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1. 04:59 AM - Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
2. 04:59 AM - Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
3. 05:07 AM - Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
4. 05:07 AM - Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
5. 05:19 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
6. 05:41 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
7. 05:57 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (cjpilot710@aol.com)
8. 06:23 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
9. 07:08 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (William Halverson)
10. 07:18 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Pete Taylor)
11. 07:25 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (James Goolsby)
12. 07:30 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (James Goolsby)
13. 07:30 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
14. 07:45 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
15. 07:49 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
16. 08:01 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Pete Taylor)
17. 11:20 AM - Avionics (George Lazik)
18. 11:21 AM - Re: Who? (Gill Gutierrez)
19. 11:44 AM - Re: Avionics (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
20. 11:45 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Dale)
21. 12:13 PM - Re: Avionics (Jan Mevis)
22. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (George Coy)
23. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
24. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
25. 01:59 PM - CJ-6A voltage control unit. (Adrian Coop Cooper)
26. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Mark Davis)
27. 03:03 PM - Re: CJ-6A voltage control unit. (Gill Gutierrez)
28. 03:08 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (bill wade)
29. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (William Halverson)
30. 03:31 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
31. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (William Halverson)
32. 03:47 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
33. 03:50 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
34. 04:02 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
35. 04:21 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (bill wade)
36. 04:39 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (bill wade)
37. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Mark Davis)
38. 05:03 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Dale)
39. 05:35 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=)
40. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
41. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
42. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Roger Kemp M.D.)
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
> Hi,
>
> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. N
ow has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 k
g. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for s
hort take off and landing fields.
>
> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>
> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, bene
fits on stall speed etc..?
>
> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>
> Best regards
>
> Havard Dale
> Norway
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
> Hi,
>
> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. N
ow has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 k
g. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for s
hort take off and landing fields.
>
> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>
> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, bene
fits on stall speed etc..?
>
> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>
> Best regards
>
> Havard Dale
> Norway
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. No
w has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg
. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for sh
ort take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rat
e most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefi
ts on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. No
w has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg
. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for sh
ort take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rat
e most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefi
ts on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said
it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on
all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
havard.dale@yaknorway.com writes:
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired
for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52,
benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow on_www.yaknorway.com_
(http://www.yaknorway.com/) when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Hi thanks,
Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said i
t made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all t
he Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dal
e@yaknorway.com writes:
> Hi,
>
> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. N
ow has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 k
g. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for s
hort take off and landing fields.
>
> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>
> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, bene
fits on stall speed etc..?
>
> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>
> Best regards
>
> Havard Dale
> Norway
>
>
> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com/
Navigator?Yak-List
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> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their
benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or
polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and
control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need
them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I
like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
havard.dale@yaknorway.com writes:
Hi thanks,
Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev _cjpilot710@aol.com_
(mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com) :
Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said
it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on
all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_havard.dale@yaknorway.com_ (mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com) writes:
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired
for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52,
benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow on_www.yaknorway.com_
(http://www.yaknorway.com/) when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Yes like that myself to!
But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! impro
vments has to be done:-)
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their b
enefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or po
lish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and contr
ol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>
> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need
them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like
the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dal
e@yaknorway.com writes:
> Hi thanks,
>
> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>
> BR
>
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>
>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said
it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on al
l the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.da
le@yaknorway.com writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for
short take off and landing fields.
>>
>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>>
>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, ben
efits on stall speed etc..?
>>
>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Havard Dale
>> Norway
>>
>>
>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?Yak-List
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
> Lengthen the field?
>
>
> On 7/9/2013 6:18 AM, Hvard Dale wrote:
>> Yes like that myself to!
>>
>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than
>> shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com
>> <mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com>:
>>
>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and
>>> their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder
>>> to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked
>>> effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of
>>> attack.
>>>
>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply
>>> don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often
>>> enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>>
>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> havard.dale@yaknorway.com <mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Hi thanks,
>>>
>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> Havard
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com
>>> <mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com>:
>>>
>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it.
