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1. 06:58 AM - Re: compressor problems (Mozam)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: compressor problems (Roger Kemp M.D.)
3. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: compressor problems (Gary Gabbard)
4. 09:40 AM - Re: Compressor problem (Frank Stelwagon)
5. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: compressor problems (bill wade)
6. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: compressor problems (Roger Kemp M.D.)
7. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: compressor problems (Roger Kemp M.D.)
8. 10:04 AM - Re: compressor problems (Didier BLOUZARD)
9. 11:30 AM - Re: compressor problems (Bill Geipel)
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
Ive seen this before on my plane several times. Your compressor may be just fine.
Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitting that attaches the air
line to the compressor. When the compressor reaches 3.0 ATM the fitting starts
to leak the air out and it cannot build the pressure any higher.
Id replace the crush washers while youre at it just to make sure you fix the leak.
Also, this would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all the carbon
out of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches to. If that
valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and pressures/temperatures
in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin that is supposed
to break if this happens to save your compressor.
However, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which failed to
break so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston froze in the
cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compressor body.
(It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many others have
a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad one? Probably not!
Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral spirits for a couple days to remove all the carbonworks great. It can be a pain to take apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new crush washers (I think they are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheaphttp://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313
Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
Mozam,
Thanks! I have been looking all over the place for a reasonable crush washer source.
Did not even think about McMaster Carr!
Gord, he is right about the compressor check valve at the compressor. It needs
to cleaned after about a hundred hours at the most.
I need to clone me so one can be my crew chief and I can FLY! Ah, the joys of owning
a military aircraft!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> Ive seen this before on my plane several times. Your compressor may be just fine.
Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitting that attaches the air
line to the compressor. When the compressor reaches 3.0 ATM the fitting starts
to leak the air out and it cannot build the pressure any higher.
>
> Id replace the crush washers while youre at it just to make sure you fix the
leak.
>
> Also, this would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all the carbon
out of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches to. If
that valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and pressures/temperatures
in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin that is supposed
to break if this happens to save your compressor.
>
> However, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which failed
to break so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston froze in
the cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compressor body.
(It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many others have
a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad one? Probably not!
>
> Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral spirits for a couple days to remove all the carbonworks great. It can be a pain to take apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new crush washers (I think they are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheaphttp://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313
>
> Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810
>
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
Try Harbor Freight. They have plastic assortment boxes of copper crush washers.
Gary. CJ. N22YK
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:14, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Mozam,
> Thanks! I have been looking all over the place for a reasonable crush washer
source. Did not even think about McMaster Carr!
> Gord, he is right about the compressor check valve at the compressor. It needs
to cleaned after about a hundred hours at the most.
> I need to clone me so one can be my crew chief and I can FLY! Ah, the joys of
owning a military aircraft!
> Doc
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ive seen this before on my plane several times. Your compressor may be just
fine. Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitting that attaches the
air line to the compressor. When the compressor reaches 3.0 ATM the fitting starts
to leak the air out and it cannot build the pressure any higher.
>>
>> Id replace the crush washers while youre at it just to make sure you fix the
leak.
>>
>> Also, this would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all the carbon
out of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches to. If
that valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and pressures/temperatures
in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin that is supposed
to break if this happens to save your compressor.
>>
>> However, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which failed
to break so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston froze in
the cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compressor body.
(It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many others have
a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad one? Probably not!
>>
>> Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral spirits for a couple days to remove all the carbonworks great. It can be a pain to take apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new crush washers (I think they are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheaphttp://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313
>>
>> Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Compressor problem |
If you have a good auto shop or "speed Shop" available they will have
crush washers. Most of the newer GM cars use a metric banjo fitting at
the brake calipers.
