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Wed 04/02/14


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD)
     2. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     3. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (Ernest Martinez)
     4. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (cjpilot710@aol.com)
     5. 10:41 PM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (Jim)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:39:32 AM PST US
    From: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil>
    Subject: Re: Magneto failure
    Yes, but does #1 meaning "Left" in that you are TESTING the left mag by turning it OFF, or that you are RUNNING on the left mag and it is actually on? Just trying to confuse the matter even further! :-) In fact double :-) :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure For me the #1 reminds me of an "L" and thus the Left mag and since the #2 is the Right mag that means it fires the Rear plugs. The 50 would have screw me up! :-) Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 4/1/2014 3:45:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jan.mevis@informavia.be writes: That is true, Mark. It was like that also on my Yak 50. I was changed years ago, because it was thought to be an error. The 50 system is more logical though because in that way, the mag switch points to the magneto. Now I'm used to it, so I'll leave it. For the PILOT it does not make much difference, but the mechanic unfamiliar with the Russian Yak 50 may be puzzled Jan On 01/04/14 21:23, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: ><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > >Just for info and not for Bruno..... but .... > >Mag 1 and 2 on the YAK-52 and the YAK-50 are reversed.... from the >factory. I.E. What is "1" on the YAK-52, is "2" on the YAK-50. > >Who'da thunk? :-) > >Mark > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis >Savarese >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:54 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure > >--> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > >Bruno, >Did you remove the 4 bolts that hold the mag front cover plate to the >mag? If you did not, please remove them and the mag distributor cap >along with the front cover plate and all the wires will lift completely >off the magneto. That will expose the rotor, points and high voltage >stick. > >Then check the high voltage stick. > >Normally, mag 1 is the left magneto (when sitting in the cockpit looking >at the engine) and mag 2 is the right mag. > >Dennis > > >A. Dennis Savarese >334-285-6263 >334-546-8182 (mobile) >www.yak-52.com >Skype - Yakguy1 > >On 4/1/2014 1:36 PM, airmanv2 wrote: >> --> <bruno.blanchard2@gmail.com> >> >> hello every body, >> here are the pictures from today. >> I ve checked the connector at the bottom and the back of the mag, i ve >>opened the cap but can't access to the rotor (wire to short) and i saw >>the ht stick but dont removed ... >> which one is the mag 1 ? the left or the right when you seat inside??? >> Best >> Bruno >> >> -------- >> Fly safe >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421465#421465 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5375_292.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5362_843.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p;


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    Time: 06:54:44 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magneto failure
    OK OK OK! Let me get this straight. #1 = L mag #2 = R mag. And when the switch is on #1, you turn off (o r grounded #2 = R mag) and if you have the switch on #2 =(R mag) you g rounded the #1 (L mag). That is unless you have a unmodified Yak50 then - - - - - - - :-\ Jim Pappy In a message dated 4/2/2014 3:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark.bitterlich@navy.mil writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Yes, but does #1 meaning "Left" in that you are TESTING the left mag by turning it OFF, or that you are RUNNING on the left mag and it is actually on? Just trying to confuse the matter even further! :-) In fact double :-) :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.c om Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure For me the #1 reminds me of an "L" and thus the Left mag and since the #2 is the Right mag that means it fires the Rear plugs. The 50 would have screw me up! :-) Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 4/1/2014 3:45:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jan.mevis@informavia.be writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: Jan Mevis <jan.mevis@informavia.be> That is true, Mark. It was like that also on my Yak 50. I was changed years ago, because it was thought to be an error. The 50 system is more logical though because in that way, the mag switch points to the magneto. Now I'm used to it, so I'll leave it. For the PILOT it does not make much difference, but the mechanic unfamiliar with the Russian Yak 50 may be puzzled=C5- Jan On 01/04/14 21:23, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: ><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > >Just for info and not for Bruno..... but .... > >Mag 1 and 2 on the YAK-52 and the YAK-50 are reversed.... from the >factory. I.E. What is "1" on the YAK-52, is "2" on the YAK-50. > >Who'da thunk? :-) > >Mark > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis >Savarese >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:54 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure > >--> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > >Bruno, >Did you remove the 4 bolts that hold the mag front cover plate to the >mag? If you did not, please remove them and the mag distributor cap >along with the front cover plate and all the wires will lift completely >off the magneto. That will expose the rotor, points and high voltage >stick. > >Then check the high voltage stick. > >Normally, mag 1 is the left magneto (when sitting in the cockpit looking >at the engine) and mag 2 is the right mag. > >Dennis > > >A. Dennis Savarese >334-285-6263 >334-546-8182 (mobile) >www.yak-52.com >Skype - Yakguy1 > >On 4/1/2014 1:36 PM, airmanv2 wrote: >> --> <bruno.blanchard2@gmail.com> >> >> hello every body, >> here are the pictures from today. >> I ve checked the connector at the bottom and the back of the mag, i ve >>opened the cap but can't access to the rotor (wire to short) and i saw >>the ht stick but dont removed ... >> which one is the mag 1 ? the left or the right when you seat inside??? >> Best >> Bruno >> >> -------- >> Fly safe >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421465#421465 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5375_292.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_5362_843.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p;


