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1. 10:23 AM - B&C alternator (Philip Nicholson)
2. 10:35 AM - Re: B&C alternator (jblake207@comcast.net)
3. 10:46 AM - Re: B&C alternator question (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
4. 11:37 AM - Re: B&C alternator (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 01:55 PM - Upper main gear pivot pin (Kelley Monroe)
6. 02:07 PM - Re: Upper main gear pivot pin (Terry Calloway)
7. 06:09 PM - B&C alternator conversion in Canada (Elmar & Manuela)
8. 10:11 PM - cj6 Fuel hoses (Jacquescj6)
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saw lots of discussion about fittings...
One question:
Apparently you save ~30lbs exchanging the old generator and accessories for
a 35 Amp alternator. 30lbs on a 3000lb aircraft (CJ) will according to
rough estimates, save you ~one percent on fuel costs. Math is not my
strong suit (not even close)... but assuming 500 hours flown at an all in
15 gph, you would have saved 75 gallons a year correct? at $5.00 a gallon,
that works out to $375. In two years, the unit has paid for itself - - not
too shabby. Any other reasons to make the change or is this something best
done upon generator failure?
Thanks,
Phil
(CJ6A - C-FEPN)
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| Subject: | Re: B&C alternator |
500 hours per year!=C2- Wow!
=C2-
I didn't change due to generator failure.=C2- In fact, I have a generator
or two for the CJ=C2-if anybody wants them.=C2- $50 bucks each, shippi
ng and a cold beer at our next meeting.=C2- I changed to the alternator b
ecause my solid state voltage regulator was inop.=C2- The cost of a new V
R was about $400 - $500 dollars and there was no warranty.=C2- In other w
ords, if it didn't work once installed, then "Sorry Charlie."=C2- Thus th
e decision to convert to the alternator.=C2- I've had mine for about 4 fo
urs and the only issue was a loose wire that was easily repaired.
Jon Blake
jblake207@comcast.net
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From: "Philip Nicholson" <pednicholson@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 12:23:01 PM
Subject: Yak-List: B&C alternator
saw lots of discussion about fittings...
=C2-
One question:
Apparently you save ~30lbs exchanging the old generator and accessories for
a 35 Amp alternator.=C2- 30lbs on a 3000lb aircraft (CJ) will according
to rough estimates, save you=C2-~one percent on fuel costs.=C2- Math is
not my strong suit (not even close)... but assuming 500 hours flown at an
all in 15 gph, you would have saved 75 gallons a year=C2-correct? at $5.0
0 a gallon, that works out to $375.=C2- In two years, the unit has paid f
or itself - - not too shabby. Any other reasons to make the change or is th
is something best done upon generator failure?
=C2-
Thanks,
Phil
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| Subject: | B&C alternator question |
That's all you need. However, you will be removing the generator, the over-voltage
control, the generator voltage regulator, and the Combined System Device
Relay (DMR-200). All of these parts can be sold.
You can wire the LS-1A to control your original generator light if you want...
.we can talk off line about that some time if you feel like it. Saves you from
mounting their alternator light, which is by the way, only a low voltage indicator,
but it still does what it is supposed to do.
It's not a hard install.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd McCutchan
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: Yak-List: B&C alternator question
Interesting. I had assumed that by choosing the M-14P and voltage regulator was
all you needed to replace the original generator on the M-14P. I have a Yak 50
it is going on.
What else do I need and where do I get it?
I have ordered the below already.
Alternator Controller/Regulator, 28v (Homebuilt)_1
LS-1A
Alternator for M14P, 35 Amps (Homebuilt)
SK35
Todd McCutchan
Fast Aircraft
T-34A & Yak-50
Cell - 260.402.1740
Email: todd@fastaircraft.com <mailto:todd@fastaircraft.com>
Skype: tmccutchan
Web: www.fastaircraft.com <http://www.fastaircraft.com/> & www.toddmccutchanairshows.com <http://www.toddmccutchanairshows.com/>
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: B&C alternator question
Elmar,
The 35 amp would be plenty for your use in the CJ. However understand that you
will need a M14P generator oil seal plate to complete the installation. If you
attempt to use the plate which is stock to your HS6A and has no oil seal, you
will in a few hours destroy the new alternator due to drowning it in oil.
I do not have the seal plates in stock at this time.
Best,
Doug
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Elmar & Manuela <samira.h@shaw.ca> wrote:
since quite some time I am looking into a reliable and approved alternator conversion
for the CJ.
Over the years I have read many postings on this forum regarding different alternators
and their manufacturers and it seems B&C is winning the race.
I guess many Nanchang owners like myself have removed all the obsolete original
radio and navigation equipment and hence there is no more need for high amp output
generation.
So which one would be the better respectively the more dependable solution, the
B&C SK35 (35amps) or the B&C
SK50 (50amps), any pros and cons?
Your opinion on this matter is greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
cheers
Elmar
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| Subject: | Re: B&C alternator |
I might suggest, dropping 30 pounds from the airplane, most on the nose,
does require a new weight and balance.....a REAL weight and balance. ie:
reweigh the airplane and calculate a new CG. Many people have added
weight to the tail after removing much of the old avionics from the CJ.
Now removing the old generator and VR will make the CG go even further aft.
The only reason I bring this up is because without knowing what the new
CG might beand then possibly putting a 200 lb+ person and baggage/stuff
in the back could very well put the airplane in an out of CG(aft) condition.
Dennis
A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263
334-546-8182 (mobile)
www.yak-52.com
Skype - Yakguy1
On 2/25/2014 12:23 PM, Philip Nicholson wrote:
> saw lots of discussion about fittings...
> One question:
> Apparently you save ~30lbs exchanging the old generator and
> accessories for a 35 Amp alternator. 30lbs on a 3000lb aircraft (CJ)
> will according to rough estimates, save you ~one percent on fuel
> costs. Math is not my strong suit (not even close)... but assuming
> 500 hours flown at an all in 15 gph, you would have saved 75 gallons a
> year correct? at $5.00 a gallon, that works out to $375. In two
> years, the unit has paid for itself - - not too shabby. Any other
> reasons to make the change or is this something best done upon
> generator failure?
> Thanks,
> Phil
> (CJ6A - C-FEPN)
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>
>
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| Subject: | Upper main gear pivot pin |
Has anyone done machining on the upper main gear pivot pin on a CJ? I
have a new one and it needs the center through hole machined for the
through bolt.
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| Subject: | Re: Upper main gear pivot pin |
Call Keith Harbour with Avcraft in Columbus, NE. They did mine when
they rebuilt the landing gear.
tc
Terry Calloway
terrycalloway@mac.com
620-875-9450
On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Kelley Monroe <kelmonroe@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Has anyone done machining on the upper main gear pivot pin on a CJ? I
have a new one and it needs the center through hole machined for the
through bolt.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | B&C alternator conversion in Canada |
Hi again,
I was wondering if anybody knows how
to get an alternator conversion approved
by Transport Canada?
Who do I have to contact?
What paperwork is required?
Do I need a LSTC?
How much would that whole
scenario be in total, is it worth
the cost and effort?
Thank you again.
cheers
Elmar
P.S.: So far I am pretty lucky with the generator
system on my CJ but it has no over-voltage
protection. What if the regulator goes TU
and the bus voltage rises to a point where it
fries expensive avionics?
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Hi I want to replace all my fuel hoses on my cj. any advise on type of hoses (size
and specifications) I should be using.?
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