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1. 08:58 AM - Re: Looking for a one of a kind Super CJ? (barryhancock)
2. 09:00 AM - Re: In 1953 We Flew the MIG-15 (barryhancock)
3. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: My final word on how I feel. (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
4. 10:08 AM - Re: CJ-6 Engine Trouble (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
5. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: My final word on how I feel. (andres)
6. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: My final word on how I feel. (George Coy)
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| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a one of a kind Super CJ? |
Hi Blitz,
That is for sure true! Mine doesn't have the custom cowl, winglets, fuel injected
motor, or lots of other extravagant mods that Hal's spaceship has. Notice
I didn't say mine is the "most highly and extravagantly modified" airplane, I
said most extensively *refurbished.* The plane was taken completely apart and
rebuilt from the airframe up. Just a few examples:
-completely replaced all pneumatic lines using AN bulkhead fittings, walnut blocks,
and urethane paint (they are all straight, and show quality).
-ALL valves overhauled
-rebuilt landing gear including seals and chevrons
-show quality control surfaces done by Chuck Pozanek (a legend in the wood/fabric
world) with integrated trim tabs on the 3 axis electric trim
-chrome dress kit on engine and EVERYTHING FWF detailed in 2011
-new control cables
-Entire aircraft rewired with combed and laced wiring to show quality standards.
And the state of the art avionics package was completed last year. Oh, and it has
a 4 camera HD digital video system.
Every major system and component in the aircraft now has 250 hours on it, or less.
The bugs are worked out, the engine is broken in, and it will be a very good
airplane for a very long time to come. But, alas, no Bentley smell.
[Wink]
I intended to keep this plane forever, and took full advantage of my shop benefits
to make it exactly the way I think a world class CJ should be. It was the
last plane to leave my shop before we closed down in CA. I want to fly heavy
iron some day and it no longer makes sense for me to keep the CJ when I have plenty
of opportunity to fly them with Worldwide Warbirds stuff. I'd prefer to
trade the CJ for a nice T-6, but I'll likely get more for my CJ than the type
of T-6 I'm interested in buying.
Cheers,
Barry
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
www.worldwidewarbirds.com
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| Subject: | Re: In 1953 We Flew the MIG-15 |
Hey Doc,
Was that before or after the horse drawn carriage you drove to college? :P
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Barry Hancock
Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
(877) 869-6458
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
Good luck telling other people what you feel they should (or should not)
post on this list.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
Either leave, or don't leave.
Mark Bitterlich
p.s. And if you feel like I was patronizing you, well then..... "Take
care, good luck and fond farewell"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mmayfield
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 15:29
Subject: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
>
> Roger that! Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> --
Please don't patronise me, Mark. I was responding to multiple political
rants which suddenly invoked all sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil
hat wearing" paranoia. If you want to be a part of that, by all means go
ahead, it is your democratic right and I support that right, even if the
result is just nuts.
I am NOT a socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16
years as a military officer and have the active service medals to prove
it. So what? This means very little, other than to demonstrate to you
that your preconceived views may not be justified, and the dripping
sarcasm of the "fond farewell" towards me might have been premature.
But the economic problems around the world (anyone reading this list
would think it's only the USA) which are causing most of the current
turmoil are multi-faceted and extremely complex. Indeed, some of the
root causes themselves go back to excessively deregulated banking
systems and inherent human greed. From reading the comments here, many
of you guys should be real happy about that. Deregulation and freedom to
do what you want, when you want. Isn't that exactly what you're after?
It was George W Bush who had to initiate a Government bailout of the
system, which then had to be continued by Obama. I'm not making a
personal judgement on either. I'm just saying that both of them had to
do what they had to do.
Anyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some individual
cases quite extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyone. I
am an Australian (and Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himself,
NOT for all Aussies) and patriotic about my country. I have many great
friends and direct family relatives in the USA too, have visited many
times and enjoyed my time there. I hope that not only the USA, but the
entire world will emerge from these tough economic times and I am sure
they will. But these economic problems, in reality, are not unique to
so-called "socialist" Governments and in most cases have brewed over
many years of various different flavours of Government - even
Conservative ones. That's the reality.
I lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moderate
ground. The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms,
and they're getting worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent
views, possible to hold moderate political views and still be
pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and yes, even patriotic.
By the way, I called some commentary here "drivel". By that I mean just
a generic term for partisan political rants. That wasn't intended to be
a personal insult to the particular individual/s who may indeed be very
nice people to meet over a beer, and I apologise if they took it that
way. But certain individuals seem to have turned that around on me and
made it personal. You know who you are.
We here and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and
nothing will change that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa.
