---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/10/13: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:00 AM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Dale) 2. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 3. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Roger Kemp M.D.) 4. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 5. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 6. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 7. 08:18 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=) 8. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bill Geipel) 9. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 10. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) 11. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (bill wade) 12. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (=?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?=) 13. 04:02 PM - FLAT SPINNING in a Yak-52 .... ;-)) (Etienne Verhellen) 14. 05:18 PM - Re: Performance Yak 52 (Dale) 15. 06:41 PM - Re: FLAT SPINNING in a Yak-52 .... ;-)) (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD) 16. 11:46 PM - Re: Re: Performance Yak 52 (Bradly Banks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:16 AM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 From: "Dale" I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404361#404361 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 From: Bradly Banks SWYgeW91J3JlIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIGEgbWFqb3Igd2VpZ2h0IGltcHJvdmVtZW50ICwgLCB0aGUg T3Jsb3YgZGVzaWduIGJ1cmVhdSBpbiBPZGVzc2EgY2FuIHNvcnQgeW91IG91dCB3aXRoIGEgc2V0 IG9mIGNvbXBvc2l0ZSB3aW5ncyArNy00IGcgaW4gdGhlIFREIGNvbmZpZ3VyYXRpb24uIMKgU2Ft ZSB3aW5nIGRlc2lnbiBvbmx5IHdpdGggc2xvdHRlZCBmbGFwcyBvbiBlYWNoIHdpbmcgd2l0aCBl bGVjdHJpY2FsIMKgbXVsdGkgcG9zaXRpb24gYWN0dWF0b3IuIMKgOTBMIHBlciBzaWRlIHdpdGgg aW50ZXJncmF0ZWQgdGFua3MgLlN0YW5kYXJkIHlhayBhaXIgb3BlcmF0ZWQgcmV0cmFjdGFibGUg Z2Vhci4gQWxsIGluIGZvciBhcm91bmQgJDI2LCAwMDAuCgpSZWdhcmRzCkJyYWQgQmFua3MKCgpT ZW50IGZyb20gU2Ftc3VuZyBNb2JpbGUKCi0tLS0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIG1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0t LS0KRnJvbTogRGFsZSA8ZGFsZUBmcmlpLmNvbT4gCkRhdGU6ICAKVG86IHlhay1saXN0QG1hdHJv bmljcy5jb20gClN1YmplY3Q6IFlhay1MaXN0OiBSZTogUGVyZm9ybWFuY2UgWWFrIDUyIAogCi0t PiBZYWstTGlzdCBtZXNzYWdlIHBvc3RlZCBieTogIkRhbGUiIDxkYWxlQGZyaWkuY29tPgoKSSB3 YXNuJ3QgdGFsa2luZyBhYm91dCB0aGUgQlMgdGFpbCBob29rIHN0dWZmLgoKCgoKUmVhZCB0aGlz IHRvcGljIG9ubGluZSBoZXJlOgoKaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL3ZpZXd0b3Bp Yy5waHA/cD00MDQzNjEjNDA0MzYxCgoKCgoKCgpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpfLT3CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqAg LSBUaGUgWWFrLUxpc3QgRW1haWwgRm9ydW0gLQpfLT0gVXNlIHRoZSBNYXRyb25pY3MgTGlzdCBG ZWF0dXJlcyBOYXZpZ2F0b3IgdG8gYnJvd3NlCl8tPSB0aGUgbWFueSBMaXN0IHV0aWxpdGllcyBz dWNoIGFzIExpc3QgVW4vU3Vic2NyaXB0aW9uLApfLT0gQXJjaGl2ZSBTZWFyY2ggJiBEb3dubG9h ZCwgNy1EYXkgQnJvd3NlLCBDaGF0LCBGQVEsCl8tPSBQaG90b3NoYXJlLCBhbmQgbXVjaCBtdWNo IG1vcmU6Cl8tPQpfLT3CoMKgIC0tPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vTmF2aWdhdG9y P1lhay1MaXN0Cl8tPQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQpfLT3CoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIC0gTUFU Uk9OSUNTIFdFQiBGT1JVTVMgLQpfLT0gU2FtZSBncmVhdCBjb250ZW50IGFsc28gYXZhaWxhYmxl IHZpYSB0aGUgV2ViIEZvcnVtcyEKXy09Cl8tPcKgwqAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9u aWNzLmNvbQpfLT0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0KXy09wqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgIC0gTGlzdCBDb250 cmlidXRpb24gV2ViIFNpdGUgLQpfLT3CoCBUaGFuayB5b3UgZm9yIHlvdXIgZ2VuZXJvdXMgc3Vw cG9ydCEKXy09wqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKgwqDCoMKg wqDCoMKgwqDCoCAtTWF0dCBEcmFsbGUsIExpc3QgQWRtaW4uCl8tPcKgwqAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly93 d3cubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9jb250cmlidXRpb24KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0KCgoK ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. G oogle gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada. Thanks, Doc Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the win gs that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest. Thanks, Doc Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks wrote: > If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bure au in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with e lectrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .St andard yak air operated retractable gear. 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Do you have pictures and more info on The wing kit? BR Havard Sendt fra min iPhone 4S Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 16:41 skrev Bradly Banks : > During a recent visit to the Ukraine , I visited his factory. Sergey (serg e) is a graduate of the MiG institute in Moscow. He is a composite specialis t .I have commissioned a set of yak composite wings from him, myself. I can v ouch for him , he is a very demure quiet man with little to say but enormous experience. > Brad > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Bradly Banks > Date: > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 > > > Sure its Sergey orlov and his company is airnotika ill put the email addre ss up later on today > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Roger Kemp M.D." > Date: > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 > > > Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them . Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada. > Thanks, > Doc > > Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted wit h a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasi bly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the w ings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest. > Thanks, > Doc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks wrote: > >> If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bur eau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the T D configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks . Standard yak air operated retractable gear. 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I purchased my Yak from Termikas and he really like the Yak 52 so he did a deal with Serge. Serge missed the delivery time and keep leading m y friend on until he demanded delivery my friend got a nicely painted 5G de relict many parts were missing and all data plates removed an M14 N or II d efiantly not a flying airplane. He went on to buy a damaged yak and used th e derelicts parts to make a nice airplane. I was truly amazed that all skin parts matched up perfectly. Would not deal with Serge not trustworthy in m y book, would deal with Termikas what he says is what you get!!=0ABill Wade N4450Y=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0ASerge has a ll the technical information regarding this project, it is by no means a co mmercial venture yet with a production line. =C2-But if you would like to be part of a select group of HP 52TD's then by all means join us. My desig n brief was that the composite set were to fit directly on to any existing 52 =C2-as a kit. Along with the electrical modifications.=C2-=0A=0A=0AB rad Banks=0A=0A=0ASent from Samsung Mobile=0A=0A=0A-------- Original messag e --------=0AFrom: H=C3=A5vard Dale =0ADate: =0ATo: yak-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 =0A=0A=0A=0AIntresting,=C2-=0A=0ABut The Email adress is not in use? =0A=0ADo you have pictures and more info on The wing kit?=0A=0ABR=0AHavard =C2-=0A=0ASendt fra min iPhone 4S=0A=0ADen 10. juli 2013 kl. 16:41 skrev Bradly Banks :=0A=0A=0ADuring a recent visit to th e Ukraine , I visited his factory. Sergey (serge) is a graduate of the MiG institute in Moscow. He is a composite specialist .I have commissioned a se t of yak composite wings from him, myself. I can vouch for him , he is a ve ry demure quiet man with little to say but enormous experience.=C2-=0A>Br ad=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Sent from Samsung Mobile=0A>=0A>=0A>-------- Original message --------=0A>From: Bradly Banks =0A>Date: =0A>To: yak-list@matronics.com =0A>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Sure its Sergey orlov and his company is airnotika i ll put the email address up later on today=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Sent from Sam sung Mobile=0A>=0A>=0A>-------- Original message --------=0A>From: "Roger K emp M.D." =0A>Date: =0A>To: yak-list@matronics.co m =0A>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Interes ting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada.=0A>Thanks,=0A>Doc =0A>=0A>=0A>Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in t hat. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest.=0A>Thanks, =0A>Doc=0A>=0A>Sent from my iPad=0A>=0A>On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. =C2-Sa me wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical =C2-m ulti position actuator. =C2-90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. 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Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:50 PM PST US From: =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=A5vard_Dale?= Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 Noted! I also have only god experience with Termikas! BR Havard Sendt fra min iPhone 4S Den 11. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade : > Guys a very good friend of mine had a very bad experience with Serge, back in 2001. I purchased my Yak from Termikas and he really like the Yak 52 so h e did a deal with Serge. Serge missed the delivery time and keep leading my f riend on until he demanded delivery my friend got a nicely painted 5G dereli ct many parts were missing and all data plates removed an M14 N or II defian tly not a flying airplane. He went on to buy a damaged yak and used the dere licts parts to make a nice airplane. I was truly amazed that all skin parts m atched up perfectly. Would not deal with Serge not trustworthy in my book, w ould deal with Termikas what he says is what you get!! > Bill Wade N4450Y > > > > > > > Serge has all the technical information regarding this project, it is by n o means a commercial venture yet with a production line. But if you would l ike to be part of a select group of HP 52TD's then by all means join us. My d esign brief was that the composite set were to fit directly on to any existi ng 52 as a kit. Along with the electrical modifications. > > Brad Banks > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: H=C3=A5vard Dale > Date: > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 > > > Intresting, > > But The Email adress is not in use? > > Do you have pictures and more info on The wing kit? > > BR > Havard > > Sendt fra min iPhone 4S > > Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 16:41 skrev Bradly Banks : > >> During a recent visit to the Ukraine , I visited his factory. Sergey (ser ge) is a graduate of the MiG institute in Moscow. He is a composite speciali st .I have commissioned a set of yak composite wings from him, myself. I can vouch for him , he is a very demure quiet man with little to say but enormo us experience. >> Brad >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Bradly Banks >> Date: >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 >> >> >> Sure its Sergey orlov and his company is airnotika ill put the email addr ess up later on today >> >> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Roger Kemp M.D." >> Date: >> To: yak-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 >> >> >> Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for the m. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada. >> Thanks, >> Doc >> >> Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted wi th a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feas ibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest. >> Thanks, >> Doc >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks wrote : >> >>> If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bu reau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the T D configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks . Standard yak air operated retractable gear. 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========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:45 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: FLAT SPINNING in a Yak-52 .... ;-)) From: "Etienne Verhellen" Last week-end in sunny Belgium ... Flat spinning (and other aerobatic flying) in a good old Yakovlev : http://youtu.be/dBeOu-hrRYc Have a look at the ailerons @ 1:30 on the above video : (Go full screen) FLAT SPIN to the right (WITH the engine at FULL power for maximum flattening) with FULL left stick (left aileron fully UP) and ... right aileron fully down of course ! So, outspin ailerons and elevator "unloaded" about one third to increase "flatiness" and rotation speed ... it goes pretty wild ! :-)) Recovery keeping full power ... ! ;-) ENJOY. Looking at it from outside the plane : http://youtu.be/X0xVxRt7498 Cheers, Etienne. http://fanairplane.free.fr/affichage2.php?img=15648 http://forums.matronics.com/files/yak_52_g_cbss_etienne_verhellen_781.jpg -------- http://ukga.com/content/view?contentId=29581 http://ukga.com/images/content/image29581.jpg http://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Heimo_Lamberg_011.jpg http://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Etienne%20landing%20747-400..jpg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404424#404424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10226_858.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10227_948.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10229_332.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10230_750.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10231_750.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/zoersel__august_2011_1_136.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tom_houquet_229_581.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:19 PM PST US Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52 From: "Dale" Did a quick calculation of my Radial Rocke whicike the Yak is also not a stol aircraft. WITHOUT the Mark 52 tailhook conversion is 1650 lbs empty, 300 lbs lighter than a stripped 52 or 500 lbs lighter than a stock one. ROCKET has a 400+ hp, MT simitar. 3 blade prop and true electric flaps not speed brakes. SPEC shows a 800 ft take off roll or 9 seconds followed by a 3500 fpm climb with pilot and standard fuel loaded. Not a Yak I know. Lighter faster food for thought. Load it up and numbers change fast. HAY BILL :P Dale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404429#404429 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:57 PM PST US Subject: RE: Yak-List: FLAT SPINNING in a Yak-52 .... ;-)) From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" That's nice, thanks for sharing. From: Etienne Verhellen Sent: Wed 7/10/2013 6:58 PM Subject: Yak-List: FLAT SPINNING in a Yak-52 .... ;-)) Last week-end in sunny Belgium ... Flat spinning (and other aerobatic flying) in a good old Yakovlev : http://youtu.be/dBeOu-hrRYc Have a look at the ailerons @ 1:30 on the above video : (Go full screen) FLAT SPIN to the right (WITH the engine at FULL power for maximum flattenin g) with FULL left stick (left aileron fully UP) and ... right aileron fully down of course ! So, outspin=EF=BB ailerons and elevator "unloaded" about one third to in crease "flatiness" and rotation speed ... it goes pretty wild ! :-)) Recovery keeping full power ... ! ;-) ENJOY. Looking at it from outside the plane : http://youtu.be/X0xVxRt7498 Cheers, Etienne. http://fanairplane.free.fr/affichage2.php?img=15648 http://forums.matronics.com/files/yak_52_g_cbss_etienne_verhellen_781.jpg -------- http://ukga.com/content/view?contentId=29581 http://ukga.com/images/content/image29581.jpg http://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Heimo_Lamberg_011.jpg http://www.flyredstar.org/gallery2/Yak/Etienne%20landing%20747-400..jpg Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404424#404424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10226_858.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10227_948.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10229_332.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10230_750.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/sdc10231_750.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/zoersel__august_2011_1_136.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tom_houquet_229_581.jpg ________________________________ Message 16 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