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1. 04:33 AM - Re: Merry Season (ChangDriver)
2. 06:41 AM - Merry Season (richard goode)
3. 10:00 AM - Yak-18T Heat Muff and Control Box (Patrick Ashura)
4. 10:07 AM - Re: Yak-18T Heat Muff and Control Box (Didier BLOUZARD)
5. 11:37 AM - Yak-50 Transaction (Robin Hou)
6. 12:32 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Jan Mevis)
7. 12:40 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Jan Mevis)
8. 01:29 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Jj)
9. 01:50 PM - Re: Merry Season (Jan Mevis)
10. 01:57 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Bill Geipel)
11. 06:57 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Roger Kemp M.D.)
12. 08:47 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Bill Geipel)
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Season |
Extreme views on either side do no good. Postings that imply that a certain religious
practice (Islam) is cause for alarm is ridiculous as is believing that
the Muslim Brotherhood called for the demise of antiquities in Egypt. Many were
killed in the name of Christianity during the Crusades and many of those killed
were in the Middle East. Maybe we don't care about history.
I find this kind of viral closed-minded thinking to be abhorrent.
Can we go back to discussing planes please.
BTW, here is a link discussing the hoax about tearing down pyramids, etc.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/world/middleeast/in-egypt-rumor-of-pyramids-demise-proves-flimsy.html?_r=0
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391070#391070
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I'm sorry, but the connection between Muslim, or for that matter, any other
form of extremism and the ability to fly aircraft is simply too tenuous to
be worthy of even the most fleeting consideration.
I, and I'm sure the vast majority of people who subscribe to this list, do
so to exchange information about these aircraft and not about anything else.
Please can we restrict this list to its intended aims!!
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
I'm currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is
+94 779 132 160.
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| Subject: | Yak-18T Heat Muff and Control Box |
Group,
I am in need of the Heat Muff exhaust section (it is on the PILOT side of the exhaust
ring) and associated control box for the Yak-18T. Thanks for any help,
PJ
303-648-3088
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-18T Heat Muff and Control Box |
Ask Termikas or Aerostar.
Didier Blouzard
+33(0)6 5184 4802
Le 28 dc. 2012 18:57, Patrick Ashura <pjsales@me.com> a crit :
>
>
> Group,
>
> I am in need of the Heat Muff exhaust section (it is on the PILOT side of the
exhaust ring) and associated control box for the Yak-18T. Thanks for any help,
>
> PJ
>
> 303-648-3088
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Yak-50 Transaction |
I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat plane like
Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for the flying/handling
part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume doing take
off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Yak-50 which is
a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a Yak-52TW?
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraft
definitely helps.
The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for
instance.
Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
Jan
From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat plane
like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for the
flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume
doing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a
Yak-50 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a
Yak-52TW?
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps.
That's how I learned it.
Jan
From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraft
definitely helps.
The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for
instance.
Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
Jan
From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat plane
like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for the
flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume
doing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a
Yak-50 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a
Yak-52TW?
ic.com
w.buildersbooks.com
thelp.com
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ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
Three things:
1). Training and experience in a YAK 52 is important so you are thoroughly k
nowledgable in the single hand brake/rudder bar experience. This is 'unique
' in a trike, critical in a tail wheel aircraft. Make sure you are comforta
ble in it.
2). The YAK 50 is BLIND on takeoff and landing!!! Until you get the tail up
or when you put it down, you are BLIND forward vision. For practice have a
WIDE and long runway. I have since operated off a 15 foot wide runway but d
idn't enjoy it.
3). The Yak 50 has LOTS of power for its weight. You DO NOT have enough rud
der initially for a full power application. Lock the tail wheel and add pow
er slowly until you get the tail up. The good need is you'll be off the gro
und less than 400 feet!
The Yak 50 is an easy tail wheel aircraft to takeoff and land, once you mast
er the above. A truly a delight in the air, much, much better than a -52 an
d 'Chang. Plus you don't have to listen to anybody breathing in the interco
m ;-)
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
> Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps.
> That's how I learned it.
>
> Jan
>
> From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 21:30
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>
> You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraft d
efinitely helps.
> The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for inst
ance.
>
> Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
>
> Jan
>
> From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 20:35
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>
> I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat pla
ne like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for the f
lying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume do
ing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Yak-5
0 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a Yak-52T
W?
>
>
> ic.com
> w.buildersbooks.com
> thelp.com
> ronics.com/contribution
> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> com
>
>
>
> ic.com
> w.buildersbooks.com
> thelp.com
> ronics.com/contribution
> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Merry Season |
There are not many female muslim pilots, as far as I know? There's the case
of Capt. Hanadi Zakarya Hindi in Saudi Arabia (the only one, I think).