Don't have a dummy-spit if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life
whichever side wins and have your say again next time around. That
applies to BOTH sides. That's the end of my rant (but at least it's not
politically partisan). I figure if everyone else wants to have one, I'm
probably entitled to one too. Democracy, right? ;)
--------
Mike
Your political opinions are noted. And ignored.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | CJ-6 Engine Trouble |
No.
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Hou
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 18:24
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
But, if Tom could freely turn his engine 15 or more blades before start, wouldn't
that clear most oil in both cylinders and intake pipes? I mean, any oil in
intake pipes would be sucked into cylinders then dumped into exhaust pipes, no?
________________________________
From: "n4829t@aol.com" <n4829t@aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
You can pull the plugs from lower cylinders 5 and 6 and drain all the oil, but
still have quite a bit more in the intakes.... So, the cylinder appears clear
until you start and the oil in the intake dumps into the cylinder causing hydraulic
lock and destroying your motor. It's best to drain BOTH the cylinders and
the lower intakes... When in doubt, take em out!
Jim P.
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:47 AM, Didier BLOUZARD <didier.blouzard@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeahhh
But question is how could that happen?
The guy pulled a good number of blades even if there ain't a good number. But
he did like the book say and ..... Bad news. How can we avoid this?
Didier Blouzard
+33 6 5184 4802
Le 3 nov. 2012 11:31, James Goolsby < <mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com> cjpilot710@aol.com> a crit :
I am afraid Richard is right. You may have had a hydraulic lock, which bent
a rod, thus that piston skirt has drop below the cylinder bottom, just far enough
that its scraper ring has sprung out and is stopping the piston from moving
back up the cylinder. Very bad news I hate to say.
Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:25 AM, "Richard Goode" < <mailto:richard.goode@russianaeros.com> richard.goode@russianaeros.com> wrote:
I'm sorry to say, but your engine has definitely suffered hydraulic lock!
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
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From: <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [ <mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com> mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas McKeon
Sent: 03 November 2012 03:36
To: <mailto:yak-list@matronics.com> yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6 Engine Trouble
Hello,
I wrote previously about engine trouble I had been having on my CJ-6. I believed
it was the Carburetor diaphram. I ended up changing the whole carburetor
with a new one. I finished changing the carb and was going to do a run-up on the
plane. It had been sitting for about 3 weeks so I turned the prop through about
15-17 times. I turned it a little extra because it had sat for so long. As
I turned the prop oil came out of the exhausts which was normal. Once the oil
stoped and I felt I had turned the prop enough times I went to stat the engine.
The engine started to turn over and the prop went around about 4 times and
then just stopped. Then some oil came out of the left exhaust. I assumed it stopped
because I was out of gas (There were a few gallons of 100LL previously
used during run-ups). I had very little gas left in the plane and I wasn't feeling
a lot of pressure on the primer. So I had the plane filled with gas. After
topping off with 100LL I went to turn the prop again and it wouldn't budge.
It was stuck solid. I turned the prop in reverse about a turn and a half. Then
back in the normal direction, after a turn and a half it stopped in the same
spot. It felt much more stiff turning it than usual, and turning it forward it
does not move an inch once it hits the spot where it stopped. I pulled the bottom
4 spark plugs and nothing came out. I tried to pull it through again and
it still wouldn't budge.
Any ideas? I feel like I hydraulic locked it, but I know there wasn't any oil
in there to do so.
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
Nugh" said
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
Good luck telling other people what you feel they should (or should not)
post on this list.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
Either leave, or don't leave.
Mark Bitterlich
p.s. And if you feel like I was patronizing you, well then..... "Take
care, good luck and fond farewell"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mmayfield
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 15:29
Subject: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
>
> Roger that! Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> --
Please don't patronise me, Mark. I was responding to multiple political
rants which suddenly invoked all sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil
hat wearing" paranoia. If you want to be a part of that, by all means go
ahead, it is your democratic right and I support that right, even if the
result is just nuts.
I am NOT a socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16
years as a military officer and have the active service medals to prove
it. So what? This means very little, other than to demonstrate to you
that your preconceived views may not be justified, and the dripping
sarcasm of the "fond farewell" towards me might have been premature.
But the economic problems around the world (anyone reading this list
would think it's only the USA) which are causing most of the current
turmoil are multi-faceted and extremely complex. Indeed, some of the
root causes themselves go back to excessively deregulated banking
systems and inherent human greed. From reading the comments here, many
of you guys should be real happy about that. Deregulation and freedom to
do what you want, when you want. Isn't that exactly what you're after?
It was George W Bush who had to initiate a Government bailout of the
system, which then had to be continued by Obama. I'm not making a
personal judgement on either. I'm just saying that both of them had to
do what they had to do.
Anyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some individual
cases quite extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyone. I
am an Australian (and Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himself,
NOT for all Aussies) and patriotic about my country. I have many great
friends and direct family relatives in the USA too, have visited many
times and enjoyed my time there. I hope that not only the USA, but the
entire world will emerge from these tough economic times and I am sure
they will. But these economic problems, in reality, are not unique to
so-called "socialist" Governments and in most cases have brewed over
many years of various different flavours of Government - even
Conservative ones. That's the reality.
I lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moderate
ground. The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms,
and they're getting worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent
views, possible to hold moderate political views and still be
pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and yes, even patriotic.
By the way, I called some commentary here "drivel". By that I mean just
a generic term for partisan political rants. That wasn't intended to be
a personal insult to the particular individual/s who may indeed be very
nice people to meet over a beer, and I apologise if they took it that
way. But certain individuals seem to have turned that around on me and
made it personal. You know who you are.
We here and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and
nothing will change that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa.
Don't have a dummy-spit if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life
whichever side wins and have your say again next time around. That
applies to BOTH sides. That's the end of my rant (but at least it's not
politically partisan). I figure if everyone else wants to have one, I'm
probably entitled to one too. Democracy, right? ;)
--------
Mike
Your political opinions are noted. And ignored.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386682#386682
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| Subject: | Re: My final word on how I feel. |
Greetings from the socialist republic of Vermont.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of andres
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
Nugh" said
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Sender: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
--> <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
Good luck telling other people what you feel they should (or should not)
post on this list.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
Either leave, or don't leave.
Mark Bitterlich
p.s. And if you feel like I was patronizing you, well then..... "Take
care, good luck and fond farewell"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mmayfield
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 15:29
Subject: Yak-List: Re: My final word on how I feel.
mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m wrote:
>
> Roger that! Take care, good luck, and fond farewell.
>
> Mark Bitterlich
>
>
> --
Please don't patronise me, Mark. I was responding to multiple political rants which
suddenly invoked all sorts of "socialist communist tin-foil hat wearing"
paranoia. If you want to be a part of that, by all means go ahead, it is your
democratic right and I support that right, even if the result is just nuts.
I am NOT a socialist (for what it's worth). I served my country for 16 years as
a military officer and have the active service medals to prove it. So what? This
means very little, other than to demonstrate to you that your preconceived
views may not be justified, and the dripping sarcasm of the "fond farewell" towards
me might have been premature.
But the economic problems around the world (anyone reading this list would think
it's only the USA) which are causing most of the current turmoil are multi-faceted
and extremely complex. Indeed, some of the root causes themselves go back
to excessively deregulated banking systems and inherent human greed. From reading
the comments here, many of you guys should be real happy about that. Deregulation
and freedom to do what you want, when you want. Isn't that exactly
what you're after?
It was George W Bush who had to initiate a Government bailout of the system, which
then had to be continued by Obama. I'm not making a personal judgement on
either. I'm just saying that both of them had to do what they had to do.
Anyway, the simplistic politically partisan (and in some individual cases quite
extreme) opinions expressed here are NOT helping anyone. I am an Australian (and
Chris, with due respect, is speaking for himself, NOT for all Aussies) and
patriotic about my country. I have many great friends and direct family relatives
in the USA too, have visited many times and enjoyed my time there. I hope
that not only the USA, but the entire world will emerge from these tough economic
times and I am sure they will. But these economic problems, in reality, are
not unique to so-called "socialist" Governments and in most cases have brewed
over many years of various different flavours of Government - even Conservative
ones. That's the reality.
I lament the fact that politics are diverging away from common, moderate ground.
The "looney left" and the "rabid right" are both valid terms, and they're getting
worse, not better. It IS, contrary to some apparent views, possible to hold
moderate political views and still be pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and yes,
even patriotic.
By the way, I called some commentary here "drivel". By that I mean just a generic
term for partisan political rants. That wasn't intended to be a personal insult
to the particular individual/s who may indeed be very nice people to meet
over a beer, and I apologise if they took it that way. But certain individuals
seem to have turned that around on me and made it personal. You know who you
are.
We here and in the USA live in a Democracy where you can vote and nothing will
change that. For that, be thankful, or go live in Africa.
Don't have a dummy-spit if it doesn't go your way. Get on with your life whichever
side wins and have your say again next time around. That applies to BOTH sides.
That's the end of my rant (but at least it's not politically partisan).
I figure if everyone else wants to have one, I'm probably entitled to one too.
Democracy, right? ;)
--------
Mike
Your political opinions are noted. And ignored.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386682#386682
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