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| Subject: | Re: Engine is making aluminum |
I remember reading about an oil ring that was replaced incorrectly quite a
few years ago that put enough metal through the engine to light the chip de
tector.=C2-I don't recall if a vibration was detected, I think the fellow
that it happened to still monitors the list.=0ABill Wade=0A=0AFrom: Bradly
Banks <brad@runawaymedia.co.za>=0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sund
ay, April 28, 2013 1:11 PM=0ASubject: Yak-List: Engine is making aluminum
=0A=0A=0A=0AOh dear, =C2-was all i could muster after my AME called. The
engine is 30hrs old .During a routine climb out at 80%, the aircraft develo
ped a significant rhythmic hum.enough for me to look for an alternative lan
ding option. Throttling back to 68% the vibration settled down and almost f
aded all together. Pullong in to the Amo I askedhim to look at it.=C2-=0A
Prop 30hrs=0AEngine 650hrs tt=0ASmoh 30hrs=0A=0AThe AME found that at 45% t
he instrument testing vibration reads 0, 2 then at80% was last seen passing
10.=0AThe AME pulled the prop and had the oil tested. No chrome or bearing
material but an unusual amount of aluminium in the hub (due to the centrif
uge effect).=0AThe run out is zero on the flange and there is no noticeable
lash or give in the propeller shaft.=C2-=0A=0AWe are planning on a compl
ete flush of the oil .=0AAnd fit a spare prop to rule out the prop as a sou
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| Subject: | Re: Engine is making aluminum |
If your sure its aluminum it could very well be a piston. I had a new
M-14p right from the factory where the #3 piston had a scraper ring in plac
e of
the oil ring. (Things happen like that even very "controlled" countries).
Anyway (at 438 hours) the chip light came on right as I started the engine
during a fuel stop returning from OSH. While mine didn't exhibit a
vibration, its not out of the question, particular if the balance is thrown
off
some. The pistons are machined from aluminum castings, and bits are not
unusual to find in a filter. But large amounts are a no, no. In many cas
es
the "lands" of the piston brake off and at the same time the steel rings
may brake also. The steel edges will chew the softer aluminum. If you're
lucky and the steel ring pieces haven't started migrating though the engin
e,
the aluminum is soft and less destructive.
A compression check may be able spot the offending cylinder and hopefully
only require a replacement. This can be done in 2 days if all the parts,
tools, and willing hands are at hand, along with a couple cans of beer for
your buds. OR it can be much worse.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 4/28/2013 3:21:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
brad@runawaymedia.co.za writes:
Thankyou Bill, ill keep you posted on the progress.
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-------- Original message --------
From: bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Engine is making aluminum
I remember reading about an oil ring that was replaced incorrectly quite a
few years ago that put enough metal through the engine to light the chip
detector. I don't recall if a vibration was detected, I think the fellow
that it happened to still monitors the list.
Bill Wade
From: Bradly Banks <brad@runawaymedia.co.za>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:11 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Engine is making aluminum
Oh dear, was all i could muster after my AME called. The engine is 30hrs
old .During a routine climb out at 80%, the aircraft developed a
significant rhythmic hum.enough for me to look for an alternative landing
option.
Throttling back to 68% the vibration settled down and almost faded all
together. Pullong in to the Amo I askedhim to look at it.
Prop 30hrs
Engine 650hrs tt
Smoh 30hrs
The AME found that at 45% the instrument testing vibration reads 0, 2 then
at80% was last seen passing 10.
The AME pulled the prop and had the oil tested. No chrome or bearing
material but an unusual amount of aluminium in the hub (due to the centrifu
ge
effect).
The run out is zero on the flange and there is no noticeable lash or give
in the propeller shaft.
We are planning on a complete flush of the oil .
And fit a spare prop to rule out the prop as a source of the vibration.
Any one wanting to take a shot at were the aluminium is being produced?
Regards brad
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