>>>> Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y
>>>> airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a
>>>> problem figuring the proper placement.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> havard.dale@yaknorway.com <mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it
>>>> pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to
>>>> make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded
>>>> to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take
>>>> off and landing fields.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not
>>>> importent, climb rate most importent.
>>>>
>>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit
>>>> on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>>
>>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com
>>>> <http://www.yaknorway.com/> when we start.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Havard Dale
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>> *
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
Havard,
I have a Whirlwind 3 blade propeller,it increased climb and cruise .Also
it
provides some braking when landing.
Pete Taylor
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H=E5vard Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty
mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around
880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired
for
short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52,
benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com
<http://www.yaknorway.com/> when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
In that case I would recommend them. They should not change the ability to d
o any of the acrobatic maneuvers but they will improve the feel and control a
t low speed. They don't appear to effect the high speed part of flight. On
the early jets (i.e. B-707) they actually were used just in front of the 'h
igh speed' or inboard ailerons to increase their effectiveness in the speeds
near Mach where the air flow separation was happening at the rear of the co
rd. And that is what they do even on the likes of Cubs where the owners are
looking for super lift. A "VG" delays the flow separation on just about an
y wing. It is important that they be put in the right place for the airfoil
being used. The nice thing is that most can be glued on - nice for easy in
stallation and again nice because of the importance of accuracy of placement
.
I've seen them on just about every airplane, including Bonanzas which has th
e same airfoil as the CJ-6. BTW the Yak driver out in Cody said he put them
on because of the high density altitudes he had to operate at. That is som
ething you might need to also consider on those long hot summer days in Norw
ay. ;-)
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:18, H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com> wrote:
> Yes like that myself to!
>
> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! imp
rovments has to be done:-)
>
> BR
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>
>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their
benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or p
olish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and cont
rol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>>
>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't nee
d them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I lik
e the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.da
le@yaknorway.com writes:
>> Hi thanks,
>>
>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>
>> BR
>>
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>
>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner sai
d it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on a
ll the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placem
ent.
>>>
>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.d
ale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch
. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 88
0 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired fo
r short take off and landing fields.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
>>>
>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, be
nefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>
>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start
.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Havard Dale
>>> Norway
>>>
>>>
>>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributio
n
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
I agree with Pete. While the 530 is an "OK" basic prop, the later design Wh
irlwind is much better.
Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:14, "Pete Taylor" <taylor527@att.net> wrote:
> Havard,
> I have a Whirlwind 3 blade propeller,it increased climb and cruise .Also i
t provides some braking when landing.
> Pete Taylor
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of H=C3=A5vard Dale
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:55 AM
> To: Yak-List Digest Server; Yak-List Digest List
> Subject: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for
short take off and landing fields.
>>
>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>>
>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, ben
efits on stall speed etc..?
>>
>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Havard Dale
>> Norway
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
It's 210m, 690 feet! So it's short!
Downhill slope both ends so in and out is good.
Havard
Sendt fra min iPad
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 15:55 skrev William Halverson <william@netpros.net>:
>
>
>> Lengthen the field?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/2013 6:18 AM, Hvard Dale wrote:
>>> Yes like that myself to!
>>>
>>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than
>>> shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
>>>
>>> BR
>>> Havard
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com
>>> <mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com>:
>>>
>>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and
>>>> their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder
>>>> to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked
>>>> effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of
>>>> attack.
>>>>
>>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply
>>>> don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often
>>>> enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> havard.dale@yaknorway.com <mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Hi thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> Havard
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>>
>>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com
>>>> <mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it.
