farewell" towards me might have been premature.
But the economic problems around the world (anyone reading this list would
think it's only the USA) which are causing most of the current turmoil are
multi-faceted and extremely complex. Indeed, some of the root causes
themselves go back to excessively deregulated banking systems and inherent
human greed. From reading the comments here, many of you guys should be real
happy about that. Deregulation and freedom to do what you want, when you
want. Isn't that exactly what you're after? It was George W Bush who had to
initiate a Government bailout of the system, which then had to be continued
by Obama. I'm not making a personal judgement on either. I'm just saying
that both of them had to do what they had to do.
Anyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some individual cases
quite extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyone. I am an
Australian (and Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himself, NOT for
all Aussies) and patriotic about my country. I have many great friends and
direct family relatives in the USA too, have visited many times and enjoyed
my time there. I hope that not only the USA, but the entire world will
emerge from these tough economic times and I am sure they will. But these
economic problems, in reality, are not unique to so-called "socialist"
Governments and in most cases have brewed over many years of various
different flavours of Government - even Conservative ones. That's the
reality.
I lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moderate
ground. The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms, and
they're getting worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent views,
possible to hold moderate political views and still be pro-democracy,
pro-freedom, and yes, even patriotic.
By the way, I called some commentary here "drivel". By that I mean just a
generic term for partisan political rants. That wasn't intended to be a
personal insult to the particular individual/s who may indeed be very nice
people to meet over a beer, and I apologise if they took it that way. But
certain individuals seem to have turned that around on me and made it
personal. You know who you are.
We here and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and nothing
will change that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa. Don't have a
dummy-spit if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life whichever side
wins and have your say again next time around. That applies to BOTH sides.
That's the end of my rant (but at least it's not politically partisan). I
figure if everyone else wants to have one, I'm probably entitled to one too.
Democracy, right? ;)
--------
Mike
Your political opinions are noted. And ignored.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386682#386682
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
You can pull the plugs from lower cylinders 5 and 6 and drain all the oil, b
ut still have quite a bit more in the intakes.... So, the cylinder appears c
lear until you start and the oil in the intake dumps into the cylinder causi
ng hydraulic lock and destroying your motor. It's best to drain BOTH the cyl
inders and the lower intakes... When in doubt, take em out!
Jim P.
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Didier BLOUZARD <didier.blouzard@gmail.com> wrot
e:
> Yeahhh
> But question is how could that happen?
> The guy pulled a good number of blades even if there ain't a good number. B
ut he did like the book say and ..... Bad news. How can we avoid this?
>
> Didier Blouzard
> +33 6 5184 4802
>
> Le 3 nov. 2012 =C3- 11:31, James Goolsby <cjpilot710@aol.com> a =C3=A9cr
it :
>
>> I am afraid Richard is right. You may have had a hydraulic lock, which b
ent a rod, thus that piston skirt has drop below the cylinder bottom, just f
ar enough that its scraper ring has sprung out and is stopping the piston fr
om moving back up the cylinder. Very bad news I hate to say.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Goode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.c
om> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock
!
>>>
>>> Richard Goode Aerobatics
>>> Rhodds Farm
>>> Lyonshall
>>> Hereford
>>> HR5 3LW
>>>
>>> Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
>>> www.russianaeros.com
>>>
>>> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
>>> Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
>>> To: yak-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I b
elieved it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carbur
etor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run-
up on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the prop t
hrough about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat for s
o long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was normal. O
nce the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I went to s
tat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went around abo
ut 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the left exhaust
. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There were a few gallons of
100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas left in the pl
ane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So I had the plane
filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I went to turn the prop again
and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I turned the prop in reverse abo
ut a turn and a half. Then back in the normal direction, after a turn and a h
alf it stopped in the same spot. It felt much more stiff turning it than usu
al, and turning it forward it does not move an inch once it hits the spot wh
ere it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spark plugs and nothing came out. I tr
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>>>
>>> Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't an
y oil in there to do so.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
Mike, Well said and thank you.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A
From: Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com =0ASent:
Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:11 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Re: My final w
lannon@shaw.ca>=0A=0AMike;=0A=0AWell said and right on the money.- Thank
you.=0A=0AWalt=0A=0A-----Original Message----- From: mmayfield=0ASent: Sat
urday, November 03, 2012 3:28 PM=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Ya
k-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.=0A=0A--> Yak-List message posted b
y: "mmayfield" <mmayfield@ozemail.com.au>=0A=0A=0Amark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
wrote:=0A> =0A> Roger that!- Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.=0A
> =0A> Mark Bitterlich=0A> =0A> =0A> --=0A=0A=0APlease don't patronise me,
Mark. I was responding to multiple political rants which suddenly invoked a
ll sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil hat wearing" paranoia. If you wan
t to be a part of that, by all means go ahead, it is your democratic right
and I support that right, even if the result is just nuts.=0A=0AI am NOT a
socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16 years as a mili
tary officer and have the active service medals to prove it. So what? This
means very little, other than to demonstrate to you that your preconceived
views may not be justified, and the dripping sarcasm of the "fond farewell"
towards me might have been premature.=0A=0ABut the economic problems aroun
d the world (anyone reading this list would think it's only the USA) which
are causing most of the current turmoil are multi-faceted and extremely com
plex. Indeed, some of the root causes themselves go back to excessively der
egulated banking systems and inherent human greed. From reading the comment
s here, many of you guys should be real happy about that. Deregulation and
freedom to do what you want, when you want. Isn't that exactly what you're
after? It was George W Bush who had to initiate a Government bailout of the
system, which then had to be continued by Obama. I'm not making a personal
judgement on either. I'm just saying that both of them had to do what they
had to do.=0A=0AAnyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some i
ndividual cases quite extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyo
ne. I am an Australian (and Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himsel
f, NOT for all Aussies) and patriotic about my country. I have many great f
riends and direct family relatives in the USA too, have visited many times
and enjoyed my time there. I hope that not only the USA, but the entire wor
ld will emerge from these tough economic times and I am sure they will. But
these economic problems, in reality, are not unique to so-called "socialis
t" Governments and in most cases have brewed over many years of various dif
ferent flavours of Government - even Conservative ones. That's the reality.