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
I just ordered some Alu washer's from summit.=C2-The lower part of the sh
aft that goes through the Banjo alows the 10mm washer to move around quite
a bit, the disigners should have put a sholder on the nut to hold the waser
in place.=0A=C2-=0ASeller: summitracing_sales( 501612 ) =0A Item title
Price Shipping price Qty Item total =0AFragola 999218 Crush Washers 1
8mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( item: 111074136794 transaction: 1033399548001 )=C2
-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
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-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2
-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =0A Paid on May-29-13
$5.95 Free 1 $5.95 =0AExpedited Shipping =0AEstimated delivery: Mo
n. Jun. 3 =0AFragola 999214 Crush Washers 14mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( ite
m: 330919352626 transaction: 830513793014 ) =0A Paid on May-29-13 $4.95
$4.95 1 $4.95 =0AExpedited Shipping =0AEstimated delivery: Mon. J
un. 3 =0AFragola 999210 Crush Washers 10mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( item: 3
30924872307 transaction: 830513794014 ) =0A Paid on May-29-13 $3.95 -
- 2 $7.90 =0AShipped with item above =0AEstimated delivery: Mon. Jun
. 3 =0A =0A Subtotal $18.80 =0A Shipping and handling $4.95
=0A Shipping Discount from seller summitracing_sales $14.85 =0A Tota
l $23.75 =0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A
From: Gary Gabbard <ggg6@att.net>=0ATo: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@
matronics.com> =0ASent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:26 AM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-Li
Gabbard <ggg6@att.net>=0A=0ATry Harbor Freight. They have plastic assortmen
t boxes of copper crush washers.=C2- Gary. CJ.=C2- N22YK=0A=0ASent from
my iPhone=0A=0AOn Jun 2, 2013, at 7:14, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindsp
viperdoc@mindspring.com>=0A> =0A> Mozam,=0A> Thanks! I have been looking al
l over the place for a reasonable crush washer source. Did not even think a
bout McMaster Carr! =0A> Gord, he is right about the compressor check valve
at the compressor. It needs to cleaned after about a hundred hours at the
most. =0A> I need to clone me so one can be my crew chief and I can FLY! Ah
, the joys of owning a military aircraft! =0A> Doc=0A> =0A> Sent from my iP
ad=0A> =0A> On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
> =0A>> I=99ve seen this before on my plane several times. Your compr
essor may be just fine. Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitti
ng that attaches the air line to the compressor. When the compressor reache
s 3.0 ATM the fitting starts to leak the air out and it cannot build the pr
essure any higher.=0A>> =0A>> I=99d replace the crush washers while y
ou=99re at it just to make sure you fix the leak.=0A>> =0A>> Also, th
is would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all the carbon ou
t of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches to. If tha
t valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and pressures/
temperatures in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin that is su
pposed to break if this happens to save your compressor. =0A>> =0A>> Howeve
r, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which failed to b
reak so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston froze in
the cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compressor bo
dy. (It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many other
s have a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad one?
Probably not!=0A>> =0A>> Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral
spirits for a couple days to remove all the carbonworks great. It
can be a pain to take apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new cru
sh washers (I think they are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheap
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313=0A>> =0A
>> Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!=0A>>
=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Read this topic online here:=0A>> =0A>> http://foru
ms.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>
==
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
Will do. They are a couple miles from my house! A maintainers Red Neck Disney Land!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 2, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Gary Gabbard <ggg6@att.net> wrote:
>
> Try Harbor Freight. They have plastic assortment boxes of copper crush washers.
Gary. CJ. N22YK
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:14, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Mozam,
>> Thanks! I have been looking all over the place for a reasonable crush washer
source. Did not even think about McMaster Carr!
>> Gord, he is right about the compressor check valve at the compressor. It needs
to cleaned after about a hundred hours at the most.
>> I need to clone me so one can be my crew chief and I can FLY! Ah, the joys of
owning a military aircraft!
>> Doc
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ive seen this before on my plane several times. Your compressor may be just
fine. Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitting that attaches the
air line to the compressor. When the compressor reaches 3.0 ATM the fitting starts
to leak the air out and it cannot build the pressure any higher.
>>>
>>> Id replace the crush washers while youre at it just to make sure you fix the
leak.
>>>
>>> Also, this would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all the carbon
out of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches to. If
that valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and pressures/temperatures
in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin that is supposed
to break if this happens to save your compressor.
>>>
>>> However, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which failed
to break so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston froze
in the cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compressor body.
(It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many others have
a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad one? Probably not!
>>>
>>> Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral spirits for a couple days to remove all the carbonworks great. It can be a pain to take apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new crush washers (I think they are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheaphttp://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313
>>>
>>> Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
Absolutely! Happens on the banjo fittings on the fuel pump also!
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 2, 2013, at 11:42 AM, bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I just ordered some Alu washer's from summit. The lower part of the shaft t
hat goes through the Banjo alows the 10mm washer to move around quite a bit,
the disigners should have put a sholder on the nut to hold the waser in pla
ce.
