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2. 09:33 AM - Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (keithmckinley)
3. 12:23 PM - Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (Pete Fowler)
4. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (Ernest Martinez)
5. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (Rico Jaeger)
6. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (Ernest Martinez)
7. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ (Ernest Martinez)
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I am in need of a brush spring for a CJ generator and the wire/cable
from the shower of sparks to the left mag. I have checked with Doug and
these are none stocking item. Thanks Kelley
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
I'll give you mine for a bag of magic beans and the name of 3 guys with military
backgrounds that want to go in on an L-39.
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Keith McKinley
700HS
X26 Sebastian, FL
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
> How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the original
Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
>
The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim Selby, it's
believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs but Jim is familiar
with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated based on a guess of 3500
hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U.S. since 1991 (it's one
of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last 22 years. The engine that's
on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that the plane previously had that I
believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the engine installation back in 2007 or
so).
The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life. Eventually
a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time I do and how
much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes across the airport and
warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do all my maintenance based
on tach hours.
> Was the ADF wiring removed?
>
Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has original wiring
but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the original radio boxes
in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge them and make them
into storage bins.
> What prompted the prop replacement?
>
I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and got a
pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in front of me
that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I replaced the blades.
> Any damage history?
>
Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a search for 4183E,
there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the original Piper
that carried that N number before this plane had it).
> What oil are you using?
>
Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hour oil changes
with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the oil change
interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Phillips. I just did
an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system service (dryer) and
50 hour greasing the landing gear.
To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so it's great
to
see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change interval."
> Does it have schrader fittings?
>
Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have the valve
and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can include in the
sale.
> What else is included in the sale?
>
It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill shutters
and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff like that. Flying
helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
>
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410085#410085
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
Thanks,
I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures with
those who were using Exxon.
WIll get back to you.
Ernie
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> > How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the
> original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
> >
>
>
> The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim
> Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs
> but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated base
d
> on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U.
S.
> since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last 2
2
> years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that the
> plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the engi
ne
> installation back in 2007 or so).
>
> The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life.
> Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time
I
> do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes across
> the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do al
l
> my maintenance based on tach hours.
>
>
> > Was the ADF wiring removed?=EF=BD
> >
>
>
> Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has original
> wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the original
> radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge the
m
> and make them into storage bins.
>
>
> > What prompted the prop replacement?
> >
>
>
> I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and
> got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in
> front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I
> replaced the blades.
>
>
> > Any damage history?
> >
>
>
> Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a search
> for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the
> original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it).
>
>
> > What oil are you using?
> >
>
>
> Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hour
> oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the o
il
> change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Phillip
s.
> I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system
> service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.
>
> To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so
> it's great to
> see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change interval
."
>
>
> > Does it have schrader fittings?
> >
>
>
> Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have
> the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can
> include in the sale.
>
>
> > What else is included in the sale?
> >
>
>
> It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill
> shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff like
> that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
>
>
> >
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410085#410085
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
Sorry to butt in here guys, but....can you tell me more about the
compressor failures??
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks,
>
> I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures with
> those who were using Exxon.
>
> WIll get back to you.
>
> Ernie
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the
>> original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
>> >
>>
>>
>> The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim
>> Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original logs
>> but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated bas
ed
>> on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the U
.S.
>> since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last
22
>> years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that th
e
>> plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the eng
ine
>> installation back in 2007 or so).
>>
>> The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life.
>> Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation time
I
>> do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes acros
s
>> the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do a
ll
>> my maintenance based on tach hours.
>>
>>
>> > Was the ADF wiring removed?=EF=BD
>> >
>>
>>
>> Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has origina
l
>> wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have the origina
l
>> radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them and hinge th
em
>> and make them into storage bins.
>>
>>
>>
>> > What prompted the prop replacement?
>> >
>>
>>
>> I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago and
>> got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in
>> front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I
>> replaced the blades.
>>
>>
>> > Any damage history?
>> >
>>
>>
>> Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a searc
h
>> for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other than the
>> original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it).
>>
>>
>>
>> > What oil are you using?
>> >
>>
>>
>> Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50 hou
r
>> oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validates the
oil
>> change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer the Philli
ps.
>> I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air system
>> service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.
>>
>> To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so
>> it's great to
>> see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change
>> interval."
>>
>>
>>
>> > Does it have schrader fittings?
>> >
>>
>>
>> Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have
>> the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can
>> include in the sale.
>>
>>
>>
>> > What else is included in the sale?
>> >
>>
>>
>> It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gill
>> shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff lik
e
>> that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410085#410085
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> ==========
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>> k">http://forums.matronics.com
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>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Choir / Wausau East High School
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
Oh shoot, I thought this was off list.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger@wausau.k12.wi.us>wrot
e:
> Sorry to butt in here guys, but....can you tell me more about the
> compressor failures??
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>wrote
:
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures wit
h
>> those who were using Exxon.
>>
>> WIll get back to you.
>>
>> Ernie
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the
>>> original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim
>>> Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original log
s
>>> but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated ba
sed
>>> on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the
U.S.
