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1. 06:10 AM - Re: RPM Generator (Etienne Verhellen)
2. 10:05 AM - Re: Yak parachute (PaulW)
3. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: Yak parachute (Didier Blouzard)
4. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Yak parachute (Roger Kemp)
5. 10:59 AM - Turning prop wrong direction (altman51)
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 12:17 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (cjpilot710@aol.com)
8. 12:40 PM - AN-2 Compressor (Jill Gernetzke)
9. 01:56 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (Roger Kemp MD)
10. 02:31 PM - Re: RPM Generator (Etienne Verhellen)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (cjpilot710@aol.com)
12. 02:38 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (Richard Hess)
13. 03:16 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
14. 05:23 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (altman51)
15. 07:17 PM - Re: Turning prop wrong direction (doug sapp)
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| Subject: | Re: RPM Generator |
I have been informed by a very reliable source that the RPM generator for the Yak-52
is actually the DTE-6T.
See photo below : DTE-6T.
The DTA-2 Rpm generator is possibly from the Mi-2 helicopter ...
but I suspect it would work as well ...
Anyway, we have now found one and it will be installed on the aircraft
very soon. I'm sure Yak parts will be needed again in the future ... ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak parachute |
cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> The porosity of a chute is kind a important. A number of years ago, I brought
two used chutes (US Military back packs which were in excellent condition).
however when my packer look at them and at my weight (215Lb) she recommended
that if I had to use them, "Head for some trees, cause you're going to break
your ankles".
The porosity may be important when looking at your weight.
However, with a round chute, the size is just as important. 26" vs 28", etc.
So the heavier you are, the bigger your chute.
If you have a square, then size as well and more cells maybe.
I cannot say that the porosity is nothing to worry about.
Let a skydiver test jump it with a spare reserve chute for safety before buying
something else.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400690#400690
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| Subject: | Re: Yak parachute |
Hi Paul,
I find this is a very good idea to have it tested in real. i have a friend
who is a pro. i also made him jump from my YAK...... no kiding !!! jumping
out of a plane which if running fine is a nonsense !!!
I will ask him if he can test my chute. he weight more than I.
thanks for the idea
best regards
Didier
2013/5/15 PaulW <paul@budcyber.com>
>
>
> cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > The porosity of a chute is kind a important. A number of years ago, I
> brought two used chutes (US Military back packs which were in excellent
> condition). however when my packer look at them and at my weight (215Lb)
> she recommended that if I had to use them, "Head for some trees, cause
> you're going to break your ankles".
>
>
> The porosity may be important when looking at your weight.
>
> However, with a round chute, the size is just as important. 26" vs 28",
> etc.
> So the heavier you are, the bigger your chute.
>
> If you have a square, then size as well and more cells maybe.
>
> I cannot say that the porosity is nothing to worry about.
>
> Let a skydiver test jump it with a spare reserve chute for safety before
> buying something else.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400690#400690
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yak parachute |
Paul,
Did you mean 26 to 28 feet. Not 26" vs. 28" ( inches). If inches are you refering
to panel size not canopy size?
Just asking.
Doc
-----Original Message-----
>From: PaulW <paul@budcyber.com>
>Sent: May 15, 2013 12:03 PM
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak parachute
>
>
>
>cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> The porosity of a chute is kind a important. A number of years ago, I brought
two used chutes (US Military back packs which were in excellent condition).
however when my packer look at them and at my weight (215Lb) she recommended
that if I had to use them, "Head for some trees, cause you're going to break
your ankles".
>
>
>The porosity may be important when looking at your weight.
>
>However, with a round chute, the size is just as important. 26" vs 28", etc.
>So the heavier you are, the bigger your chute.
>
>If you have a square, then size as well and more cells maybe.
>
>I cannot say that the porosity is nothing to worry about.
>
>Let a skydiver test jump it with a spare reserve chute for safety before buying
something else.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400690#400690
>
>
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| Subject: | Turning prop wrong direction |
I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried in the
cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong direction.
Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what happened,
etc?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
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| Subject: | Re: Turning prop wrong direction |
Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
backwards.
Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
>
> I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried in the
cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong direction.
> Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what happened,
etc?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turning prop wrong direction |
I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start valve
(on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small rectangular slots.
You can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and open the air valve
that. This is the very same thing that little lever does on the Russian
valves. Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a generator, if the battery
is dead, yes you can start the engine, BUT you may not have enough juice in
the battery to get the alternator to running. Thus the battery stays
dead. Numerous other problems can result.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
backwards.
Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "altman51" <waltman51@comcast.net>
>
> I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried
in the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong
direction.
> Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what
happened, etc?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
>
>
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Group,
I have a new An-2 air compressor in stock. Contact me offlist, if
interested.
Jill
jill@m-14p.com
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| Subject: | Turning prop wrong direction |
Guys,
Ya'll are completely missing point here. He pulled the prop backwards 10
times. You are not thinking of the Chinese gerbils. He has gotten those
little buggars completely confused running around in the accessory case now.
They do not know which way to run. They are screwed like a Chinese Fire
Drill. They don't know whether to blow air in the compressor or suck air
through the start valve. They are totally disoriented now. With 9 turns of
the prop backwards they could have recovered from but oh no not ten! I have
been told you are going to have to use the left leaning gerbil up the
exhaust trick.
Never tried that though since my stacks all read exhaust only on the
placard. Rich says it worked on his CJ but that is hearsay but hell, he's
had his tail off in Gasden for a couple of years now. Just have to take his
word for it. MMO might fix it too. Get those Gerbils drunk on MMO and you
never know what they'll do from there! It's like Vodka Friday in Russia when
that happens!
Just my 2 cents,
Gives new meaning to CHECK 6 when CJ are in the pattern doesn't it?
:^))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Turning prop wrong direction
I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start valve
(on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small rectangular slots.
You can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and open the air valve
that. This is the very same thing that little lever does on the Russian
valves. Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a generator, if the
battery is dead, yes you can start the engine, BUT you may not have enough
juice in the battery to get the alternator to running. Thus the battery
stays dead. Numerous other problems can result.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net writes:
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
backwards.
Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
>
> I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried in
the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong direction.
> Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what
happened, etc?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RPM Generator |
Another view of the DTE-6T RPM generator for Yaks ...
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http://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Etienne%20landing%20747-400..jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Turning prop wrong direction |
Now Doc there you go again show you prejudice. Its obvious the prop
turner was taken in by the sleek and lean lines of the CJ plus its canted w
ings
ala US Corsair and just naturally swung the prop the wrong way. Now I
happen to know that the sub species (Chinkgerbilus) that is centered in the
area
of Nanchang, are quite smart as rodents go, and could quickly return to a
normal orientation if spun backward, unlike the Ruskiegerbilus from the
west of the Ural mountains, which are notorious for its females being over
weight BTW. Also BTW Chinkgerbilus are not effected by MMO. While its be
known that they get a slight "buzz" from it, their real down fall (if you
could call it that) is sake. That is the Chinese sake to be precise (also
used
a jet fuel).
Given time and the proper direction this engine should have started. Me
thinks other factors were involved. I.E. was the fuel valve turned on?
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 5/15/2013 4:56:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
viperdoc@mindspring.com writes:
Guys,
Ya=99ll are completely missing point here. He pulled the prop backwa
rds 10
times. You are not thinking of the Chinese gerbils. He has gotten those
little buggars completely confused running around in the accessory case no
w.
They do not know which way to run. They are screwed like a Chinese Fire
Drill. They don't know whether to blow air in the compressor or suck air
through the start valve. They are totally disoriented now. With 9 turns o
f the
prop backwards they could have recovered from but oh no not ten! I have be
en
told you are going to have to use the left leaning gerbil up the exhaust
trick.
Never tried that though since my stacks all read exhaust only on the
placard. Rich says it worked on his CJ but that is hearsay but hell, he
=99s had
his tail off in Gasden for a couple of years now. Just have to take his wo
rd
for it. MMO might fix it too. Get those Gerbils drunk on MMO and you never
know what they=99ll do from there! It=99s like Vodka Friday in
Russia when
that happens!
Just my 2 cents,
Gives new meaning to CHECK 6 when CJ are in the pattern doesn=99t i
t?
:^))
Doc
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.c
om
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Turning prop wrong direction
I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start valve
(on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small rectangular
slots. You can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and open the air
valve
that. This is the very same thing that little lever does on the Russian
valves. Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a generator, if the batt
ery
is dead, yes you can start the engine, BUT you may not have enough juice
in the battery to get the alternator to running. Thus the battery stays
dead. Numerous other problems can result.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net writes:
--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
backwards.
Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
>
> I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried
in the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong
direction.
> Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what
happened, etc?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turning prop wrong direction |
Mongoose flies !!!
Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885
On May 15, 2013, at 16:54, "Roger Kemp MD" <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Guys,
> Ya=99ll are completely missing point here. He pulled the prop backwa
rds 10 times. You are not thinking of the Chinese gerbils. He has gotten tho
se little buggars completely confused running around in the accessory case n
ow. They do not know which way to run. They are screwed like a Chinese Fire D
rill. They don't know whether to blow air in the compressor or suck air thr
ough the start valve. They are totally disoriented now. With 9 turns of the
prop backwards they could have recovered from but oh no not ten! I have bee
n told you are going to have to use the left leaning gerbil up the exhaust t
rick.