>>>>> Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y
>>>>> airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a
>>>>> problem figuring the proper placement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>>> havard.dale@yaknorway.com <mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it
>>>>> pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to
>>>>> make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded
>>>>> to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take
>>>>> off and landing fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not
>>>>> importent, climb rate most importent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit
>>>>> on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>>>
>>>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com
>>>>> <http://www.yaknorway.com/> when we start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>> Norway
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
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>>>>> s.matronics.com/ <http://s.matronics.com/>">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>>>>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Rub it in:-) long hot summer days, not mutch of that:-)
Thanks for info,
The field is 600feet ASL, and more cold then warm days I can tell:-) So that
is ok. Some benefits we have here!
Any suggestions were to buy a VG kit?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 16:21 skrev James Goolsby <cjpilot710@aol.com>:
> In that case I would recommend them. They should not change the ability t
o do any of the acrobatic maneuvers but they will improve the feel and contr
ol at low speed. They don't appear to effect the high speed part of flight.
On the early jets (i.e. B-707) they actually were used just in front of th
e 'high speed' or inboard ailerons to increase their effectiveness in the sp
eeds near Mach where the air flow separation was happening at the rear of th
e cord. And that is what they do even on the likes of Cubs where the owners
are looking for super lift. A "VG" delays the flow separation on just abou
t any wing. It is important that they be put in the right place for the air
foil being used. The nice thing is that most can be glued on - nice for eas
y installation and again nice because of the importance of accuracy of place
ment.
>
> I've seen them on just about every airplane, including Bonanzas which has t
he same airfoil as the CJ-6. BTW the Yak driver out in Cody said he put the
m on because of the high density altitudes he had to operate at. That is so
mething you might need to also consider on those long hot summer days in Nor
way. ;-)
>
> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>
> Sent from my iPad from some where on The 3rd rock from the Sun.
>
> On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:18, H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com> wrot
e:
>
>> Yes like that myself to!
>>
>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! im
provments has to be done:-)
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>
>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and thei
r benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or
polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and co
ntrol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>>>
>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't ne
ed them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I li
ke the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>>
>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.d
ale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>> Hi thanks,
>>>
>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> Havard
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>>
>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner sa
id it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on a
ll the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placem
ent.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.
dale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutc
h. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 8
80 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired f
or short take off and landing fields.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, clim
b rate most importent.
>>>>
>>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, b
enefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>>
>>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we star
t.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Havard Dale
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.c
om/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contributi
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>>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Thanks,
Do you have numbers for the thrust ratio on whirlwind prop?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 16:14 skrev "Pete Taylor" <taylor527@att.net>:
> Havard,
> I have a Whirlwind 3 blade propeller,it increased climb and cruise .Also i
t provides some braking when landing.
> Pete Taylor
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of H=C3=A5vard Dale
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:55 AM
> To: Yak-List Digest Server; Yak-List Digest List
> Subject: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for
short take off and landing fields.
>>
>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb r
ate most importent.
>>
>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, ben
efits on stall speed etc..?
>>
>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com when we start.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Havard Dale
>> Norway
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
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| Subject: | Performance Yak 52 |
The people at whirlwind could probably provide that info
Pete
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H=E5vard Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
Thanks,
Do you have numbers for the thrust ratio on whirlwind prop?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 16:14 skrev "Pete Taylor" <taylor527@att.net>:
Havard,
I have a Whirlwind 3 blade propeller,it increased climb and cruise .Also
it
provides some braking when landing.
Pete Taylor
_____
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H=E5vard Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:55 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty
mutch.
Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around
880
kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired
for
short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52,
benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onwww.yaknorway.com
<http://www.yaknorway.com/> when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
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I am considering a replacement for the Balkin-5 radio in my Yak 52. No
urgency; it's still working OK. If I do replace it, I'd like to install the
radio (or control head) in the same location as the existing radio's control
head, not in a central console between my legs. I am also considering
installing a second, remote control head in the rear cockpit. I've looked
at radios like those from MGL, X-Com, Becker, Dittel, Microair and Trig.
All have quite small footprints. Does anyone have a similar installation or
experience with any of these radios? Or does anyone have any suggestions
they'd care to make?
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Was it Scott Andrews?
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Who?