=0A=0AI lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moder
ate ground. The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms, a
nd they're getting worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent view
s, possible to hold moderate political views and still be pro-democracy, pr
o-freedom, and yes, even patriotic.=0A=0ABy the way, I called some commenta
ry here "drivel". By that I mean just a generic term for partisan political
rants. That wasn't intended to be a personal insult to the particular indi
vidual/s who may indeed be very nice people to meet over a beer, and I apol
ogise if they took it that way. But certain individuals seem to have turned
that around on me and made it personal. You know who you are.=0A=0AWe here
and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and nothing will cha
nge that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa. Don't have a dummy-s
pit if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life whichever side wins an
d have your say again next time around. That applies to BOTH sides. That's
the end of my rant (but at least it's not politically partisan). I figure i
f everyone else wants to have one, I'm probably entitled to one too. Democr
acy, right? ;)=0A=0A--------=0AMike=0A=0AYour political opinions are noted.
And ignored.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums
.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386682#386682=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
-=- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Drall
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| Subject: | Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
But, if Tom could freely turn his engine 15 or more blades before start, wo
uldn't that clear most oil in both cylinders and intake pipes? I mean, any
oil in intake pipes would be sucked into cylinders then dumped into exhaust
pipes, no?=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "n4829t@aol.c
om" <n4829t@aol.com>=0ATo: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com
> =0ASent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: CJ-6
Engine Trouble=0A =0A=0AYou can pull the plugs from -lower cylinders 5 a
nd 6 and drain all the oil, but still have quite a bit more in the intakes.
... So, the cylinder appears clear until you start and the oil in the intak
e dumps into the cylinder causing hydraulic lock and destroying your motor.
It's best to drain BOTH the cylinders and the lower intakes... When in dou
bt, take em out!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AJim P.=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Nov 3,
2012, at 9:47 AM, Didier BLOUZARD <didier.blouzard@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0A
=0AYeahhh=0A>But question is how could that happen?=0A>The guy pulled a goo
d number of blades even if there ain't a good number. But he did like the b
ook say and ..... Bad news. How can we avoid this?=0A>=0A>Didier Blouzard
=0A>+33 6 5184 4802=0A>=0A>Le 3 nov. 2012 =E0 11:31, James Goolsby <cjpilot
710@aol.com> a =E9crit-:=0A>=0A>=0A>I am afraid Richard is right. -You
may have had a hydraulic lock, which bent a rod, thus that piston skirt has
drop below the cylinder bottom, just far enough that its scraper ring has
sprung out and is stopping the piston from moving back up the cylinder. -
Very bad news I hate to say.=0A>>=0A>>Sent from my iPad from some where on
The 3rd rock from the Sun.=0A>>=0A>>On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Go
ode" <richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I'm sorry to say
, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock!=0A>>>-=0A>>>Ric
hard Goode Aerobatics=0A>>>Rhodds Farm=0A>>>Lyonshall=0A>>>Hereford=0A>>>HR
5 3LW=0A>>>-=0A>>>Tel:- +44 (0) 1544 340120=0A>>>Fax: +44 (0) 1544 3401
29=0A>>>www.russianaeros.com=0A>>>-=0A>>>From:owner-yak-list-server@matro
nics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas M
cKeon=0A>>>Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36=0A>>>To: yak-list@matronics.com=0A>
>>Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble=0A>>>-=0A>>>Hello,=0A>>>-=0A>>
>I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I be
lieved it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carbur
etor with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run
-up on the plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the pro
p through about 15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat
for so long. As I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was no
rmal. Once the oil stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I w
ent to stat the engine. The engine started to turn over and the prop went a
round about 4 times and then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the le
ft exhaust. I assumed it stopped because I was out of gas (There-were a f
ew gallons of 100LL previously used during run-ups). I had very little gas
left in the plane and I wasn't feeling a lot of pressure on the primer. So
I had the plane filled with gas. After topping off with 100LL I
went to turn the prop again and it wouldn't budge. It was stuck solid. I t
urned the prop in reverse about a turn and a half. Then back in the normal
direction, after a turn and a half it stopped in the same spot. It felt muc
h more stiff turning it than usual, and turning it forward it does not move
an inch once it hits the spot where it stopped. I pulled the bottom 4 spar
k plugs and nothing came out. I tried to pull it through again and it still
wouldn't budge.=0A>>>-=0A>>>Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it
, but I know there wasn't any oil in there to do so.=0A>>>=0A>>>Thanks,=0A>
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