---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/07/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:32 AM - Re: directional giro's in a CJ (Gill Gutierrez) 2. 11:35 AM - Re: directional giro's in a CJ (A. Dennis Savarese) 3. 12:32 PM - Re: Hanger lease (Jay Land) 4. 12:45 PM - Re: directional giro's in a CJ (Walter Lannon) 5. 12:46 PM - Re: Hanger lease (netmaster15@juno.com) 6. 01:25 PM - Re: Hanger lease (netmaster15@juno.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:08 AM PST US From: "Gill Gutierrez" Subject: RE: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ Nigel, I have never seen a Yak unit but if it has vacuum tubes with all the shaking going on I would check to make sure pins were seated tight. Gill From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nigel Willson Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:30 AM Subject: RE: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ Doug/Gill, Have a similar issue with a Yak52 Directional Gyro (both cockpits). Any advice for this variant? Thanks Nigel From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp Sent: 07 November 2012 00:22 Subject: Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ Gill is correct, but clean the pins and contacts also. Doug On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Gill Gutierrez wrote: I solved the problem by making sure the vacuum tube pins were tight in the sockets. Gill From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of peter waddington Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ Looking for input/advice from the group. Having problems on the directional giro's in a CJ both front and back cockpits. They are both slow to indicate direction and sync does not help. Both were working well until recently, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.. Pete www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List http://forums.matronics.com _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ On the Yak 52, the PT200 Inverter in the rear just behind the Russian VHF radio location (left side looking after behind the rear seat) powers the DG or slave compass system. It also provides inverter power to the attitude gyro in the rear cockpit and the VSI/Turn and bank. Do you know if your rear cockpit attitude gyro is functioning properly? If it is flaky, exchange it with the front cockpit gyro and see if the problem stays with the rear cockpit. If it does stay with the rear cockpit, I would suspect an inverter problem. It is possible the inverter, which outputs 36 volts AC, 400 HZ is not outputting correctly. The other item that controls the slave compass/DG is the large unit behind the front seat. No vacuum tubes. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 11/7/2012 12:29 PM, Gill Gutierrez wrote: > > Nigel, > > I have never seen a Yak unit but if it has vacuum tubes with all the > shaking going on I would check to make sure pins were seated tight. > > Gill > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Nigel Willson > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:30 AM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ > > Doug/Gill, > > Have a similar issue with a Yak52 Directional Gyro (both cockpits). > Any advice for this variant? > > Thanks > > Nigel > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *doug sapp > *Sent:* 07 November 2012 00:22 > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ > > Gill is correct, but clean the pins and contacts also. > > Doug > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Gill Gutierrez > wrote: > > I solved the problem by making sure the vacuum tube pins were tight in > the sockets. > > Gill > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of *peter > waddington > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Yak-List: directional giros in a CJ > > Looking for input/advice from the group. Having problems on the > directional giros in a CJ both front and back cockpits. They are both > slow to indicate direction and sync does not help. Both were working > well until recently, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.. > > > Pete > > * * > * * > *www.aeroelectric.com * > *www.buildersbooks.com * > *www.homebuilthelp.com * > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > *http://forums.matronics.com* > * * > * * > * * > *_blank">www.aeroelectric.com * > *.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com * > *="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com * > *_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > *et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > *tp://forums.matronics.com* > * * > > * * > * * > * * > > Click on > > *< find out more about* > *www.aeroelectric.com * > s Bookstorewww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.com > *http://www.matronics.com/contributi Thank you for your generous support!* > > > rowse, Chat, FAQ, > > * * > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *www.aeroelectric.com* > *www.buildersbooks.com* > *www.homebuilthelp.com* > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger lease From: Jay Land Their aircraft insurance co will sue you- you need =B3hangars keepers=B2 liability insurance On 11/6/12 2:13 PM, "Steven Johnson" wrote: > I own the hanger I keep my Yak in. I also rent space for 2 other people t o > keep their planes there. Does anyone have a lease template that could be used > to limit my liability should something happen to the hanger and their pla nes > are damaged or destroyed? > > Steven Johnson > Yak 52 N9900x > 0B5 Turners Falls, MA > 413 522-1130 > > > > om> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:06 PM PST US From: "Walter Lannon" Subject: Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ It sounds like the same basic gyro compass system as the CJ. The CJ though has another unit. This is the FL3 Amplifier, A smaller shock mounted box behind the front seat. This has one (maybe two -memory not working) vacuum tubes. The 52 being a later version may be solid state? Cheers; Walt -----Original Message----- From: A. Dennis Savarese Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ On the Yak 52, the PT200 Inverter in the rear just behind the Russian VHF radio location (left side looking after behind the rear seat) powers the DG or slave compass system. It also provides inverter power