OK guys, I know this is going to sound silly, but remember I'm an old guy
and us old guys tend to have this happen every once in a while.
Question. Who am I rooming with at OSH? Over a month ago ?????? called and
emailed me about sharing a house at OSH. It sounded good - so I said yes.
Well I can't remember who.
Now be gentle with my psyche but would that good person contact me.
:-}
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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Just a few thoughts....
Microair is made in Australia and sometimes has to go there for repairs
..... which can take awhile.
I would avoid the Becker radios. Originally designed for glider use,
they are not very well shielded and can become problematic when exposed
to broadband noise, such as will happen when using something like the
P-1000 digital tach (connects to the P leads of the mags), as well as
replacing the stock ignition harness with Dennis's auto conversion kit.
Replacement of the stock ignition harness is a very good thing, and the
engine runs MUCH better, but it does raise the noise floor just
slightly. Most radios will continue to plug along very well even with
this happening, but the Becker sometimes chokes on it.
I am sure those who use the Becker successfully might object to my
comment here, but I've experienced this problem with this radio quite a
few times.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Lazik
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 14:16
Subject: Yak-List: Avionics
I am considering a replacement for the Balkin-5 radio in my Yak 52. No
urgency; it's still working OK. If I do replace it, I'd like to install
the radio (or control head) in the same location as the existing radio's
control head, not in a central console between my legs. I am also
considering installing a second, remote control head in the rear
cockpit. I've looked at radios like those from MGL, X-Com, Becker,
Dittel, Microair and Trig. All have quite small footprints. Does
anyone have a similar installation or experience with any of these
radios? Or does anyone have any suggestions they'd care to make?
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start flying
it off a 690' strip.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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I had the Becker compact in my 50, and afterwards moved that same radio to
a Yak 52 (which has Dennis' automotive plug kit).
In that 52 there's also a PM1200 intercom (excellent!!!).
Until now, no problems, but of course you have a point Mark.
These compact radios are not designed for rugged, noisy planes like the
Yak.
I did have a lot of trouble with XCOM radios on the Yak 52.
The XCOM has a remarkably strong end amplification, but is also very
sensitive to bad antenna connectors or antenna cables.
I now have an 8.33 kHz separated Funkwerk ATR833 in my Yak 50.
Seems to be VERY good, although it's also one of those compact things,
specifically designed for gliders.
On both planes (the Yak 50 and the Yak 52) I've installed a Garrecht mode
S transponder.
One thing is certain: a sloppy installation ruins the best equipment.
Jan
On 09/07/13 20:39, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD"
<mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote:
><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
>
>Just a few thoughts....
>
>Microair is made in Australia and sometimes has to go there for repairs
>..... which can take awhile.
>
>I would avoid the Becker radios. Originally designed for glider use,
>they are not very well shielded and can become problematic when exposed
>to broadband noise, such as will happen when using something like the
>P-1000 digital tach (connects to the P leads of the mags), as well as
>replacing the stock ignition harness with Dennis's auto conversion kit.
>Replacement of the stock ignition harness is a very good thing, and the
>engine runs MUCH better, but it does raise the noise floor just
>slightly. Most radios will continue to plug along very well even with
>this happening, but the Becker sometimes chokes on it.
>
>I am sure those who use the Becker successfully might object to my
>comment here, but I've experienced this problem with this radio quite a
>few times.
>
>Mark
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Lazik
>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 14:16
>To: Yak-List@matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Avionics
>
>I am considering a replacement for the Balkin-5 radio in my Yak 52. No
>urgency; it's still working OK. If I do replace it, I'd like to install
>the radio (or control head) in the same location as the existing radio's
>control head, not in a central console between my legs. I am also
>considering installing a second, remote control head in the rear
>cockpit. I've looked at radios like those from MGL, X-Com, Becker,
>Dittel, Microair and Trig. All have quite small footprints. Does
>anyone have a similar installation or experience with any of these
>radios? Or does anyone have any suggestions they'd care to make?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
You might check with Kregg Victory. He made a very light 52. As I recall he
removed all original wiring, electrical equipment and instruments and
installed Dynon stuff in the front and only an airspeed, altimeter and T&B
in the rear. Light weight alternator etc. You have to watch the CG carefully
when you make these kinds of modificatios.
