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1. 02:11 AM - Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak (billygeipel)
2. 05:28 AM - Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak (WENDELL JAEGER)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak (LawnDart)
4. 11:11 AM - Fw: Funeral for WWII veteran (Byron Fox)
5. 11:33 AM - Re: Fw: Funeral for WWII veteran (Genzlinger, Reade)
6. 12:05 PM - Re: Fw: Funeral for WWII veteran (theDicePilot .)
7. 02:39 PM - Got this from my FB (cjpilot710@aol.com)
8. 02:57 PM - Re: Magneto failure (airmanv2)
9. 02:58 PM - Re: Magneto failure (airmanv2)
10. 06:26 PM - Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak (Michael B. Cavanagh)
11. 07:22 PM - Re: leaking air bottles (Frank Stelwagon)
12. 10:39 PM - Re: Re: Magneto failure (Jan Mevis)
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Subject: | Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak |
Can you send a copy of your Kevlar tank install?
Dawg
Sent from my iPad
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:26, "Michael B. Cavanagh" <mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've had both. First time it was the main bottle and it was leaking out the
fill port via the check valve on the firewall. Removed the check valve cleaned
and removed the old hard seal and replaced with a new O-ring and fixed that.
It's been good for 15 years since. Recently my Emergency tank also began to
not hold pressure. I noticed when removing the the pneumatic fill valve cover
on the side of the fuselage the tell tale pssst of air coming out. Normally there
should be no air escaping here. Since the Main tank was holding pressure just
fine, I knew the leak was coming from the emergency tank fill check valve
just beside the fill port. Follow the tubing back from your emergency tank to
the fill port and you will find the check valve. Very easy access from the rear
cockpit. I took mine apart, and cleaned it. It has a spring and a small
square piston with a donut shaped rubber seal on it's face. I soaked mine in
STP Oil Treatment for rejuvenating seals, for a day, p!
> ut it back together and it sealed up tight with no leak. In my case the Main
tank leak was from the firewall mounted main system fill, check valve, and the
Emergency tank was bleeding down through the emergency system fill check valve
on the left side of the fuselage behind the rear seat. I also changed out
my main system bottle with a 6000 psi kevlar wrapped aluminum O2 cylinder left
over from a trip up Everest. It has a shutoff valve at the tank and I no longer
suffer from a bled down main tank. Just DON'T forget to turn it, and the
Main system valve, ON before you get in the cockpit. Checklist, first item!
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak |
Mike,
Any chance of posting a pic of the Kevlar bottle installation? Sounds like a winner!
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Michael B. Cavanagh <<mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com>mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I've had both. First time it was the main bottle and it was leaking out the fill
port via the check valve on the firewall. Removed the check valve cleaned and
removed the old hard seal and replaced with a new O-ring and fixed that. It's
been good for 15 years since. Recently my Emergency tank also began to not hold
pressure. I noticed when removing the the pneumatic fill valve cover on the
side of the fuselage the tell tale pssst of air coming out. Normally there should
be no air escaping here. Since the Main tank was holding pressure just fine,
I knew the leak was coming from the emergency tank fill check valve just
beside the fill port. Follow the tubing back from your emergency tank to the fill
port and you will find the check valve. Very easy access from the rear cockpit.
I took mine apart, and cleaned it. It has a spring and a small square piston
with a donut shaped rubber seal on it's face. I soaked mine in STP Oil Treatment
for rejuvenating seals, for a day, p!
ut it back together and it sealed up tight with no leak. In my case the Main tank
leak was from the firewall mounted main system fill, check valve, and the Emergency
tank was bleeding down through the emergency system fill check valve
on the left side of the fuselage behind the rear seat. I also changed out my main
system bottle with a 6000 psi kevlar wrapped aluminum O2 cylinder left over
from a trip up Everest. It has a shutoff valve at the tank and I no longer suffer
from a bled down main tank. Just DON'T forget to turn it, and the Main system
valve, ON before you get in the cockpit. Checklist, first item!
--
Rico Jaeger
Choir / Wausau East High School
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Subject: | Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak |
In my experience, with a 52, an emergency bottle leak was one of the two emergency
gear valves in the front or rear cockpit. There is a square o-ring around
the t-fitting that deteriorates over time.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421768#421768
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Subject: | Fwd: Funeral for WWII veteran |
Gentleman,
Please read the email I received this morning from Barbara Sherlock about
you father, Charles Sauermelch, a WWII Central Fire Control Gunner aboard a
B-29. See http://39th.org/39th/aerial/61st/crew22a.html.
She would be immensely grateful if those of you in the Philadelphia area
could fly a Missing Man for her dad when the time comes in the near future.
Thanks, Blitz
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <barbarasherlock@verizon.net>
Subject: Funeral for WWII veteran
Dear Mr. Fox,
I was doing some research on the internet and came across the Bay Squadron
web page, and your contact information.
As I write you this note, my father is dying. His is still of complete
sound mind, but is ready to pass on as his body is now completely betraying
him at almost 89 years of age. My father is a WWII veteran. He was in the
Army Air Corps. If you Google Charles F. Sauermelch, it will direct you to
a web page for Crew 22, 61st Squadron, 39th Bomb Group. That's my dad! He
was a sergeant and a CFC Gunner. He loved airplanes then and still does to
this day.