to the attitude gyro in the rear cockpit and the VSI/Turn and bank. Do you know if your rear cockpit attitude gyro is functioning properly? If it is flaky, exchange it with the front cockpit gyro and see if the problem stays with the rear cockpit. If it does stay with the rear cockpit, I would suspect an inverter problem. It is possible the inverter, which outputs 36 volts AC, 400 HZ is not outputting correctly. The other item that controls the slave compass/DG is the large unit behind the front seat. No vacuum tubes. Dennis A. Dennis Savarese 334-285-6263 334-546-8182 (mobile) www.yak-52.com Skype - Yakguy1 On 11/7/2012 12:29 PM, Gill Gutierrez wrote: > > Nigel, > > I have never seen a Yak unit but if it has vacuum tubes with all the > shaking going on I would check to make sure pins were seated tight. > > Gill > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Nigel Willson > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 12:30 AM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ > > Doug/Gill, > > Have a similar issue with a Yak52 Directional Gyro (both cockpits). Any > advice for this variant? > > Thanks > > Nigel > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *doug sapp > *Sent:* 07 November 2012 00:22 > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: directional giro's in a CJ > > Gill is correct, but clean the pins and contacts also. > > Doug > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Gill Gutierrez > wrote: > > I solved the problem by making sure the vacuum tube pins were tight in the > sockets. > > Gill > > *From:*owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of *peter > waddington > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 PM > *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Yak-List: directional giros in a CJ > > Looking for input/advice from the group. Having problems on the > directional giros in a CJ both front and back cockpits. They are both > slow to indicate direction and sync does not help. Both were working well > until recently, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.. > > > Pete > > * * > * * > *www.aeroelectric.com * > *www.buildersbooks.com * > *www.homebuilthelp.com * > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > *http://forums.matronics.com* > * * > * * > * * > *_blank">www.aeroelectric.com * > *.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > * > *="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com * > *_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > *et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > *tp://forums.matronics.com* > * * > > * * > * * > * * > > on > > *< find out more about* > *www.aeroelectric.com * > s Bookstorewww.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com > > *http://www.matronics.com/contributi Thank you for your generous > support!* > > > rowse, Chat, FAQ, > * * > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *www.aeroelectric.com* > *www.buildersbooks.com* > *www.homebuilthelp.com* > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:38 PM PST US From: "netmaster15@juno.com" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger lease riginal Message ---------- From: Jay Land Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger lease Their aircraft insurance co will sue you- you need “hangars keeper s” liability insurance On 11/6/12 2:13 PM, "Steven Johnson" wrote: I own the hanger I keep my Yak in. I also rent space for 2 other people to keep their planes there. Does anyone have a lease template that could be used to limit my liability should something happen to the hanger and their planes are damaged or destroyed? Steven Johnson Yak 52 N9900x 0B5 Turners Falls, MA 413 522-1130 onth -- me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) ="http://www.aeroelectric.com">http://www.aeroelectric.com> ef="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">http://www.homebuilthelp.com> ://www.matronics.com/contribution ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ail Forum - ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - matronics.com ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== =================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:04 PM PST US From: "netmaster15@juno.com" Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger lease Just type up an agreement wherein your renter agrees to hold you harmles s from any suit ocurringas a result of damage to his aircraft in connect ion with his use or occupancy of your hangar (desribe the location and c ondition of your building). state in the agreement that the renter is in demnifying you from all claims and damages of any nature whatsoever. As a little more "boiler plate" have him have his signature notarized. If you want to go further have him agree to insure you from damages ocurrin g to your aircraft and real property as a result of his use and occupanc y of the subject property. Now ' what about damage that he causes to ano ther aircraft belonging to a third party owner who is also using your ha ngar with your permission; or perhaps he sets the hangar on fire and des troys everyone's aircraft . Gets a little sticky, doesn't it? Don't try to do this on the cheap; Hire a lawyer and cover all the bases I've me ntioned above; you'll save yourself a lifetime of worry and regret. Good luck. Cliff ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Jay Land Subject: Re: Yak-List: Hanger lease Their aircraft insurance co will sue you- you need “hangars keeper s” liability insurance On 11/6/12 2:13 PM, "Steven Johnson" wrote: I own the hanger I keep my Yak in. I also rent space for 2 other people to keep their planes there. Does anyone have a lease template that could be used to limit my liability should something happen to the hanger and their planes are damaged or destroyed Steven Johnson Yak 52 N9900x 0B5 Turners Falls, MA 413 522-1130 onth -- me AWESOME FREE Gifts!) ="http://www.aeroelectric.com">http://www.aeroelectric.com> ef="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">http://www.homebuilthelp.com> ://www.matronics.com/contribution ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ail Forum - ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - matronics.com ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== =================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.