George Coy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start
flying it off a 690' strip.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a problem!
Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own field.
Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" <dale@frii.com>:
>
> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start flying
it off a 690' strip.
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> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Thanks George,
Do you contact adress for Kregg?
Email me on havard.dale@yaknorway.com
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 21:24 skrev "George Coy" <george.coy@gmail.com>:
>
> You might check with Kregg Victory. He made a very light 52. As I recall he
> removed all original wiring, electrical equipment and instruments and
> installed Dynon stuff in the front and only an airspeed, altimeter and T&B
> in the rear. Light weight alternator etc. You have to watch the CG carefully
> when you make these kinds of modificatios.
> George Coy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 2:42 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
>
>
> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start
> flying it off a 690' strip.
>
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | CJ-6A voltage control unit. |
Has any one found a solid state voltage regulator that will work with the generator
on the Housai 285hp engine? Up here in Canada we are stuck by regs to continue
using the generator. So, an alternator is not really an option.
My mechanical regulator has packed it in and Doug no longer has replacements.
Can someone confirm that the generator is a type B.
Thanks for the help.
Coop.
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Coop
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
I have a couple of lightly used tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that
should solve your landing distance issue! Just here to help..... : )
Mark Davis
N44YK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hvard Dale" <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
> <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
>
> Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a
> problem! Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own
> field.
>
> Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
>
> How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
>
> Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
>
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" <dale@frii.com>:
>
>>
>> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start
>> flying it off a 690' strip.
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | CJ-6A voltage control unit. |
Check with Zeftronics in Texas, some time back they had regulator for both A
and B generator. 800-362-8985 or zeftronics.com. The type A model part
number is G2XXPN, which is used on 25, 40 or 50 amp Delco-Remy. At time I
was interested the price was ~$200.
Gill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Coop Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: Yak-List: CJ-6A voltage control unit.
--> <cooperairracing@gmail.com>
Has any one found a solid state voltage regulator that will work with the
generator on the Housai 285hp engine? Up here in Canada we are stuck by regs
to continue using the generator. So, an alternator is not really an option.
My mechanical regulator has packed it in and Doug no longer has
replacements.
Can someone confirm that the generator is a type B.
Thanks for the help.
Coop.
--------
Coop
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404317#404317
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak whic
h is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff-(about700')-that is r
equired to land in (about 1500')-so the weight loss and HP increase is go
ing to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine
where you operate. My personal-airport limit is 2,000'=0ABill Wade N4450Y
=0A=0AFrom: H=E5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>=0ATo: "yak-list@matro
nics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52=0A=0A=0A=0AYes like that mysel
f to!-=0A=0ABut when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than
shortest! improvments has to be done:-)-=0A=0ABR=0AHavard-=0A=0ASendt f
ra min iPhone 4S=0A=0ADen 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
=0A=0A=0ANo, no details.- Vortex generators have been around a long time
and their benefits are well know.- And except for making the wing harder
to clean-or polish-and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect
on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.=0A>=0A>
I'd put them on-my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't nee
d them.- I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I
like the "quaintness" of-a-vintage warbird.- Just me.=0A>=0A>Jim "Pap
py" Goolsby------=0A>=0A>In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.
M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale@yaknorway.com writes:=0A>Hi thanks,
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>BR
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Havard-=0A>>=0A>>Sendt fra min iPhone 4S=0A>>=0A>>Den 9. j
uli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Just saw a Yak 5
2TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it.- Owner said it made a "good
deal of difference".- The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, s
o you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.=0A>>>=0A>>>Ji
m "Pappy" Goolsby=0A>>>=0A>>>In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Easte
rn Daylight Time, havard.dale@yaknorway.com writes:=0A>>>Hi,=0A>>>>=0A>>>>J
ust bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. No
w has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 k
g. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for
short take off and landing fields.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Any suggestions on best pro
ppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rate most importent.=0A>>>>
=0A>>>>Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52
, benefits on stall speed etc..?=0A>>>>=0A>>>>The rebuild will be possible
to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/-when we start.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Best re
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Arresting gear maybe?
