---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/29/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:46 AM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (ChangDriver) 2. 06:16 AM - New Item (Cpayne) 3. 08:01 AM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Dale) 4. 09:08 AM - Re: New Item (A. Dennis Savarese) 5. 03:38 PM - Re: Yak-50 Transaction (Roger Kemp M.D.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:57 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Transaction From: "ChangDriver" Find a good tailwheel instructor in a J-3. You can't see anything from the back of a J-3 (where you solo it from). Forget a Citabira or Decathlon unless they put you in the back so all you see is their head in front of you. This will give you the blind forward sight picture and let you learn how to track down the runway looking sideways (like on an element takeoff). The difference is that these plane have full rudder authority on initial t/o roll and from what I read, the 50 does not. Get some time in a 52 or CJ to learn the differential braking. Per the FAA you will need a tw endorsement anyway unless you are grandfathered in with tw PIC time prior to April 15, 1991. FAR 61.31 (i) Additional training required for operating tailwheel airplanes. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (i)(2) of this section, no person may act as pilot in command of a tailwheel airplane unless that person has received and logged flight training from an authorized instructor in a tailwheel airplane and received an endorsement in the person's logbook from an authorized instructor who found the person proficient in the operation of a tailwheel airplane. The flight training must include at least the following maneuvers and procedures: (i) Normal and crosswind takeoffs and landings; (ii) Wheel landings (unless the manufacturer has recommended against such landings); and (iii) Go-around procedures. (2) The training and endorsement required by paragraph (i)(1) of this section is not required if the person logged pilot-in-command time in a tailwheel airplane before April 15, 1991. Hope this helps. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391133#391133 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:58 AM PST US From: Cpayne Subject: Yak-List: New Item Well it will be a new year and with it I'm starting a new company: Payne Aviation LLC. Specializing in Yak/CJ accessories, custom parts and A&P services. Attached is a pic of a Nose Case window for the M-14P gearcase. Built from thick CNC cut polycarbonate, this kit makes it easy to position the prop with the master rod at TDC on #1 cylinder. Doing this greatly cuts down on oil drain down through the lower cylinders and stacks. Consistent use means that an oil tank shutoff is not required. No tank shutoff eliminates the complexity and risk of failures due to such a mod. Another benefit is being able to mark the crankcase position for #4 TDC and firing point... much more exactly and consistently than other methods. Valuable for checking magneto timing during annuals. New web site also: http://home.joimail.com/~cpayne1/ Craig Payne ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:44 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-50 Transaction From: "Dale" My agreement is with Jj. 52 time is a must. For most people getting the 52 to the runway is the hardest part of flying one, let alone parking it where you want it. I flew the Super Decathlon first and learned to keep it straight. I practiced adding power slow in the 52 to counter the prop and found it along with the TW roll straight for quite a while if you don't get in a big hurry. Get in a hurry and add lots of power and you will be greeted with a wild ride if you don't know how to use the air brakes and your use to adding right rudder. If you fly the back seat of a 52 with a 6'4" pilot in the front like me your pretty much IFR in the back seat anyway. I fly from the back seat of a 52 and feel the landing view is the same as a TW in a three point all the way to touchdown on final. Being farther back behind the wing gives you a better feel of crab or slip in the longitudinal axis of the plane and makes it easier to keep it straight on final until touchdown when the world disappears . The TW also has toe brakes and has nothing in common with the 52/50 in that respect. Now if you could find someone to give you time in a TD back seat your all set. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391143#391143 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:14 AM PST US From: "A. Dennis Savarese" Subject: Re: Yak-List: New Item Great ideas Craig. However you should mention the polycarbonate cover can only be installed on M14's with the side cover plate on the nose case typically found on Series 2 engines. Dennis Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Cpayne wrote: > Well it will be a new year and with it I'm starting a new company: Payne Aviation LLC. Specializing in Yak/CJ accessories, custom parts and A&P services. > > Attached is a pic of a Nose Case window for the M-14P gearcase. Built from thick CNC cut polycarbonate, this kit makes it easy to position the prop with the master rod at TDC on #1 cylinder. Doing this greatly cuts down on oil drain down through the lower cylinders and stacks. Consistent use means that an oil tank shutoff is not required. No tank shutoff eliminates the complexity and risk of failures due to such a mod. > > Another benefit is being able to mark the crankcase position for #4 TDC and firing point... much more exactly and consistently than other methods. Valuable for checking magneto timing during annuals. > > New web site also: http://home.joimail.com/~cpayne1/ > > Craig Payne > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Copy, Bill. Doc Sent from my iPad On Dec 28, 2012, at 10:43 PM, Bill Geipel wrote: > It was for Jj. (LoL) > > Bill > > > > On Dec 28, 2012, at 8:54 PM, "Roger Kemp M.D." w rote: > >> Not sure what is meant by Bill's comment? >> Been flying the 50 for roughly 5 years. It is almost as much fun as the V iper.. I said almost. >> Blind TO till the tail is up is true. Three points look exactly the same a s when you are sitting on the numbers for TO. Remember that site picture as y ou sit with your but 2 feet off the ground. Your whole visual field is what y ou see out of your angle window as you sit there at 13.5 deg. Alpha. You are going fly your base turn and final at that alpha to slow her down to full s tall with your butt 2 feet off the ground in the three point landing. AS- Pe rch 150 kilometers/hr, Final 130KPH, hold her off over the numbers at about 2 1/2 feet off the deck until she stalls at 103 KPH. >> Will give more info later. Wife pissed...our wedding anniversary and I'm t alking about flying the YAK 50...Hmmmm... after 38 years...priorities! >> Love the girl though... Named my 52 after her. >> P.S. >> Backseat landings in the 52 helps but your butt is 9 feet off the ground w hen all is said and done so you will be looking for that site picture sub co nsciously the first time or so. >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Bill Geipel wrote: >> >>> Oh poop! >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Jj wrote: >>> >>>> Three things: >>>> >>>> 1). Training and experience in a YAK 52 is important so you are thoroug hly knowledgable in the single hand brake/rudder bar experience. This is 'u nique' in a trike, critical in a tail wheel aircraft. Make sure you are com fortable in it. >>>> >>>> 2). The YAK 50 is BLIND on takeoff and landing!!! Until you get the ta il up or when you put it down, you are BLIND forward vision. For practice h ave a WIDE and long runway. I have since operated off a 15 foot wide runway but didn't enjoy it. >>>> >>>> 3). The Yak 50 has LOTS of power for its weight. You DO NOT have enoug h rudder initially for a full power application. Lock the tail wheel and ad d power slowly until you get the tail up. The good need is you'll be off th e ground less than 400 feet! >>>> >>>> The Yak 50 is an easy tail wheel aircraft to takeoff and land, once you master the above. A truly a delight in the air, much, much better than a - 52 and 'Chang. Plus you don't have to listen to anybody breathing in the in tercom ;-) >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Jan Mevis wrote: >>>> >>>>> Flying and landing the Yak 52 from the backseat also helps. >>>>> That's how I learned it. >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> From: Jan Mevis >>>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 21:30 >>>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" >>>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction >>>>> >>>>> You have to qualify yourself! Taildragger experience on another aircra ft definitely helps. >>>>> The Yak 50 is not a nasty beast for landing, compared to a Pitts, for i nstance. >>>>> >>>>> Only my 2 cents (and I'm not an instructor). >>>>> >>>>> Jan >>>>> >>>>> From: Robin Hou >>>>> Date: Friday 28 December 2012 20:35 >>>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" >>>>> Subject: Yak-List: Yak-50 Transaction >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering how does one get transaction training for a single seat plane like Yak-50? It seems that training in a Yak-52 would be logical for t he flying/handling part, but how about the take off/landing portion? I assum e doing take off/landing in a Yak-52 does not help with take off/landing a Y ak-50 which is a tail-dragger. 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