---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/24/13: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:15 AM - Systems / limitations written (Todd McCutchan) 2. 06:29 PM - smoking again (cjpilot710@aol.com) 3. 07:08 PM - Re: smoking again (Tom Elliott) 4. 07:25 PM - Re: smoking again (Roger Kemp M.D.) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:07 AM PST US From: "Todd McCutchan" Subject: Yak-List: Systems / limitations written I am trying to come up with a systems / limitations written exam for a Yak 50. If anyone has one or one for a Yak 52 and could send it my way it would be appreciated. Thanks! Todd McCutchan Fast Aircraft T-34A & Yak-50 Cell - 260.402.1740 Email: todd@fastaircraft.com Skype: tmccutchan Web: www.fastaircraft.com & www.toddmccutchanairshows.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:25 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Yak-List: smoking again Troops, Some times a problem has the simplest answer. I=99ve been having a problem with my smoke system for about a year. I didn=99t use it a lot becau se it dirtied up the bottom of my CJ so I was in no hurry to really fix it. But lately with the sequestration, my co-hearts & I have been getting a lot of request to do fly-bys for one function or another. Thus the need for smo ke now, and I started looking into it. At first I thought it was the pump that had finally crapped out. The pump was a un-repairable red-tagged 24v fuel transfer pump whose bearings were going bad. It was cheap (like free) and perfectly OK for the job. So I got a brand new 24v pump. Same problem, very little flow out the exhaust stacks. So than I checked the injectors in the exhaust stacks themselves, figuring they might simply be clogged. I cleaned and made sure the holes were opened. Same problem. That left the electric shut off valve. I by passed the valve with the hoses, and sure enough I had free flow! Ah Ha! Must be a bad 24v electric shut valve. Now this valve was originally the oil delusion valve that came with the airplane when I brought her some 18 years ago. The way I set up the wiring was to open this valve when the pump was turned on. When I built my smoke system (I am cheap) I left it in the same spot but put my smoke oil plumin g though it. That=99s when I came to the Yaklist to seek out a substitute. Howe ver it turned out that Dough Sapp had a brand new original delusion valve in stoc k, which I bought. Not cheap (free is perfect) but definitely reasonable. Soooooo yesterday as I remove the old valve from the front firewall, I found that the cannon plug for its power was NOT HOOKED UP! As a matter o f fact I at first I could not even find it! So I got out the flash light a nd after a peering around in the area between the 1st & 2nd firewalls, I foun d it wrapped around some of the airlines. That must have happen in my little acro routines. Boy! Did I feel stupid. But as my wife (a retired social worker ) says =9CHoney, think of it as a "learning experience" =9D. Well now I have a new pump, and a new shutoff valve. And I got a lot of suggestions from a lot of caring folks on this list. But perhaps I could h ave gotten another 18 years on the system IF I had just look a little deeper. Yes I =99m still a CASOB. KISS Jim "Pappy" Goolsby ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:45 PM PST US From: "Tom Elliott" Subject: RE: Yak-List: smoking again Pappy how long has your valve been delusional? Tom Elliott CJ-6A NX63727 777 Quartz Ave PMB 7004 Sandy Valley NV 89019 Cell 541-297-5497 N13472@AOL.COM From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Yak-List: smoking again Troops, Some times a problem has the simplest answer. I=99ve been having a problem with my smoke system for about a year. I didn=99t use it a lot because it dirtied up the bottom of my CJ so I was in no hurry to really fix it. But lately with the sequestration, my co-hearts & I have been getting a lot of request to do fly-bys for one function or another. Thus the need for smoke now, and I started looking into it. At first I thought it was the pump that had finally crapped out. The pump was a un-repairable red-tagged 24v fuel transfer pump whose bearings were going bad. It was cheap (like free) and perfectly OK for the job. So I got a brand new 24v pump. Same problem, very little flow out the exhaust stacks. So than I checked the injectors in the exhaust stacks themselves, figuring they might simply be clogged. I cleaned and made sure the holes were opened. Same problem. That left the electric shut off valve. I by passed the valve with the hoses, and sure enough I had free flow! Ah Ha! Must be a bad 24v