-----Original Message-----
From: H?vard Dale [mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a
problem! Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own
field. Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!! How long d
o you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000?? Nothing is imposible! Ju
st The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
"Dale" > > I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after
you start flying it off a 690' strip. > > > > >
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Think tailhook would be the last desperat Solution for landing on The strip:-)
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 23:06 skrev "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org>:
>
> I have a couple of lightly used tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that should
solve your landing distance issue! Just here to help..... : )
>
> Mark Davis
> N44YK
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hvard Dale" <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
>
>
>>
>> Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a problem!
Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own field.
>>
>> Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
>>
>> How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
>>
>> Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
>>
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" <dale@frii.com>:
>>
>>>
>>> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start flying
it off a 690' strip.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
BZ Mr. Davis!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Davis [mailto:markdavis@wbsnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 02:06 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
sed tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that should solve your landing dist
ance issue! Just here to help..... : ) Mark Davis N44YK ----- Original Me
ssage ----- From: "H=E5vard Dale" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:37 P
M Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 > --> Yak-List message po
sted by: =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?= > > > Well, maybe its not p
ossible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a > problem! Offcourse
this will be tested on other airfield before on my own > field. > > Not s
o stupid that I am testing it out on this field!! > > How long do you mea
n its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000?? > > Nothing is imposible! Just Th
e mather of finding correct Solutions:-) > > Havard > > Sendt fra min iPh
one 4S > > Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" : > >> --> Yak-List me
ssage posted by: "Dale" >> >> I would be interested in following along on
your rebuild after you start >> flying it off a 690' strip. >> >> >> >>
>> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtop
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info,
So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, d
o you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>:
> Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak whi
ch is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is requi
red to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to b
e fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you
operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
> Bill Wade N4450Y
>
> From: H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>
> Yes like that myself to!
>
> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! imp
rovments has to be done:-)
>
> BR
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>
>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their
benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or p
olish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and cont
rol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>>
>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't nee
d them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I lik
e the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>
>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>
>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.da
le@yaknorway.com writes:
>> Hi thanks,
>>
>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>
>> BR
>>
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
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>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>
>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner sai
d it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on a
ll the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
>>>
>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.d
ale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch
. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 88
0 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired fo
r short take off and landing fields.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb
rate most importent.
>>>
>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, be
nefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>
>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/ when w
e start.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Havard Dale
>>> Norway
>>>
>>>
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Please explain what you mean with arresting gear William?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:27 skrev "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>:
> Arresting gear maybe?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: H?vard Dale [mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:37 PM
> To: yak-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
>
>
> Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a p
roblem! Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own fie
ld. Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!! How long do you m
ean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000?? Nothing is imposible! Just The mat
her of finding correct Solutions:-)
>
> "Dale" > > I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after y
ou start flying it off a 690' strip. > > > > >
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
The main reason for testing out this is that for The last 5 years I have bee
n in a "war" with neigbours and The goverment for creating a safe landing fi
eld of 2000'! It seems like I am losing that battle and have to use The 690'
field! So then The big question is if we settle down with flying Super Cub o
r find Solutions for The Yak. Since I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch aft
er it suffered a hangar roof collapse it might be intresting to find out wha
t can be done with a 52!
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.co
m>:
> Hi Bill,
>
> Thanks for the info,
>
> So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance,
do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
>
> BR
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>:
>
>> Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak wh
ich is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is requ
ired to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to
be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where y
ou operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
>> Bill Wade N4450Y
>>
>> From: H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>>
>> Yes like that myself to!