She had the help of a very important prince. But the ayatollas say that she
should have a male guardian all the time.
Curious how that will end.
And to finish (the vast majority will be pleased): I still do not like to b
e
considered "supposedly intelligent". That's an insult.
Jan
From: Richard Goode <richard.goode@russianaeros.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Merry Season
I=B9m sorry, but the connection between Muslim, or for that matter, any other
form of extremism and the ability to fly aircraft is simply too tenuous to
be worthy of even the most fleeting consideration.
I, and I=B9m sure the vast majority of people who subscribe to this list, do
so to exchange information about these aircraft and not about anything else
.
Please can we restrict this list to its intended aims!!
Richard Goode
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Hereford
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
Tel: +94 (0) 81 241 5137 (Sri Lanka)
Tel: +44 (0) 1544 340120
Fax: +44 (0) 1544 340129
www.russianaeros.com
I=B9m currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is
+94 779 132 160.
<http://www.buildersbooks.com>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
Oh poop!
Bill
On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Jj <Jetj01@aol.com> wrote:
> Three things:
>
> 1). Training and experience in a YAK 52 is important so you are thoroughly
knowledgable in the single hand brake/rudder bar experience. This is 'uniq
ue' in a trike, critical in a tail wheel aircraft. Make sure you are comfor
table in it.
>
> 2). The YAK 50 is BLIND on takeoff and landing!!! Until you get the tail u
p or when you put it down, you are BLIND forward vision. For practice have a
WIDE and long runway. I have since operated off a 15 foot wide runway but d
idn't enjoy it.
>
> 3). The Yak 50 has LOTS of power for its weight. You DO NOT have enough r
udder initially for a full power application. Lock the tail wheel and add p
ower slowly until you get the tail up. The good need is you'll be off the g
round less than 400 feet!
>
> The Yak 50 is an easy tail wheel aircraft to takeoff and land, once you ma
ster the above. A truly a delight in the air, much, much better than a -52 a
nd 'Chang. Plus you don't have to listen to anybody breathing in the interc
om ;-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
>
>> Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps.
>> That's how I learned it.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 21:30
>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>
>> You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraft d
efinitely helps.
>> The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for ins
tance.
>>
>> Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 20:35
>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>
>> I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat pl
ane like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for the
flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume d
oing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Yak-
50 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a Yak-52
TW?
>>
>>
>> ic.com
>> w.buildersbooks.com
>> thelp.com
>> ronics.com/contribution
>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> com
>>
>>
>>
>> ic.com
>> w.buildersbooks.com
>> thelp.com
>> ronics.com/contribution
>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> com
>>
>>
>>
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>> ctric.com
>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>> uilthelp.com
>> matronics.com/contribution
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>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> =========================
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>> cs.com
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
Not sure what is meant by Bill's comment?
Been flying the 50 for roughly 5 years. It is almost as much fun as the Vipe
r.. I said almost.
Blind TO till the tail is up is true. Three points look exactly the same as w
hen you are sitting on the numbers for TO. Remember that site picture as you
sit with your but 2 feet off the ground. Your whole visual field is what yo
u see out of your angle window as you sit there at 13.5 deg. Alpha. You are g
oing fly your base turn and final at that alpha to slow her down to full sta
ll with your butt 2 feet off the ground in the three point landing. AS- Perc
h 150 kilometers/hr, Final 130KPH, hold her off over the numbers at about 2 1
/2 feet off the deck until she stalls at 103 KPH.
Will give more info later. Wife pissed...our wedding anniversary and I'm tal
king about flying the YAK 50...Hmmmm... after 38 years...priorities!
Love the girl though... Named my 52 after her.
P.S.
Backseat landings in the 52 helps but your butt is 9 feet off the ground whe
n all is said and done so you will be looking for that site picture sub cons
ciously the first time or so.
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
> Oh poop!
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Jj <Jetj01@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Three things:
>>
>> 1). Training and experience in a YAK 52 is important so you are thoroughl
y knowledgable in the single hand brake/rudder bar experience. This is 'uni
que' in a trike, critical in a tail wheel aircraft. Make sure you are comfo
rtable in it.
>>
>> 2). The YAK 50 is BLIND on takeoff and landing!!! Until you get the tail
up or when you put it down, you are BLIND forward vision. For practice hav
e a WIDE and long runway. I have since operated off a 15 foot wide runway b
ut didn't enjoy it.
>>
>> 3). The Yak 50 has LOTS of power for its weight. You DO NOT have enough r
udder initially for a full power application. Lock the tail wheel and add p
ower slowly until you get the tail up. The good need is you'll be off the g
round less than 400 feet!