>
> Seller: summitracing_sales ( 501612 )
> Item title Price
> Shipping price
> Qty Item total
> Fragola 999218 Crush Washers 18mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( item: 1110741367
94 transaction: 1033399548001 )
>
> Paid on May-29-13 $5.95 Free 1
$5.95
> Expedited Shipping
> Estimated delivery: Mon. Jun. 3
> Fragola 999214 Crush Washers 14mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( item: 3309193526
26 transaction: 830513793014 )
>
> Paid on May-29-13 $4.95 $4.95 1
$4.95
> Expedited Shipping
> Estimated delivery: Mon. Jun. 3
> Fragola 999210 Crush Washers 10mm Aluminum Set of 10 ( item: 3309248723
07 transaction: 830513794014 )
>
> Paid on May-29-13 $3.95 -- 2
$7.90
> Shipped with item above
> Estimated delivery: Mon. Jun. 3
> Subtotal $18.80
> Shipping and handling $4.95
> Shipping Discount from seller summitracing_sales $14.85
> Total $23.75
>
>
>
> From: Gary Gabbard <ggg6@att.net>
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 10:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: compressor problems
>
>
> Try Harbor Freight. They have plastic assortment boxes of copper crush was
hers. Gary. CJ. N22YK
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:14, "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc@mindspring.com> wrote
:
>
om>
> >
> > Mozam,
> > Thanks! I have been looking all over the place for a reasonable crush wa
sher source. Did not even think about McMaster Carr!
> > Gord, he is right about the compressor check valve at the compressor. It
needs to cleaned after about a hundred hours at the most.
> > I need to clone me so one can be my crew chief and I can FLY! Ah, the jo
ys of owning a military aircraft!
> > Doc
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:56 AM, "Mozam" <sdalton@hughes.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I=99ve seen this before on my plane several times. Your compresso
r may be just fine. Try tightening and re-safety wiring the banjo fitting th
at attaches the air line to the compressor. When the compressor reaches 3.0 A
TM the fitting starts to leak the air out and it cannot build the pressure a
ny higher.
> >>
> >> I=99d replace the crush washers while you=99re at it just t
o make sure you fix the leak.
> >>
> >> Also, this would be a good time to remove, disassemble, and clean all t
he carbon out of the valve on the compressor that the banjo fitting attaches
to. If that valve carbons up enough the air cannot exit the compressor and p
ressures/temperatures in the compressor go sky high. There is a shear pin th
at is supposed to break if this happens to save your compressor.
> >>
> >> However, I had a shear pin in mine made of (stainless steel ?), which f
ailed to break so the pressure/temperature reached a point where the piston f
roze in the cylinder and ripped the compressor cylinder right off the compre
ssor body. (It stripped all the nuts right off the studs.) I wonder how many
others have a shear pin like minewas I the only guy to have a bad o
ne? Probably not!
> >>
> >> Disassemble the valve and soak in odorless mineral spirits for a couple
days to remove all the carbonworks great. It can be a pain to take
apart, I use a vise and big wrench. Get some new crush washers (I think the
y are 10 and 18 mm I.D.) You can get them here cheaphttp://www.mcma
ster.com/#standard-crush-washers/=n0n313
> >>
> >> Try this before you remove the compressor. That is a real PITA!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401810#401810
> >
> >
> >
> > "http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics
.cohank you for your generous nbsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
I would not replace it
Just clean everything and tight all connections
If necessary open the compressor and try first make a small overhaul yourself
Didier Blouzard
+33 6 5184 4802
Le 2 juin 2013 04:02, Gord <gord@thedampub.ca> a crit :
>
> Looks like I need a compressor overhaul or replacement. The pressure is not
getting over 3. Does anyone have a compressor for sale or a kit to overhaul.
> Gord with Yak 50 SN 01
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: compressor problems |
A great mechanic in Colorado overhauls them. If interested,
Contact me off line.
L129bs@gmail.com
Bill
On Jun 2, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Didier BLOUZARD <didier.blouzard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would not replace it
> Just clean everything and tight all connections
> If necessary open the compressor and try first make a small overhaul yourself
>
> Didier Blouzard
> +33 6 5184 4802
>
> Le 2 juin 2013 04:02, Gord <gord@thedampub.ca> a crit :
>
>>
>> Looks like I need a compressor overhaul or replacement. The pressure is not
getting over 3. Does anyone have a compressor for sale or a kit to overhaul.
>> Gord with Yak 50 SN 01
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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