When it became evident that it would soon be his time, he mentioned that
having a fly over at his burial "might be a nice way to go" (quote from
him). I realize the almost impossibility of this with the enormous cost
involved, but I thought I would check into anyway.
I know you are located in California. We are in Pennsylvania, and I was
just wondering if you have any contact information for anyone in the
Philadelphia area who does what you do out in California. I think it would
be such a great tribute to a man who did so much and asked for so little in
his lifetime. It would mean the world to my family.
Anyway, thank you for what you do to honor the veterans in your area, and I
appreciate any information that you could give me with regards to my
request.
Sincerely,
Barbara Sherlock
--
... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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Subject: | Fwd: Funeral for WWII veteran |
Hey Blitz -
We'll get this circulated to the Northeast Raiders and see what we can do-
Splinter.
Reade Genzlinger
Cairnwood Cooperative Corp.
215.914.0370
From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Fox
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 2:11 PM
Subject: Yak-List: Fwd: Funeral for WWII veteran
Gentleman,
Please read the email I received this morning from Barbara Sherlock about y
ou father, Charles Sauermelch, a WWII Central Fire Control Gunner aboard a
B-29. See http://39th.org/39th/aerial/61st/crew22a.html.
She would be immensely grateful if those of you in the Philadelphia area co
uld fly a Missing Man for her dad when the time comes in the near future.
Thanks, Blitz
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <barbarasherlock@verizon.net<mailto:barbarasherlock@verizon.net>>
Subject: Funeral for WWII veteran
Dear Mr. Fox,
I was doing some research on the internet and came across the Bay Squadron
web page, and your contact information.
As I write you this note, my father is dying. His is still of complete sou
nd mind, but is ready to pass on as his body is now completely betraying hi
m at almost 89 years of age. My father is a WWII veteran. He was in the A
rmy Air Corps. If you Google Charles F. Sauermelch, it will direct you to
a web page for Crew 22, 61st Squadron, 39th Bomb Group. That's my dad! He
was a sergeant and a CFC Gunner. He loved airplanes then and still does t
o this day.
When it became evident that it would soon be his time, he mentioned that ha
ving a fly over at his burial "might be a nice way to go" (quote from him).
I realize the almost impossibility of this with the enormous cost involved
, but I thought I would check into anyway.
I know you are located in California. We are in Pennsylvania, and I was ju
st wondering if you have any contact information for anyone in the Philadel
phia area who does what you do out in California. I think it would be such
a great tribute to a man who did so much and asked for so little in his li
fetime. It would mean the world to my family.
Anyway, thank you for what you do to honor the veterans in your area, and I
appreciate any information that you could give me with regards to my reque
st.
Sincerely,
Barbara Sherlock
--
... Blitz
Byron M. Fox
80 Milland Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Funeral for WWII veteran |
I will put this request up on the Red Star Pilots group on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/101328243243736/
Weeds
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Byron Fox <byronmfox@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gentleman,
>
> Please read the email I received this morning from Barbara Sherlock about
> you father, Charles Sauermelch, a WWII Central Fire Control Gunner aboard a
> B-29. See http://39th.org/39th/aerial/61st/crew22a.html.
>
> She would be immensely grateful if those of you in the Philadelphia area
> could fly a Missing Man for her dad when the time comes in the near future.
>
> Thanks, Blitz
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <barbarasherlock@verizon.net>
> Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:37 AM
> Subject: Funeral for WWII veteran
> To: byronmfox@gmail.com
>
>
> Dear Mr. Fox,
>
> I was doing some research on the internet and came across the Bay Squadron
> web page, and your contact information.
>
> As I write you this note, my father is dying. His is still of complete
> sound mind, but is ready to pass on as his body is now completely betraying
> him at almost 89 years of age. My father is a WWII veteran. He was in the
> Army Air Corps. If you Google Charles F. Sauermelch, it will direct you to
> a web page for Crew 22, 61st Squadron, 39th Bomb Group. That's my dad! He
> was a sergeant and a CFC Gunner. He loved airplanes then and still does to
> this day.
>
> When it became evident that it would soon be his time, he mentioned that
> having a fly over at his burial "might be a nice way to go" (quote from
> him). I realize the almost impossibility of this with the enormous cost
> involved, but I thought I would check into anyway.
>
> I know you are located in California. We are in Pennsylvania, and I was
> just wondering if you have any contact information for anyone in the
> Philadelphia area who does what you do out in California. I think it would
> be such a great tribute to a man who did so much and asked for so little in
> his lifetime. It would mean the world to my family.
>
> Anyway, thank you for what you do to honor the veterans in your area, and
> I appreciate any information that you could give me with regards to my
> request.
>
> Sincerely,
> Barbara Sherlock
>
>
> --
> ... Blitz
>
> Byron M. Fox
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Got this from my FB |
I got this from my FB but wanted to get to guys who may be able to give a
hand. We're getting a lot of request for fly overs as these guys pass on.