electric shut valve. Now this valve was originally the oil delusion valve that came with the airplane when I brought her some 18 years ago. The way I set up the wiring was to open this valve when the pump was turned on. When I built my smoke system (I am cheap) I left it in the same spot but put my smoke oil pluming though it. That=99s when I came to the Yaklist to seek out a substitute. However it turned out that Dough Sapp had a brand new original delusion valve in stock, which I bought. Not cheap (free is perfect) but definitely reasonable. Soooooo yesterday as I remove the old valve from the front firewall, I found that the cannon plug for its power was NOT HOOKED UP! As a matter of fact I at first I could not even find it! So I got out the flash light and after a peering around in the area between the 1st & 2nd firewalls, I found it wrapped around some of the airlines. That must have happen in my little acro routines. Boy! Did I feel stupid. But as my wife (a retired social worker ) says =9CHoney, think of it as a "learning experience"=9D. Well now I have a new pump, and a new shutoff valve. And I got a lot of suggestions from a lot of caring folks on this list. But perhaps I could have gotten another 18 years on the system IF I had just look a little deeper. Yes I=99m still a CASOB. KISS Jim "Pappy" Goolsby No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 09/23/13 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Yak-List: smoking again From: "Roger Kemp M.D." Takes about 40 years when you smoke! It is irreversible after that. ;^)) Doc Sent from my iPad On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "Tom Elliott" wrote: > Pappy how long has your valve been delusional? > > > Tom Elliott > CJ-6A NX63727 > 777 Quartz Ave > PMB 7004 > Sandy Valley NV > 89019 > Cell 541-297-5497 > N13472@AOL.COM > > > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:27 PM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Yak-List: smoking again > > Troops, > > Some times a problem has the simplest answer. I=99ve been having a p roblem with my smoke system for about a year. I didn=99t use it a lot because it dirtied up the bottom of my CJ so I was in no hurry to really fi x it. But lately with the sequestration, my co-hearts & I have been getting a lot of request to do fly-bys for one function or another. Thus the need f or smoke now, and I started looking into it. > > At first I thought it was the pump that had finally crapped out. The pump was a un-repairable red-tagged 24v fuel transfer pump whose bearings were g oing bad. It was cheap (like free) and perfectly OK for the job. So I got a brand new 24v pump. Same problem, very little flow out the exhaust stacks. So than I checked the injectors in the exhaust stacks themselves, figuring they might simply be clogged. I cleaned and made sure the holes were opene d. Same problem. That left the electric shut off valve. I by passed the v alve with the hoses, and sure enough I had free flow! Ah Ha! Must be a bad 24v electric shut valve. > Now this valve was originally the oil delusion valve that came with the ai rplane when I brought her some 18 years ago. The way I set up the wiring wa s to open this valve when the pump was turned on. When I built my smoke sys tem (I am cheap) I left it in the same spot but put my smoke oil pluming tho ugh it. > > That=99s when I came to the Yaklist to seek out a substitute. Howev er it turned out that Dough Sapp had a brand new original delusion valve in s tock, which I bought. Not cheap (free is perfect) but definitely reasonable . Soooooo yesterday as I remove the old valve from the front firewall, I fo und that the cannon plug for its power was NOT HOOKED UP! As a matter of fa ct I at first I could not even find it! So I got out the flash light and af ter a peering around in the area between the 1st & 2nd firewalls, I found it wrapped around some of the airlines. That must have happen in my little ac ro routines. Boy! Did I feel stupid. But as my wife (a retired social work er ) says =9CHoney, think of it as a "learning experience"=9D. W ell now I have a new pump, and a new shutoff valve. And I got a lot of sugg estions from a lot of caring folks on this list. But perhaps I could have g otten another 18 years on the system IF I had just look a little deeper. Ye s I=99m still a CASOB. > > KISS > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4117 / 09/23/13 > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message yak-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Yak-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/yak-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.