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    Time: 07:32:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magneto failure
    From: Ernest Martinez <erniel29@gmail.com>
    Hey Pappy, Did you notice that your plane is on the Sun&Fun 2014 poster. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, <cjpilot710@aol.com> wrote: > OK OK OK! Let me get this straight. > > #1 = L mag #2 = R mag. And when the switch is on #1, you turn off ( or > grounded #2 = R mag) and if you have the switch on #2 =(R mag) you > grounded the #1 (L mag). That is unless you have a unmodified Yak50 then - > - - - - - - > > :-\ > > Jim Pappy > > > In a message dated 4/2/2014 3:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mark.bitterlich@nav y.mil');>writes: > > mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > Yes, but does #1 meaning "Left" in that you are TESTING the left mag by > turning it OFF, or that you are RUNNING on the left mag and it is actuall y > on? > > Just trying to confuse the matter even further! :-) In fact double > :-) :-) > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:29 AM > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure > > For me the #1 reminds me of an "L" and thus the Left mag and since the # 2 > is the Right mag that means it fires the Rear plugs. The 50 would have > screw me up! :-) > > Jim "Pappy" Goolsby > > In a message dated 4/1/2014 3:45:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > jan.mevis@informavia.be writes: > e > > > > That is true, Mark. It was like that also on my Yak 50. > I was changed years ago, because it was thought to be an error. > The 50 system is more logical though because in that way, the mag > switch > points to the magneto. > Now I'm used to it, so I'll leave it. For the PILOT it does not > make much > difference, but the mechanic unfamiliar with the Russian Yak 50 > may be > puzzled=C5- > > Jan > > > On 01/04/14 21:23, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" > <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: > > WD" > ><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > > > >Just for info and not for Bruno..... but .... > > > >Mag 1 and 2 on the YAK-52 and the YAK-50 are reversed.... from t he > >factory. I.E. What is "1" on the YAK-52, is "2" on the YAK-50. > > > >Who'da thunk? :-) > > > >Mark > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. > Dennis > >Savarese > >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:54 PM > >To: yak-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure > > > >--> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > > > >Bruno, > >Did you remove the 4 bolts that hold the mag front cover plate t o > the > >mag? If you did not, please remove them and the mag distributor > cap > >along with the front cover plate and all the wires will lift > completely > >off the magneto. That will expose the rotor, points and high > voltage > >stick. > > > >Then check the high voltage stick. > > > >Normally, mag 1 is the left magneto (when sitting in the cockpit > looking > >at the engine) and mag 2 is the right mag. > > > >Dennis > > > > > >A. Dennis Savarese > >334-285-6263 > ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List > Contribution Web Site ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS > - List Contribution Web Site p; > > > * > =========== nics.com/Navigator?Yak-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > >


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    Time: 07:42:57 PM PST US
    From: cjpilot710@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Magneto failure
    Yes it was pointed out to me yesterday. Two bad its not there to bask in its glory of adoring vans. Right now her innards are spread over several hangar benches and her motor is in OK. Tomorrow I'm planning to head for S&F in my brother's - - - - wait for it - - - - Aeropoop. :-) (Anything that fly's babe! Anything that fly's) Pappy In a message dated 4/2/2014 10:33:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, erniel29@gmail.com writes: Hey Pappy, Did you notice that your plane is on the Sun&Fun 2014 poster. On Wednesday, April 2, 2014, <_cjpilot710@aol.com_ (mailto:cjpilot710@aol.com) > wrote: OK OK OK! Let me get this straight. #1 = L mag #2 = R mag. And when the switch is on #1, you turn off (o r grounded #2 = R mag) and if you have the switch on #2 =(R mag) you g rounded the #1 (L mag). That is unless you have a unmodified Yak50 then - - - - - - - :-\ Jim Pappy In a message dated 4/2/2014 3:52:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _mark.bitterlich@navy.mil_ (javascript:_e({},'cvml','mark.bitterlich@navy.m il');) writes: --> Yak-List message posted by: "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> Yes, but does #1 meaning "Left" in that you are TESTING the left mag by turning it OFF, or that you are RUNNING on the left mag and it is actually on? Just trying to confuse the matter even further! :-) In fact double :-) :-) Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjpilot710@aol.c om Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure For me the #1 reminds me of an "L" and thus the Left mag and since the #2 is the Right mag that means it fires the Rear plugs. The 50 would have screw me up! :-) Jim "Pappy" Goolsby In a message dated 4/1/2014 3:45:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jan.mevis@informavia.be writes: That is true, Mark. It was like that also on my Yak 50. I was changed years ago, because it was thought to be an error. The 50 system is more logical though because in that way, the mag switch points to the magneto. Now I'm used to it, so I'll leave it. For the PILOT it does not make much difference, but the mechanic unfamiliar with the Russian Yak 50 may be puzzled=C5- Jan On 01/04/14 21:23, "Bitterlich, Mark G CIV NAVAIR, WD" <mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> wrote: ><mark.bitterlich@navy.mil> > >Just for info and not for Bruno..... but .... > >Mag 1 and 2 on the YAK-52 and the YAK-50 are reversed.... from the >factory. I.E. What is "1" on the YAK-52, is "2" on the YAK-50. > >Who'da thunk? :-) > >Mark > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis >Savarese >Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:54 PM >To: yak-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Magneto failure > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" >--> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net> > >Bruno, >Did you remove the 4 bolts that hold the mag front cover plate to the >mag? If you did not, please remove them and the mag distributor cap >along with the front cover plate and all the wires will lift completely >off the magneto. That will expose the rotor, points and high voltage >stick. > >Then check the high voltage stick. > >Normally, mag 1 is the left magneto (when sitting in the cockpit looking >at the engine) and mag 2 is the right mag. > >Dennis > > >A. Dennis Savarese >334-285-6263 ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site ies ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site p; et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 10:41:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Magneto failure
    From: Jim <jim@jimivey.com>
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