>>
>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! im
provments has to be done:-)
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>
>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and thei
r benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or
polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and co
ntrol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>>>
>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't ne
ed them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I li
ke the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>>
>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.d
ale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>> Hi thanks,
>>>
>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>>
>>> BR
>>>
>>> Havard
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>>
>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner sa
id it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on a
ll the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.
dale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutc
h. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 8
80 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired f
or short take off and landing fields.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, clim
b rate most importent.
>>>>
>>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, b
enefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>>
>>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/ when
we start.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Havard Dale
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List">http://www.matronics.c
om/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
>From wheels touching to complete stop 1,500'. With practice and heavy braki
ng you might get it down to 1200' wind, altitude and temperature can help o
r hurt. But let me reiterate my personal limit is 2,000' airstrips and I've
been flying my Yak for 14 years.=0ABill Wade=0A=0AFrom: H=E5vard Dale <hav
ard.dale@yaknorway.com>=0ATo: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.
com> =0ASent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:42 PM=0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Perfor
mance Yak 52=0A=0A=0A=0AHi Bill,=0A=0AThanks for the info,=0A=0ASo take of
should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use
1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?=0A=0ABR=0AHavard=0A=0ASend
t fra min iPhone 4S=0A=0ADen 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade
154@yahoo.com>:=0A=0A=0AHi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,1
00 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff
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loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are
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2,000'=0A>Bill Wade N4450Y=0A>=0A>=0A>From: H=E5vard Dale <havard.dale@yak
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Yes Havard I would like to know how your Yak performs once you get it flyin
g. I,ve often thought about stripping mine out, I'd say I could get 240Lbs
out of the Yak, but everything works just fine now.=0ABill=0A=0AFrom: H=E5v
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s that for The last 5 years I have been in a "war" with neigbours and The g
overment for creating a safe landing field of 2000'! It seems like I am los
ing that battle and have to use The 690' field! So then The big question is
if we settle down with flying Super Cub or find Solutions for The Yak. Sin
ce I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch after it suffered a hangar roof col
lapse it might be intresting to find out what can be done with a 52!=0A=0AH
avard=0ASendt fra min iPhone 4S=0A=0ADen 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev H=E5
vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>:=0A=0A=0AHi Bill,=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks f
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1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on th
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10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>:=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi
Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which
is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff-(about700')-that is req
uired to land in (about 1500')-so the weight loss and HP increase is goin
g to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine wh
ere you operate. My personal-airport limit is 2,000'=0A>>Bill Wade N4450Y
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>From: H=E5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>=0A>>To: "yak
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013 9:18 AM=0A>>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A
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ls.- Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits ar
e well know.- And except for making the wing harder to clean-or polish
-and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and contro
l effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.=0A>>>=0A>>>I'd put them on
-my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them.- I ju
st don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quain
tness" of-a-vintage warbird.- Just me.=0A>>>=0A>>>Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take off and landing fields.
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Arresting gear is the shipboard system of cross deck pennants (wires)
and arresting gear engines that wayward Naval Aviators attempt to snag
with their tailhook while attempting to return to their perch.
Mark Davis
N44YK
(Former Garuda and Guntrain Paddles)
----- Original Message -----
From: H=E5vard Dale
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Please explain what you mean with arresting gear William?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:27 skrev "William Halverson"
<william@netpros.net>:
Arresting gear maybe?
-----Original Message-----
From: H?vard Dale [mailto:havard.dale@yaknorway.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:37 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing
may be a problem! Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before
on my own field. Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000?? Nothing is
imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
"Dale" > > I would be interested in following along on your
rebuild after you start flying it off a 690' strip. > > > > >
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Everything you want has already been done to the TW. I would never try to fly
mine off 700 ft. And expect to keep from the insurance company.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404335#404335
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Bill,
Updates will come on our website www.yaknorway.com
Thanks for The information
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 01:34 skrev bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>:
> Yes Havard I would like to know how your Yak performs once you get it flyi
ng. I,ve often thought about stripping mine out, I'd say I could get 240Lbs o
ut of the Yak, but everything works just fine now.