> Never tried that though since my stacks all read exhaust only on the placa
rd. Rich says it worked on his CJ but that is hearsay but hell, he=99
s had his tail off in Gasden for a couple of years now. Just have to take hi
s word for it. MMO might fix it too. Get those Gerbils drunk on MMO and you n
ever know what they=99ll do from there! It=99s like Vodka Friday
in Russia when that happens!
> Just my 2 cents,
> Gives new meaning to CHECK 6 when CJ are in the pattern doesn=99t it
?
> :^))
> Doc
>
>
>
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Turning prop wrong direction
>
> I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start valve (
on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small rectangular slots. Y
ou can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and open the air valve that.
This is the very same thing that little lever does on the Russian valves.
Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a generator, if the battery is dea
d, yes you can start the engine, BUT you may not have enough juice in the ba
ttery to get the alternator to running. Thus the battery stays dead. Numer
ous other problems can result.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dsavarese
0812@bellsouth.net writes:
uth.net>
>
> Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
> backwards.
>
> Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
> just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
> electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
> lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
>
> Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
> solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
>
> Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
> solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
>
> If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
> will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
> causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
> and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
> If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
> On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
> >
> > I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried i
n the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong directio
n.
> > Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what
happened, etc?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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on Web Site p;
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Turning prop wrong direction |
As a P.S. note to what Dennis and Pappy said,
If you manage to get a new air start valve without the little lever,
simply take the old one apart, and put the guts of the new one back into
the old one, so you can keep the manual start lever. Isn't that hard to
do.
Mark
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I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start
valve (on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small
rectangular slots. You can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and
open the air valve that. This is the very same thing that little lever
does on the Russian valves. Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a
generator, if the battery is dead, yes you can start the engine, BUT you
may not have enough juice in the battery to get the alternator to
running. Thus the battery stays dead. Numerous other problems can
result.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net writes:
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the
prop
backwards.
Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the
side
just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the
valve when
electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply
flip the
lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air
start
solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery
voltage.
Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the
electrical
solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start
valve still
will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up.
This
causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the
firewall
and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and
reinstalling it.
If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
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> I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had
head buried in the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6
times wrong direction.
> Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions -
information on what happened, etc?
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
>
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Thanks guy, this is all helpful. Keep it coming, I am learning...
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| Subject: | Re: Turning prop wrong direction |
Actually pappy all QDF-1 start solenoid valves start their lives with the
"little lever" on them. It's only when they get to the PLAAF units do the
levers get removed. In over 20 years of importing new and overhauled QDF-1
valves I have never received one that did not have a lever on it. The fact
that there are still some flying here in the US without levers attests to
the longevity possible if one keeps his pneumatic system clean and dry.
Doug
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote:
> **
> I'd like to add to Dennis's remarks. On the Chinese made air start valve
> (on CJs) there is no little lever, BUT there are 2 small rectangular
> slots. You can put a small flat screw blade in the slot and open the air
> valve that. This is the very same thing that little lever does on the
> Russian valves. Also - if you have an alternator and NOT a generator, if
> the battery is dead, yes you can start the engine, BUT you may not have
> enough juice in the battery to get the alternator to running. Thus the
> battery stays dead. Numerous other problems can result.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> In a message dated 5/15/2013 2:18:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> Actually the air start valve has nothing to do with turning the prop
> backwards.
>
> Many of the air start valves on the firewall have a lever on the side
> just for situations like this. It's for manually opening the valve when
> electrically it won't open. Turn on the main air and simply flip the
> lever on the air start valve and the valve will open.
>
> Low battery voltage (less than 23 volts) will cause the air start
> solenoid not to open sometimes. So first check your battery voltage.
>
> Sometimes "popping" the start button rapidly will force the electrical
> solenoid to activate and open the air start valve.
>
> If your battery voltage is at 24 or above, if the air start valve still
> will not open, then typically the air start valve is gunked up. This
> causes it not to activate. You can try removing it from the firewall
> and flushing it out, then drying it out thoroughly and reinstalling it.
> If this doesn't work, call Doug and order a new one.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (mobile)
> www.yak-52.com
> Skype - Yakguy1
>
> On 5/15/2013 12:57 PM, altman51 wrote:
> >
> > I am a new CJ operator. Recently was starting my CJ and had head buried
> in the cockpit. A friend was proping for me and turned 6 times wrong
> direction.
> > Now the start valve will not open. Any suggestions - information on what
> happened, etc?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400696#400696
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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