>>> since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the last
22
>>> years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that t
he
>>> plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the en
gine
>>> installation back in 2007 or so).
>>>
>>> The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life.
>>> Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation tim
e I
>>> do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes acro
ss
>>> the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do
all
>>> my maintenance based on tach hours.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Was the ADF wiring removed?=EF=BD
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has
>>> original wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have t
he
>>> original radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them an
d
>>> hinge them and make them into storage bins.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > What prompted the prop replacement?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago an
d
>>> got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running up in
>>> front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I
>>> replaced the blades.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Any damage history?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a
>>> search for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other t
han
>>> the original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it)
.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > What oil are you using?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50
>>> hour oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validate
s
>>> the oil change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer t
he
>>> Phillips. I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour air
>>> system service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.
>>>
>>> To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, so
>>> it's great to
>>> see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change
>>> interval."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Does it have schrader fittings?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I have
>>> the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can
>>> include in the sale.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > What else is included in the sale?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some gil
l
>>> shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...stuff li
ke
>>> that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410085#410085
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==========
>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> ==========
>>> MS -
>>> k">http://forums.matronics.com
>>> ==========
>>> e -
>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> ==========
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> *
>>
>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Rico Jaeger
> Choir / Wausau East High School
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I'm back and shopping for CJ |
All,
I'm sorry for all this noise. I thought I was responding directly to the
owners.
Anyone that wants to send me their CJ info please contact me off list.
Thanks
Ernie
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh shoot, I thought this was off list.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Rico Jaeger <rijaeger@wausau.k12.wi.us>wr
ote:
>
>> Sorry to butt in here guys, but....can you tell me more about the
>> compressor failures??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>wrot
e:
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> I like that you're using the Phillips, I've seen compressor failures
>>> with those who were using Exxon.
>>>
>>> WIll get back to you.
>>>
>>> Ernie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Pete Fowler <pfdesign1@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > How did you arrive at the engine and airframe times? Do you have the
>>>> original Chinese Logs? What overhaul # is the engine on 1st 2nd or 3rd
?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The engine was purchased by Bob Watts (the previous owner) from Jim
>>>> Selby, it's believed to be first overhaul. It doesn't have original lo
gs
>>>> but Jim is familiar with the motor. The airframe hours are estimated b
ased
>>>> on a guess of 3500 hours in Chinese service. The plane has been in the
U.S.
>>>> since 1991 (it's one of the first 10) so the US logbooks cover the las
t 22
>>>> years. The engine that's on there now replaced a 1200 hour motor that
the
>>>> plane previously had that I believe Keith Harbor now has (he did the e
ngine
>>>> installation back in 2007 or so).
>>>>
>>>> The airframe hours were counted several different ways over it's life.
>>>> Eventually a hobbs meter was installed but given how much formation ti
me I
>>>> do and how much time we spend on the ground (getting 5 or 6 planes acr
oss
>>>> the airport and warmed up and ready to go takes time), I personally do
all
>>>> my maintenance based on tach hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Was the ADF wiring removed?=EF=BD
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of it is. The instrument panels and some of the cockpit has
>>>> original wiring but the chinese radios and ADFs are long gone. I have
the
>>>> original radio boxes in the cockpit, my plan was to someday gut them a
nd
>>>> hinge them and make them into storage bins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > What prompted the prop replacement?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was parked in the dirt/grass at All Red Star a couple of years ago
>>>> and got a pretty bad rock ding on one prop blade from a plane running
up in
>>>> front of me that ended up getting some intergranular corrosion so I
>>>> replaced the blades.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Any damage history?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not that I'm aware of. None that was ever recorded and if you do a
>>>> search for 4183E, there isn't any mention in the NTSB database (other
than
>>>> the original Piper that carried that N number before this plane had it
).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > What oil are you using?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phillips 25/60 and it has a 10 micron oil filter. I've been doing 50
>>>> hour oil changes with Blackstone oil analysis each time (which validat
es
>>>> the oil change interval). I used aeroshell 100 for a while but prefer
the
>>>> Phillips. I just did an oil change yesterday as well as the 25 hour ai
r
>>>> system service (dryer) and 50 hour greasing the landing gear.
>>>>
>>>> To quote Blackstone: "The typical interval we see is about 30 hours, s
o
>>>> it's great to
>>>> see nice and low metals in this sample after a longer oil change
>>>> interval."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Does it have schrader fittings?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chinese fittings on the gear legs, shrader on the main air tank. I hav
e
>>>> the valve and regulator for topping up the main air system that I can
>>>> include in the sale.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > What else is included in the sale?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has a full canopy cover, pitot cover and a few spare parts (some
>>>> gill shutters and miscellaneous stuff). Some spare rocker gaskets...st
uff
>>>> like that. Flying helmet and scuba tank are negotiable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410085#410085
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ==========
>>>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>>> ==========
>>>> MS -
>>>> k">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>> ==========
>>>> e -
>>>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
>>>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> ==========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List
>>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rico Jaeger
>> Choir / Wausau East High School
>>
>>
>>
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