> Bill
> From: H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>
> The main reason for testing out this is that for The last 5 years I have b
een in a "war" with neigbours and The goverment for creating a safe landing f
ield of 2000'! It seems like I am losing that battle and have to use The 690
' field! So then The big question is if we settle down with flying Super Cub
or find Solutions for The Yak. Since I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch a
fter it suffered a hangar roof collapse it might be intresting to find out w
hat can be done with a 52!
>
> Havard
>
> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>
> Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.
com>:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for the info,
>>
>> So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance
, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
>>
>> BR
>> Havard
>>
>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>
>> Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak w
hich is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is req
uired to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going t
o be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where y
ou operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
>>> Bill Wade N4450Y
>>>
>>> From: H=C3=A5vard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
>>> To: "yak-list@matronics.com" <yak-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Performance Yak 52
>>>
>>> Yes like that myself to!
>>>
>>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! i
mprovments has to be done:-)
>>>
>>> BR
>>> Havard
>>>
>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>
>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>>
>>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and the
ir benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean o
r polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and c
ontrol effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
>>>>
>>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't n
eed them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I l
ike the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
>>>>
>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.
dale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>>> Hi thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>>
>>>> Havard
>>>>
>>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
>>>>
>>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710@aol.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner s
aid it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on
all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement
.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard
.dale@yaknorway.com writes:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mut
ch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 8
80 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired f
or short take off and landing fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, cli
mb rate most importent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, b
enefits on stall speed etc..?
>>>>>
>>>>> The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/ whe
n we start.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Havard Dale
>>>>> Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
>From the IAK 52 Flight Manual,
1.3.4. T-O run at 120 k/m takeoff speed:
- for landplane - 180 m
- for skiplane - 200 m
1.3.5. Landing Run at 115 km/h contact speed:
- for land plane- 300 m
- for skiplane - 240 m
Did I see in an earlier post that said the length of your runway was 690 feet with
an upslope and a down slope at either end?
Don't think take off is going to be a problem. That even with assuming that your
take off runs will be extended at first because of the uphill run to the crest
of your runway depending the grade. Landings...well maybe you may want to make
that runway more like 1500 feet at a minimum so you can have a margin of
error.
Just my two cents.
Doc
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On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Hvard Dale <havard.dale@yaknorway.com> wrote:
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> Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a problem!
Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own field.
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> Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
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> How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
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> Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
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> Havard
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> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
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> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" <dale@frii.com>:
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>> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start flying
it off a 690' strip.
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Yes forgot that one! With a little aft bulk head strengthening the tail hook should
work.
Doc
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On Jul 9, 2013, at 4:06 PM, "Mark Davis" <markdavis@wbsnet.org> wrote:
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> I have a couple of lightly used tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that should
solve your landing distance issue! Just here to help..... : )
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> Mark Davis
> N44YK
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hvard Dale" <havard.dale@yaknorway.com>
> To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
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>> Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a problem!
Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own field.
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>> Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
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>> How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
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>> Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
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>> Havard
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>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
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>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev "Dale" <dale@frii.com>:
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>>> I would be interested in following along on your rebuild after you start flying
it off a 690' strip.
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404309#404309
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Yak 52 |
Dale,
Please explain. You have a tail hook and arresting gear already installed on your
52 TW?
If so please post pictures. I am sure there are a few ol Naval aviators lurking
on this list that would really love to see the mechanics of your arrangement.
It bring back days of glory when they all sought the "3 wire" on their crash
landings on the decks of their "boats".
We AF pukes on requested the "cable" when we had a hydualic system failure. Twice
in my long and illustrious life was I in the "barrier".
Yes, Dale, I do believe the Naval crash landers on the list can help with this
issue.
Doc
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On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:59 PM, "Dale" <dale@frii.com> wrote:
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> Everything you want has already been done to the TW. I would never try to fly
mine off 700 ft. And expect to keep from the insurance company.
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