>>
>> The Yak 50 is an easy tail wheel aircraft to takeoff and land, once you m
aster the above. A truly a delight in the air, much, much better than a -52
and 'Chang. Plus you don't have to listen to anybody breathing in the inte
rcom ;-)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
>>
>>> Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps.
>>> That's how I learned it.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 21:30
>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>>
>>> You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraft
definitely helps.
>>> The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for in
stance.
>>>
>>> Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 20:35
>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>>
>>> I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat p
lane like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for th
e flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume
doing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Ya
k-50 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a Yak-
52TW?
>>>
>>>
>>> ic.com
>>> w.buildersbooks.com
>>> thelp.com
>>> ronics.com/contribution
>>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ic.com
>>> w.buildersbooks.com
>>> thelp.com
>>> ronics.com/contribution
>>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========================
>>> ctric.com
>>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>>> uilthelp.com
>>> matronics.com/contribution
>>> ========================
>>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> ========================
>>> cs.com
>>> ========================
>>>
>>
>>
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>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>> uilthelp.com
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> =========================
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>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> =========================
=========
>> cs.com
>> =========================
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-50 Transaction |
It was for Jj. (LoL)
Bill
On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:54 PM, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wro
te:
> Not sure what is meant by Bill's comment?
> Been flying the 50 for roughly 5 years. It is almost as much fun as the Vi
per.. I said almost.
> Blind TO till the tail is up is true. Three points look exactly the same a
s when you are sitting on the numbers for TO. Remember that site picture as y
ou sit with your but 2 feet off the ground. Your whole visual field is what y
ou see out of your angle window as you sit there at 13.5 deg. Alpha. You are
going fly your base turn and final at that alpha to slow her down to full s
tall with your butt 2 feet off the ground in the three point landing. AS- Pe
rch 150 kilometers/hr, Final 130KPH, hold her off over the numbers at about 2
1/2 feet off the deck until she stalls at 103 KPH.
> Will give more info later. Wife pissed...our wedding anniversary and I'm t
alking about flying the YAK 50...Hmmmm... after 38 years...priorities!
> Love the girl though... Named my 52 after her.
> P.S.
> Backseat landings in the 52 helps but your butt is 9 feet off the ground w
hen all is said and done so you will be looking for that site picture sub co
nsciously the first time or so.
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Bill Geipel <czech6@mesanetworks.net> wrote:
>
>> Oh poop!
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Jj <Jetj01@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Three things:
>>>
>>> 1). Training and experience in a YAK 52 is important so you are thorough
ly knowledgable in the single hand brake/rudder bar experience. This is 'un
ique' in a trike, critical in a tail wheel aircraft. Make sure you are comf
ortable in it.
>>>
>>> 2). The YAK 50 is BLIND on takeoff and landing!!! Until you get the tai
l up or when you put it down, you are BLIND forward vision. For practice ha
ve a WIDE and long runway. I have since operated off a 15 foot wide runway b
ut didn't enjoy it.
>>>
>>> 3). The Yak 50 has LOTS of power for its weight. You DO NOT have enough
rudder initially for a full power application. Lock the tail wheel and add
power slowly until you get the tail up. The good need is you'll be off the
ground less than 400 feet!
>>>
>>> The Yak 50 is an easy tail wheel aircraft to takeoff and land, once you m
aster the above. A truly a delight in the air, much, much better than a -52
and 'Chang. Plus you don't have to listen to anybody breathing in the inte
rcom ;-)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps.
>>>> That's how I learned it.
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> From: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be>
>>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 21:30
>>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>>>
>>>> You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircraf
t definitely helps.
>>>> The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for i
nstance.
>>>>
>>>> Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor).
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> From: Robin Hou <rmhou@yahoo.com>
>>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 20:35
>>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat p
lane like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for th
e flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assume
doing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Ya
k-50 which is a tail-dragger. Is there a place to receive training in a Yak-
52TW?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ic.com
>>>> w.buildersbooks.com
>>>> thelp.com
>>>> ronics.com/contribution
>>>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ic.com
>>>> w.buildersbooks.com
>>>> thelp.com
>>>> ronics.com/contribution
>>>> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========================
>>>> ctric.com
>>>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>>>> uilthelp.com
>>>> matronics.com/contribution
>>>> ========================
>>>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> ========================
>>>> cs.com
>>>> ========================
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========================
>>> ctric.com
>>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>>> uilthelp.com
>>> matronics.com/contribution
>>> ========================
>>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> ========================
>>> cs.com
>>> ========================
>>>
>>
>>
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>> ctric.com
>> >www.buildersbooks.com
>> uilthelp.com
>> matronics.com/contribution
>> =========================
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>> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> =========================
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>> cs.com
>> =========================
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