A couple weeks ago we were able to help down here in Florida for a Vet
who son had seen a YouTube piece of some our guys out in CA.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
WWII Vet fly over request in the Philadelphia area. Please read.
As I write you this note, my father is dying. His is still of complete
sound mind, but is ready to pass on as his body is now completely betraying
him at almost 89 years of age. My father is a WWII veteran. He was in the
Army Air Corps. If you Google Charles F. Sauermelch, it will direct you to a
web page for Crew 22, 61st Squadron, 39th Bomb
Group.http://39th.org/39th/aerial/61st/crew22a.html That's my dad! He was a sergeant and a CFC Gunner.
He loved airplanes then and still does to this day.
When it became evident that it would soon be his time, he mentioned that
having a fly over at his burial "might be a nice way to go" (quote from
him). I realize the almost impossibility of this with the enormous cost
involved, but I thought I would check into anyway.
I know you are located in California. We are in Pennsylvania, and I was
just wondering if you have any contact information for anyone in the
Philadelphia area who does what you do out in California. I think it would be
such
a great tribute to a man who did so much and asked for so little in his
lifetime. It would mean the world to my family.
Anyway, thank you for what you do to honor the veterans in your area, and
I appreciate any information that you could give me with regards to my
request.
Sincerely,
Barbara Sherlock
barbarasherlock@verizon.net>
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Subject: | Re: Magneto failure |
Hello,
Problem is solved:
the p-lead was out of order
the spring of the breaker was broken
the head of rotor lightly damaged.
All parts replaced by parts of M14 magnetos and all works perfectly ....
thanks to every body for help
now just needs spare parts ...
Bruno
--------
Fly safe
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421800#421800
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/pieces_remplacees_184.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Magneto failure |
Hello,
Problem is solved:
the p-lead was out of order
the spring of the breaker was broken
the head of rotor lightly damaged.
All parts replaced by parts of M14 magnetos and all works perfectly ....
thanks to every body for help
now just needs spare parts ...
Bruno
--------
Fly safe
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421801#421801
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/rupteur_hs_2_208.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/pieces_remplacees_184.jpg
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Subject: | Re: leaking main bottle and emergency bottle on Yak |
Sure, happy to share. Give me a day to take some pics.
On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:28 AM, WENDELL JAEGER <rijaeger@wausau.k12.wi.us>
wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Any chance of posting a pic of the Kevlar bottle installation? Sounds
like a winner!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Michael B. Cavanagh
<mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com> wrote:
<mikecavanagh1@hotmail.com>
>
> I've had both. First time it was the main bottle and it was leaking
out the fill port via the check valve on the firewall. Removed the
check valve cleaned and removed the old hard seal and replaced with a
new O-ring and fixed that. It's been good for 15 years since. Recently
my Emergency tank also began to not hold pressure. I noticed when
removing the the pneumatic fill valve cover on the side of the fuselage
the tell tale pssst of air coming out. Normally there should be no air
escaping here. Since the Main tank was holding pressure just fine, I
knew the leak was coming from the emergency tank fill check valve just
beside the fill port. Follow the tubing back from your emergency tank
to the fill port and you will find the check valve. Very easy access
from the rear cockpit. I took mine apart, and cleaned it. It has a
spring and a small square piston with a donut shaped rubber seal on it's
face. I soaked mine in STP Oil Treatment for rejuvenating seals, for a
day, p!
> ut it back together and it sealed up tight with no leak. In my case
the Main tank leak was from the firewall mounted main system fill,
check valve, and the Emergency tank was bleeding down through the
emergency system fill check valve on the left side of the fuselage
behind the rear seat. I also changed out my main system bottle with a
6000 psi kevlar wrapped aluminum O2 cylinder left over from a trip up
Everest. It has a shutoff valve at the tank and I no longer suffer from
a bled down main tank. Just DON'T forget to turn it, and the Main
system valve, ON before you get in the cockpit. Checklist, first item!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rico Jaeger
> Choir / Wausau East High School
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | RE: leaking air bottles |
Check out the Kevlar air bottles carefully. In the aerospace industry
they are life limited, they are usually a lighter bottle (thinner wall)
with the Kevlar wrapping for strength. They are sensitive to fill rate
(temperature rise) and number of fill cycles (stretch), but they are
lighter. A 6000 lb rated bottle may never pose a problem.
Frank
CJ6-A
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Subject: | Re: Magneto failure |
Breaker spring busted, that happens quite often.
Is the rotor damaged by that broken spring?
I think that you can get complete mag set repair kits, for instance at
White Waltham Russian Enineering (ask Genna, top mechanic!).
Jan
On 08/04/14 23:58, "airmanv2" <bruno.blanchard2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hello,
>Problem is solved:
>the p-lead was out of order
>the spring of the breaker was broken
>the head of rotor lightly damaged.
>
>All parts replaced by parts of M14 magnetos and all works perfectly ....
>thanks to every body for help
>now just needs spare parts ...
>Bruno
>
>--------
>Fly safe
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421801#421801
>
>
>Attachments:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/rupteur_hs_2_208.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/pieces_remplacees_184.jpg
>
>
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